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Are you serious? The reason for the variances is obvious, if you’ve read any of this thread. And it’s got nothing to do with Jano.

As for testing raws first, 5 sources on this board come to mind.

Are you serious? The reason for the variances is obvious, if you’ve read any of this thread. And it’s got nothing to do with Jano.

As for testing raws first, 5 sources on this board come to mind.
Nice try. We weren’t discussing sources “testing raws” but rather sources testing raws before brewing that are “ok”. In this context “ok” would mean they actually have inventory. Because that was my point
 
Who's shill are you? You joined in Dec and have only posted in this thread. Almost all the US dom vendors on this board test raws before brewing. The ones that don't, don't last long. They also have 3rd party testing that validates vendor results, the complete opposite of what's going on here.
You are twisting my words. I’m specifically talking about testing raws before brewing in this current market. And most sources are out of basic compounds.

I post in this thread because I started using this source. I started using this source because he had inventory at a reasonable price while others didn’t. And I don’t mean exotics. He fucking had test C…. That’s my point. Obviously we need testing. But we also need to consider these unique circumstances.
 
You are twisting my words. I’m specifically talking about testing raws before brewing in this current market. And most sources are out of basic compounds.

I post in this thread because I started using this source. I started using this source because he had inventory at a reasonable price while others didn’t. And I don’t mean exotics. He fucking had test C…. That’s my point. Obviously we need testing. But we also need to consider these unique circumstances.

Your circumstances are unique indeed. Most people do not wait till they run out to look for gear.

You needed gear in a pinch and this source has it. This does not change the fact that almost all the sources here test raws before brewing.

If you've seen the 3rd party test reports, you'll see that it's not in sync with what this vendor tests. What you get and what he tests are not the same. Similar identical vials, when sent for testing, with same batch numbers, also produce different results.

At this point if you're happy what with you purchased then I'd say it's a good purchase and to carry on. Enjoy.

Come to think of it, since 3rd party testing does not match, is there even any point in asking this vendor to test?

Did you test all your vials?
This is pretty much the quality you're getting here.
Most people here aren't interested in flipping a coin with every new vial opened.
 
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You are twisting my words. I’m specifically talking about testing raws before brewing in this current market. And most sources are out of basic compounds.

I post in this thread because I started using this source. I started using this source because he had inventory at a reasonable price while others didn’t. And I don’t mean exotics. He fucking had test C…. That’s my point. Obviously we need testing. But we also need to consider these unique circumstances.
You had read the forum etiquette instead of posting in this thread first you’d know what the forum is supposed to be. But at least now we know you are purely here to source and have no interest in harm reduction. The circumstances don’t change the need for testing. Sounds like people should plan better

 
Your circumstances are unique indeed. Most people do not wait till they run out to look for gear.

You needed gear in a pinch and this source has it. This does not change the fact that almost all the sources here test raws before brewing.

If you've seen the 3rd party test reports, you'll see that it's not in sync with what this vendor tests. What you get and what he tests are not the same. Similar identical vials, when sent for testing, with same batch numbers, also produce different results.

At this point if you're happy what with you purchased then I'd say it's a good purchase and to carry on. Enjoy.

Come to think of it, since 3rd party testing does not match, is there even any point in asking this vendor to test?

Did you test all your vials?
This is pretty much the quality you're getting here.
Most people here aren't interested in flipping a coin with every new vial opened.
 
You had read the forum etiquette instead of posting in this thread first you’d know what the forum is supposed to be. But at least now we know you are purely here to source and have no interest in harm reduction. The circumstances don’t change the need for testing. Sounds like people should plan better

And You can keep jerking yourself off responding to your own conversation
 
And You can keep jerking yourself off responding to your own conversation
 
Let this source die off and come back with another rebrand lmao. Only reason they're getting business is because they have stock for stuff other people don't (questionable and likely mislabeled stock lmao).

This is a harm reduction forum. If you're still defending them at this point you're part of the problem. ‍♂️
 
As far as variances within the same batch— I’d need a better understanding of Janos systems. But based on everything you said after that I’d guess —you can’t see the forest through the trees

You’re thinking in a vacuum. It’s not selling price - cost = profit. Time is the issue. Cash flow is the issue. Seizures are the issue. Availability… who’s testing raws before brewing? If true— There’s probably a characteristic that allows for this you’re not factoring

Essentially you’re thinking like my girlfriend. The only she’s heard me say for 10 years is “don’t work”
Just shut up. You're the clown on here advocating for untested, poorly dosed gear as long as you get it fast and cheap? Primal has shown he can test the raws and test the finished product before selling. When he does that, his gear is top notch. When he doesn't, the gear turns to unreliable crap.
 
@Primal_Pharma, don’t go silent on us. Talk to the room. Everyone can see what’s happening. Yeah, orders are still flying and cash is probably flowing, but let’s be honest, a big chunk of that looks like resellers or the newer TikTok crowd now that you’re trending.

