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[TRT]

We already responded. Multiple times. The problem isn’t silence, it’s that people don’t follow the thread and keep recycling the same talking points like it’s new information.

We’re already moving to volumetric flasks. That decision was made, communicated, and is already being implemented. The emotional spiral afterward doesn’t change that. I don’t live in this thread because while people are arguing in circles, we’re actually working on the fixes everyone claims they want.

If you’re not confident in your vial, test it. Simple. If it comes back bad, we make it right like we always have. That hasn’t changed and won’t change. If this were a widespread issue, you’d be seeing it continuously across the board, not the same three people dragging up the same old examples while dozens of correct tests get ignored because they don’t fit the narrative.

And yes, that pattern is obvious. Memes and GIF wars get engagement. The second proper GCMS shows up and doesn’t support the outrage, it gets crickets. The few that miss get amplified, the many that hit get brushed aside. Everyone here can see that. Some of you confuse not performing for the forum with not doing anything at all. Big difference.

If someone wants to take us off their vendor list, that’s their call. Be my guest! We’re not here to convince spectators. We’re here to ship, test, fix what needs fixing, and move forward. The snowball people keep predicting hasn’t shown up yet, but the order volume has.

*insert fire Elmo gif here*

Sure. Keep it up

 

[TRT]

post the links.

It’s the link to this thread. Or are talking about the infections people were getting? Last few pages of WWB.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

It’s the link to this thread. Or are talking about the infections people were getting? Last few pages of WWB.

He told you to post the links. The blatant sabotage is hilarious.

'Last few pages of WWB' - nice! You really made your point!

 

[TRT]

He told you to post the links. The blatant sabotage is hilarious.

'Last few pages of WWB' - nice! You really made your point!

There you go again. Talking about this sabotaging.
I don’t need to post a link when it’s right there on the last 2 pages. lol
I haven’t made my point yet but when I do you’ll be gone.

 

[TRT]

@Primal_Pharma you ever post those pics or share them in a secure area where they can be viewed like a member posted for you to or are we gonna lie about that too?

 

[ZaddyZonar]

We’re here to ship, test, fix what needs fixing, and move forward.

this is actually comical at this point, everything you claim to do or implement has been lies.

Your most recent GCMS from a 3rd party blind test that came back as China oils (busted once again) and you deflect. You’re just shooting shit out your mouth everytime you speak

 

[Dial It In]

We already responded. Multiple times. The problem isn’t silence, it’s that people don’t follow the thread and keep recycling the same talking points like it’s new information.

We’re already moving to volumetric flasks. That decision was made, communicated, and is already being implemented. The emotional spiral afterward doesn’t change that. I don’t live in this thread because while people are arguing in circles, we’re actually working on the fixes everyone claims they want.

If you’re not confident in your vial, test it. Simple. If it comes back bad, we make it right like we always have. That hasn’t changed and won’t change. If this were a widespread issue, you’d be seeing it continuously across the board, not the same three people dragging up the same old examples while dozens of correct tests get ignored because they don’t fit the narrative.

And yes, that pattern is obvious. Memes and GIF wars get engagement. The second proper GCMS shows up and doesn’t support the outrage, it gets crickets. The few that miss get amplified, the many that hit get brushed aside. Everyone here can see that. Some of you confuse not performing for the forum with not doing anything at all. Big difference.

If someone wants to take us off their vendor list, that’s their call. Be my guest! We’re not here to convince spectators. We’re here to ship, test, fix what needs fixing, and move forward. The snowball people keep predicting hasn’t shown up yet, but the order volume has.

