MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[riggspersonal]

This is about Test U from months ago that we don’t even run anymore, before we upgraded our equipment. You keep recycling the same tired point like it’s new information. Again, if this were actually a widespread issue, you wouldn’t need to repeat yourself nonstop to make it sound relevant.

You remind me of that kid who reminds the teacher to collect homework, desperate to feel important. I do appreciate the publicity though. Thank you.

This isn't a rough patch. You are a public health hazard.

I see you whining that the "noise is getting to you" and that you're tired of the "same five people" holding you accountable. Let’s be crystal clear: You don't have "haters." You have victims. Primal isn’t a source; it’s a liability.

If a licensed pharmacist operated the way you do—selling counterfeit drugs, mislabeling dosages, and contaminating medicine with industrial waste—they wouldn't just lose their license. They would be in handcuffs facing criminal negligence charges.

Let’s look at your "resume" of incompetence:

• The Plastic Smoothie: You literally dissolved your own brewing equipment into the TRE 400 and injected it into your customers. That isn’t a "brewing mistake." That is a failure of basic intelligence. You were too incompetent to know your solvents would melt your tools.
• The Great Primo Fraud: You claimed to brew from raws, looked this community in the face, and lied while flipping cheap Chinese re-labels at a domestic markup. That’s not a slip-up; that is a scam.
• Dosage Roulette:
  • Mast P: Underdosed at 153mg/ml (25% weak).
  • Adrol: Underdosed at ~30mg (40% weak).
  • Female Test C: You overdosed a hormone product for women by nearly 25% (62mg/ml). In the medical world, that is malpractice.
    

These actions are indefensible.

You seem to think you deserve a "second chance" to "learn from your mistakes". Let me stop you there. You get a second chance for a shipping delay. You get a second chance for a crashed vial. You do not get a second chance for fraud and poisoning people.

Trust in this game is binary. It’s a 1 or a 0. The moment you decided to lie about your Primo sourcing , you hit 0. The moment you dissolved plastic into a batch and shipped it, you proved you are too dangerous to operate a microwave, let alone a lab.

Stop telling us you’re going "private" to avoid the noise. You aren't being bullied; you are being exposed. Do the only responsible thing left: pack up your melted plastic lab, refund the people you scammed, and disappear forever.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

This isn't a rough patch. You are a public health hazard.

I see you whining that the "noise is getting to you" and that you're tired of the "same five people" holding you accountable. Let’s be crystal clear: You don't have "haters." You have victims. Primal isn’t a source; it’s a liability.

If a licensed pharmacist operated the way you do—selling counterfeit drugs, mislabeling dosages, and contaminating medicine with industrial waste—they wouldn't just lose their license. They would be in handcuffs facing criminal negligence charges.

Let’s look at your "resume" of incompetence:

• The Plastic Smoothie: You literally dissolved your own brewing equipment into the TRE 400 and injected it into your customers. That isn’t a "brewing mistake." That is a failure of basic intelligence. You were too incompetent to know your solvents would melt your tools.
• The Great Primo Fraud: You claimed to brew from raws, looked this community in the face, and lied while flipping cheap Chinese re-labels at a domestic markup. That’s not a slip-up; that is a scam.
• Dosage Roulette:
  • Mast P: Underdosed at 153mg/ml (25% weak).
  • Adrol: Underdosed at ~30mg (40% weak).
  • Female Test C: You overdosed a hormone product for women by nearly 25% (62mg/ml). In the medical world, that is malpractice.

These actions are indefensible.

You seem to think you deserve a "second chance" to "learn from your mistakes". Let me stop you there. You get a second chance for a shipping delay. You get a second chance for a crashed vial. You do not get a second chance for fraud and poisoning people.

Trust in this game is binary. It’s a 1 or a 0. The moment you decided to lie about your Primo sourcing , you hit 0. The moment you dissolved plastic into a batch and shipped it, you proved you are too dangerous to operate a microwave, let alone a lab.

Stop telling us you’re going "private" to avoid the noise. You aren't being bullied; you are being exposed. Do the only responsible thing left: pack up your melted plastic lab, refund the people you scammed, and disappear forever.