A simple statement would go a long way. What happened, what’s being fixed, what isn’t. Not saying it’ll magically change community perception either, because a lot of promises were made and missed, and people remember that.

You probably won’t take advice from a bunch of handsome, well-pumped men on a forum like us, and that’s fine. But doing nothing usually makes things spiral faster. Silence rarely helps. Right now it feels like the longer this drags on, the worse it gets.
 
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@Primal_Pharma, don’t go silent on us. Talk to the room. Everyone can see what’s happening. Yeah, orders are still flying and cash is probably flowing, but let’s be honest, a big chunk of that looks like resellers or the newer TikTok crowd now that you’re trending.

A simple statement would go a long way. What happened, what’s being fixed, what isn’t. Not saying it’ll magically change community perception either, because a lot of promises were made and missed, and people remember that.

You probably won’t take advice from a bunch of handsome, well-pumped men on a forum like us, and that’s fine. But doing nothing usually makes things spiral faster. Silence rarely helps. Right now it feels like the longer this drags on, the worse it gets.
He was very active and responsive when GIFs and jokes were flying around. When bad tests whether it be GCMS, accuracy, etc started hitting this thread, he runs and hides. Shows some true character there.

Quite a handful of vendors here hold themselves to way higher standards and it’s actually paying off, who would of guessed lol

Can’t wait to see this garbage thread and source fall off, until the inevitable rebrand comes once again
 
He was very active and responsive when GIFs and jokes were flying around. When bad tests whether it be GCMS, accuracy, etc started hitting this thread, he runs and hides. Shows some true character there.

Quite a handful of vendors here hold themselves to way higher standards and it’s actually paying off, who would of guessed lol

Can’t wait to see this garbage thread and source fall off, until the inevitable rebrand comes once again
Yeah, that’s the pattern. When it’s memes and GIF wars he’s front row with popcorn. The second GCMS and “why is this dosed like a roulette wheel” shows up, suddenly it’s witness protection mode.

What blows my mind is how some of these guys keep stepping on the exact same rake. You already took L’s with 808, MuscleCandy, Axle etc, so you’d think the lesson is “tighten up and move smarter.” But nope, same mistakes, same excuses, same disappearing act.

For me he’s off my vendor list for now. It won’t change his life, but when a few more people do the same it turns into a snowball real quick. Anyway.

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I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.

(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.

(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.

(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.

(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.

(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.

(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.

(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)

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Just read about 2 other members getting infections from other sources on here.
I don’t care if everyone is with me or against me but this guys time ends here.
I made this point previously on another thread. As you start straying from the strict criteria we had in the past now people are getting infections and people are saying “Oh they should have filtered it. Everyone knows that.” And yet the source is stating that’s it’s clean and safe to just inject.

BUYER BEWAR!
 
Yeah, that’s the pattern. When it’s memes and GIF wars he’s front row with popcorn. The second GCMS and “why is this dosed like a roulette wheel” shows up, suddenly it’s witness protection mode.

What blows my mind is how some of these guys keep stepping on the exact same rake. You already took L’s with 808, MuscleCandy, Axle etc, so you’d think the lesson is “tighten up and move smarter.” But nope, same mistakes, same excuses, same disappearing act.

For me he’s off my vendor list for now. It won’t change his life, but when a few more people do the same it turns into a snowball real quick. Anyway.

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We already responded. Multiple times. The problem isn’t silence, it’s that people don’t follow the thread and keep recycling the same talking points like it’s new information.

We’re already moving to volumetric flasks. That decision was made, communicated, and is already being implemented. The emotional spiral afterward doesn’t change that. I don’t live in this thread because while people are arguing in circles, we’re actually working on the fixes everyone claims they want.

If you’re not confident in your vial, test it. Simple. If it comes back bad, we make it right like we always have. That hasn’t changed and won’t change. If this were a widespread issue, you’d be seeing it continuously across the board, not the same three people dragging up the same old examples while dozens of correct tests get ignored because they don’t fit the narrative.

And yes, that pattern is obvious. Memes and GIF wars get engagement. The second proper GCMS shows up and doesn’t support the outrage, it gets crickets. The few that miss get amplified, the many that hit get brushed aside. Everyone here can see that. Some of you confuse not performing for the forum with not doing anything at all. Big difference.

If someone wants to take us off their vendor list, that’s their call. Be my guest! We’re not here to convince spectators. We’re here to ship, test, fix what needs fixing, and move forward. The snowball people keep predicting hasn’t shown up yet, but the order volume has.

*insert fire Elmo gif here*
 
Just read about 2 other members getting infections from other sources on here.
I don’t care if everyone is with me or against me but this guys time ends here.
I made this point previously on another thread. As you start straying from the strict criteria we had in the past now people are getting infections and people are saying “Oh they should have filtered it. Everyone knows that.” And yet the source is stating that’s it’s clean and safe to just inject.

BUYER BEWAR!
post the links.
 
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