*insert fire Elmo gif here*

So how did you get Test E in a Test P product? That shows some brewing process issues. For your oil why is the GCMS showing something different? All you have said is it can’t be true. So either the member is faking it or @janoshik is wrong is the conclusion? Just getting some clarity for folks. I got quite a bit of faith in Jano. Maybe if he isn’t busy he can clear it up and we can move along. Once it’s cleared up I’m done too. Like you the constant trying to keep up with the stories is exhausting. Nice if you get flask. We obviously aren’t ever going to get 100 raw testing and the concepts of batching locked down. Anyway, good luck

 

[Primal_Pharma]

So how did you get Test E in a Test P product? That shows some brewing process issues. For your oil why is the GCMS showing something different? All you have said is it can’t be true. So either the member is faking it or @janoshik is wrong is the conclusion? Just getting some clarity for folks. I got quite a bit of faith in Jano. Maybe if he isn’t busy he can clear it up and we can move along. Once it’s cleared up I’m done too. Like you the constant trying to keep up with the stories is exhausting. Nice if you get flask. We obviously aren’t ever going to get 100 raw testing and the concepts of batching locked down. Anyway, good luck

Like I said, you guys can't even follow the thread. It was a 'trace' amount of E in Test U. Months ago from before upgrading our bottle dispensers... and about the GCMS' - I will be sending in the same compounds in for GCMS. Regardless, you guys always think we're lying but I am going to post it anyway. I am pretty sure people were having issues viewing that GCMS at first so this time I am certain that either Jano sent the wrong report (wouldn't be the first time either) or something happened because using CN oils is literally, physically and even accidentally possible.

@Primal_Pharma you ever post those pics or share them in a secure area where they can be viewed like a member posted for you to or are we gonna lie about that too?

Those were already posted. Again, can't even follow the thread but continue with this BS. I think its very evident at this point.

 

[Dial It In]

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Like I said, you guys can't even follow the thread. It was a 'trace' amount of E in Test U. Months ago from before upgrading our bottle dispensers... and about the GCMS' - I will be sending in the same compounds in for GCMS. Regardless, you guys always think we're lying but I am going to post it anyway. I am pretty sure people were having issues viewing that GCMS at first so this time I am certain that either Jano sent the wrong report (wouldn't be the first time either) or something happened because using CN oils is literally, physically and even accidentally possible.

Those were already posted. Again, can't even follow the thread but continue with this BS. I think it’s very evident at this point.

Got it so @janoshik is making mistakes again. Understood.

Pics I will give you credit were sent. I even mentioned that in another post that you did follow through. Thus why I let that go. But understand this if you can. When you catch someone lying don’t you agree it takes some time and consistent commitments and results to overcome that? Some of us hold on longer than others I suppose. I have also said I’ll be the first to say good job once the consistency shows and I 100 percent will do so. But maybe my pat on the back means nothing. I’ve got no clout in here and I’m just some random internet guy

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Got

Got it so @janoshik is making mistakes again. Understood.

Pics I will give you credit were sent. I even mentioned that in another post that you did follow through. Thus why I let that go. But understand this if you can. When you catch someone lying don’t you agree it takes some time and consistent commitments and results to overcome that? Some of us hold on longer than others I suppose. I have also said I’ll be the first to say good job once the consistency shows and I 100 percent will do so. But maybe my pat on the back means nothing. I’ve got no clout in here and I’m just some random internet guy

I hear you and I agree with what you’re saying. I've definitely been all over the place at times but that's what happens when you try and please everyone. Definitely not the move...

What I can’t get past though is the CN oil claim. It makes absolutely zero sense. I’ve shown the MCT oil we use, it’s literally impossible for that to happen, even accidentally. That part is just not grounded in reality.

I’ll also own that I’ve been all over the place sometimes. Being upfront is the better move, always. Trying to please everyone isn’t. But I’m not going to accept accusations that are flat out impossible.

 

[Dial It In]

I hear you and I agree with what you’re saying. I've definitely been all over the place at times but that's what happens when you try and please everyone. Definitely not the move...

What I can’t get past though is the CN oil claim. It makes absolutely zero sense. I’ve shown the MCT oil we use, it’s literally impossible for that to happen, even accidentally. That part is just not grounded in reality.

I’ll also own that I’ve been all over the place sometimes. Being upfront is the better move, always. Trying to please everyone isn’t. But I’m not going to accept accusations that are flat out impossible.