If you’re going to use ChatGPT, at least take the bullet points out. This is painfully obvious and honestly pathetic.

Half of this rant is about things from months ago that we’ve already addressed, corrected, and moved on from. The ‘plastic experiment’ was laughable, which is exactly why we don’t run Tren E400 anymore and upgraded equipment after it. Primo? We owned it, publicly. Keep bringing it up if it makes you feel productive, but it’s not new information.

Anadrol underdose was made right. Female Test C testing is posted, and the dosage is exactly what the lab report shows. Again… months ago.

What’s actually wild is the amount of time you’ve put into rehearsing this dramatic monologue. This isn’t ‘exposing’ anything. It’s a recycled, AI-written rant from someone with too much free time and nothing at stake. If this is what accountability looks like to you, you might want to log off and find something more productive to do brother

 

[The Answ3r]

We already responded. Multiple times. The problem isn’t silence, it’s that people don’t follow the thread and keep recycling the same talking points like it’s new information.

We’re already moving to volumetric flasks. That decision was made, communicated, and is already being implemented. The emotional spiral afterward doesn’t change that. I don’t live in this thread because while people are arguing in circles, we’re actually working on the fixes everyone claims they want.

If you’re not confident in your vial, test it. Simple. If it comes back bad, we make it right like we always have. That hasn’t changed and won’t change. If this were a widespread issue, you’d be seeing it continuously across the board, not the same three people dragging up the same old examples while dozens of correct tests get ignored because they don’t fit the narrative.

And yes, that pattern is obvious. Memes and GIF wars get engagement. The second proper GCMS shows up and doesn’t support the outrage, it gets crickets. The few that miss get amplified, the many that hit get brushed aside. Everyone here can see that. Some of you confuse not performing for the forum with not doing anything at all. Big difference.

If someone wants to take us off their vendor list, that’s their call. Be my guest! We’re not here to convince spectators. We’re here to ship, test, fix what needs fixing, and move forward. The snowball people keep predicting hasn’t shown up yet, but the order volume has.

*insert fire Elmo gif here*

Let’s start with this. Why am I expected to test vials in the first place? You came in presenting yourself as the “next big thing,” talking about raising standards and doing things the right way. From a customer’s perspective, testing is supposed to be your responsibility, not something pushed onto the end user as a baseline expectation.

I’m saying this as someone who has placed multiple orders with you, not a random spectator. I’ve supported you from early on because I liked how confidently you entered the space. I currently have a significant amount of your Mast E, Test C, Tren E, EQ, Anavar, and Primo from the newer batch. So reading “don’t like it, test it yourself” doesn’t sit well, especially coming from a vendor positioning himself as premium and detail-oriented.

Not every question or concern is an attack or part of some coordinated narrative. Not everyone is trying to sink you. If you look at my posting history in your thread, I’ve been supportive from day one. I want you and other vendors here to succeed, because competition and accountability are what give this forum real value and real choice.

If my expectations or concerns aren’t important to you, that’s your call. But from the outside, that stance feels unnecessary and counterproductive. I genuinely hope you reconsider how you engage with people who aren’t hostile and don’t wish you any failure.

Either way, I wish you success in your business.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Let’s start with this. Why am I expected to test vials in the first place? You came in presenting yourself as the “next big thing,” talking about raising standards and doing things the right way. From a customer’s perspective, testing is supposed to be your responsibility, not something pushed onto the end user as a baseline expectation.

I’m saying this as someone who has placed multiple orders with you, not a random spectator. I’ve supported you from early on because I liked how confidently you entered the space. I currently have a significant amount of your Mast E, Test C, Tren E, EQ, Anavar, and Primo from the newer batch. So reading “don’t like it, test it yourself” doesn’t sit well, especially coming from a vendor positioning himself as premium and detail-oriented.

Not every question or concern is an attack or part of some coordinated narrative. Not everyone is trying to sink you. If you look at my posting history in your thread, I’ve been supportive from day one. I want you and other vendors here to succeed, because competition and accountability are what give this forum real value and real choice.

If my expectations or concerns aren’t important to you, that’s your call. But from the outside, that stance feels unnecessary and counterproductive. I genuinely hope you reconsider how you engage with people who aren’t hostile and don’t wish you any failure.

Either way, I wish you success in your business.

You’re right that testing should be on us, especially given how we positioned ourselves early on, and I understand why that comment didn’t sit well coming from a “premium” angle.

I also agree that not every question or concern is an attack. In your case especially, your history has been supportive, and I don’t take that lightly. The frustration on our end comes from a lot of blatant, bad-faith attacks that get lumped in with legitimate feedback, and sometimes the line gets blurred. That part has been overblown, and I can acknowledge that.

I appreciate you being direct and constructive, and I genuinely value customers who want accountability because that’s how standards actually improve. Wishing us success means more than you probably realize, and it’s noted.

 

[monster8912]

Anyyyywho we got an estimate on Mast P coming back anytime soon?

 

[Dial It In]

You’re right that testing should be on us, especially given how we positioned ourselves early on, and I understand why that comment didn’t sit well coming from a “premium” angle.

I also agree that not every question or concern is an attack. In your case especially, your history has been supportive, and I don’t take that lightly. The frustration on our end comes from a lot of blatant, bad-faith attacks that get lumped in with legitimate feedback, and sometimes the line gets blurred. That part has been overblown, and I can acknowledge that.

I appreciate you being direct and constructive, and I genuinely value customers who want accountability because that’s how standards actually improve. Wishing us success means more than you probably realize, and it’s noted.

I used to be a customer too and supported at launch. I also, like you, have communications with customers (not in Meso) but other groups we are in that bought from you as well that stepped away. So, I’m not someone who didn’t buy from you but had to step away. So you’ve lost more sales than you realize but you are probably good to go and it’s may be drop in a bucket. So I’m not throwing blind accusations and have been vested. I just want the consistency, tested raws that allow you to brew accurate because you know the purity and just the truth even if it sucks. GCMS all final brews on every thing and then the blinds can’t be questioned no matter how old the batch is. And read up on batching. Not trying to insult you but your concept of batching is skewed and that is my wheelhouses. That’s all and I don’t think it’s that hard when others do it. You shouldn’t sacrifice quality and face accusations because people can’t plan cycles or want to resell. I mean hell one of the biggest volume sources on this board is closed but they will get flooded soon as it’s go time. I do get unhinged sometimes so dint take it personal I’m old.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Anyyyywho we got an estimate on Mast P coming back anytime soon?

Got a bit delayed but hoping Mast P and Mast E are available early Feb.

 

[TRT]

This is about Test U from months ago that we don’t even run anymore, before we upgraded our equipment. You keep recycling the same tired point like it’s new information. Again, if this were actually a widespread issue, you wouldn’t need to repeat yourself nonstop to make it sound relevant.

You remind me of that kid who reminds the teacher to collect homework, desperate to feel important. I do appreciate the publicity though. Thank you.

Well, it certainly not good publicity but you can keep pretending it is. It doesn’t matter that their old issues it’s the fact that you continue to have issues.

 

[TRT]

Got a bit delayed but hoping Mast P and Mast E are available early Feb.

Along with pics of your set up you said was gonna be done this month?

 

[desertwarrior]

@TRT good to see you brother.

@Primal_Pharma you gotta stop lying. You suck at this shit. POST LAB PHOTOS!!! No more circling around it. Post your autoclave, v mixer, and all other lab equipment. We don’t want to see raws and I’m sure you realize that.

Stop playing stupid. Explain how two vials from the same batch of test came back so different. How is that possible? How do vegetable oil components end up in products you make? Is it a competitors black magic at work? MESO member sabotage? Incompetence? You tell us.

I looked at 40 or more sources this morning. Literally none of them had matching product lists, the same exact products out of stock, matching vial hardware, shipping origin, amongst all those other labs the similarities were very few if any. I think its absolutely laughable we’re expected to believe you and muscle candy coincidentally have the same product lists, exact same products out of stock and when you came out the gate here you were still using the muscle candy flip tops on vials, clear vegan capsules, literally identical in every way.

 

[desertwarrior]

G

Thread 'MUSCLE CANDY LAB EXPOSED!! RATS'

Apr 29, 2025

EDIT: Doxxing is prohibited.