Agreed. Stand your ground same as others til data shows otherwise. I’ll wait for answers same as you.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Agreed. Stand your ground same as others til data shows otherwise. I’ll wait for answers same as you.

ANOTHER thing I just realized (and I am not yelling at you) but why the HELL would I get NovaPure stoppers and put them on relabeled CN oils. WHY

 

[ZaddyZonar]

ANOTHER thing I just realized (and I am not yelling at you) but why the HELL would I get NovaPure stoppers and put them on relabeled CN oils. WHY

Probably the same reason you did with the China primo. Put your own stoppers, vials, labels etc. yet here we are.

You’ve got a lot to do to gain anyone’s trust back.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Probably the same reason you did with the China primo. Put your own stoppers, vials, labels etc. yet here we are.

You’ve got a lot to do to gain anyone’s trust back.

You say that and I do agree with you somewhat, but trust me when I tell you brother, you are the minority.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

You say that and I do agree with you somewhat, but trust me when I tell you brother, you are the minority.

Accountability is tough, I know. I’ve given praise in this thread before, I’ve made purchases like many others, but damn was that a mistake once more testing came back and shown how shady you are and the amount of lies you spit.

Minority or not, you won’t be lasting much longer going the way you are.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.

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Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Saturday at 12:05 PM

primals test undecanoate, pretty consistent....

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(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Dec 14, 2025

Was the recent primo underdosed?

There seem to be a great number of people commenting here lately that haven't bothered to get caught up on the series of events that lead to the mistrust many have right now with Primal. Here's a brief breakdown of the events

Primal lied about this Primo's origins not once, but twice. First, it was made from raws they got in that they paid a lot for, and they were "too excited to get it (the raws) tested" and brewed it immediately. Then, days later, they "came clean" and said it was left over primo raws they found while looking through their...

• AllGoodThings

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(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Dec 11, 2025

FYI - I’ve sent in samples from 3 different vials of TC250 P10 (early-September), to put to rest any doubts that my initial test that came in at 220mg was not a one-off, as originally suggested by Primal. Jano has them and I suspect I will have results in a day or two. I am also guessing they’ll all come in around 220.

Here are the combined results for the 4 different TC250 P10 (early-September) samples:

Full 10ml vial: 220.93 mg/ml
Sample A: 231.73 mg/ml
Sample B: 224.32 mg/ml
Sample C: 220.62 mg/ml

Average: 224.4 mg/ml

Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical...

• crispybacon!

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(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

Mast P200 -> 153mg/ml
P11

Janoshik Analytical

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(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

TRE400
Batch 001

Janoshik Analytical

TRE400
Batch P11

Janoshik Analytical

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(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

TC50
62mg/ml
Sep -> Janoshik Analytical
Nov -> Janoshik Analytical

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(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Dec 1, 2025

Adrol50-> ~30mg/ml
First batch

Janoshik Analytical

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(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Jan 7, 2026

Never sent it. Will send it once I am back from travels

So you sent it..waited for results..then apparently did not send it and now have a new batch you are sending out?

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This won’t get buried

 

[TRT]

@Primal_Pharma
I just started reading from page 560 all the way to 615 and the issues that were brought up you just ran around. Honestly, amount of things that need to be address at this point are insane.
Members popping up that are new with maybe 100-200 posts and been around since September of last year is staggering. Even Guest accounts coming on to defend you when Veteran members are stating perfectly legitimate issues.
@SwolieGuacamole
@MisterT

I’m still reading but even early in those pages other members were asking about other stuff that you once again ignored by flooding it with your shills.

 

[TRT]

@Photon

I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

@Photon

I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.

This is about Test U from months ago that we don’t even run anymore, before we upgraded our equipment. You keep recycling the same tired point like it’s new information. Again, if this were actually a widespread issue, you wouldn’t need to repeat yourself nonstop to make it sound relevant.

You remind me of that kid who reminds the teacher to collect homework, desperate to feel important. I do appreciate the publicity though. Thank you.

 

[Magenzus]

Has anyones used primals reta?

Ive been running it for two weeks. Def reta.