XXXXXXX is a DEA rat do not sell him products or Raws to this man or this company he is buying Raws off of these sites and ratting to the DEA to get his case dropped in Houston Texas Harris County for being busted with gear. He is facing 10 to 99 years. He's trying to cancel out his competition. This community must be protected at all cost. This is public information if you do not believe me research it yourself.

• Ghosttexas234
• Replies: 98
• Forum: Steroid Underground

Worth a read. A lot of useful information buried in there.

 

[MrTexas2]

Shit I was just about to recommend this source to an online client I am training....to be clear, the desolved equipment issue did not affect the test cyp. The only problem with the test cyp is it was a bit under dosed.

Shots are clean and pipless, yes?

 

[LayPave]

We already responded. Multiple times. The problem isn’t silence, it’s that people don’t follow the thread and keep recycling the same talking points like it’s new information.

We’re already moving to volumetric flasks. That decision was made, communicated, and is already being implemented. The emotional spiral afterward doesn’t change that. I don’t live in this thread because while people are arguing in circles, we’re actually working on the fixes everyone claims they want.

If you’re not confident in your vial, test it. Simple. If it comes back bad, we make it right like we always have. That hasn’t changed and won’t change. If this were a widespread issue, you’d be seeing it continuously across the board, not the same three people dragging up the same old examples while dozens of correct tests get ignored because they don’t fit the narrative.

And yes, that pattern is obvious. Memes and GIF wars get engagement. The second proper GCMS shows up and doesn’t support the outrage, it gets crickets. The few that miss get amplified, the many that hit get brushed aside. Everyone here can see that. Some of you confuse not performing for the forum with not doing anything at all. Big difference.

If someone wants to take us off their vendor list, that’s their call. Be my guest! We’re not here to convince spectators. We’re here to ship, test, fix what needs fixing, and move forward. The snowball people keep predicting hasn’t shown up yet, but the order volume has.

*insert fire Elmo gif here*

You say "we're are working on the fixes everyone claims they want" so.......re-read that and let it sink in for a minute, i did and it comes off as it being a hastle to fix things that are not up to par. One would think you yourself would not want to get better as a source but will because some of your customers "claim" they want to see you improve.

I have been ordering from your start, the beginning was great. I can honestly forgive the cn primo debacle but the variance of doseage it really concerning.

I hope to see a change and i hope you want it as much as this fourm and your current and past customers do.

And stop Gaslighting

 

[TRT]

@TRT good to see you brother.

@Primal_Pharma you gotta stop lying. You suck at this shit. POST LAB PHOTOS!!! No more circling around it. Post your autoclave, v mixer, and all other lab equipment. We don’t want to see raws and I’m sure you realize that.

Stop playing stupid. Explain how two vials from the same batch of test came back so different. How is that possible? How do vegetable oil components end up in products you make? Is it a competitors black magic at work? MESO member sabotage? Incompetence? You tell us.

I looked at 40 or more sources this morning. Literally none of them had matching product lists, the same exact products out of stock, matching vial hardware, shipping origin, amongst all those other labs the similarities were very few if any. I think its absolutely laughable we’re expected to believe you and muscle candy coincidentally have the same product lists, exact same products out of stock and when you came out the gate here you were still using the muscle candy flip tops on vials, clear vegan capsules, literally identical in every way.

Get em! Get em! lol

 

[desertwarrior]

I may be skirting the line on doxxing here. But if you google the name in that trellis report plus the location of origin for primals packs, you will see this individual lives a couple minutes from the post office primal ships from. Probably just another coincidence though.

 

[TRT]

Shit I was just about to recommend this source to an online client I am training....to be clear, the desolved equipment issue did not affect the test cyp. The only problem with the test cyp is it was a bit under dosed.

Shots are clean and pipless, yes?

Don’t do that.

 

[monster8912]

Shit I was just about to recommend this source to an online client I am training....to be clear, the desolved equipment issue did not affect the test cyp. The only problem with the test cyp is it was a bit under dosed.

Shots are clean and pipless, yes?

The latest test c is solid, and no pip for me.

 

[Athleticfreak]

@Primal_Pharma just go private. You’re never going to overcome this.

If members want to be on your private list let em, if not then that’s that.