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[BigDadd7]

I’m noticing if I use anything over 22g my topper leaks. I had to draw with 16g to prevent spilling.

Try not side loading the needle while drawing.

 

[Tk1000]

Post in thread 'Transferring oils for long term storage'

Aug 30, 2025

Got any 21g needles?
I personally use 22g for transferring.

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The impact of needle size and angle on rubber coring after multiple puncturing of multi-dose propofol vial rubber stoppers - PMC

Multiple puncturing of the rubber stoppers of multi-doses vials can produce a rubber core. Propofol is one of the multi-dose anesthesia frequently used for sedation and induction of general anesthesia, and a previous study reported a high incidence ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

• Photon

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With all the coring talk here is a study posted by photon. Based on this study of multi dose vials with rubber stoppers at different draw angles the largest needle to be used is 21g at 45 degree angle to draw unless filtering. 22g would likely be even better. If the stopper is degraded at all then for sure filter.

 

[Trenmademedoit]

If you trust a source in conditions you can’t verify and feel like they are doing everything correct at a high sales volume then sure don’t filter. Are they changing their filters like they should? Are they cleaning flask and tubing? Do they have the correct sterile environment and flow hood? Have I pinned gear not filtered? Sure. Do I filter it now regardless the vendor for my own self protection? Yes. It only takes one oopsie from a source to result in you getting a chunk cut out of your quad. It’s your decision brother. It’s relatively inexpensive. Get the setup to do it and practice with some oil from a store so you get an idea and the hang of it before you attempt on a bottle you purchased. I practiced on old bottles of things I used before I ever got going with my good stuff. I’m an old head but guaranteed one or someone will tell some story about back in the day. Yeah I remember back in the day too but why can’t we progress and be smarter.

I am definitely looking into this! Thank you! I’ve never thought of doing this as I didn’t know it was a thing.

 

[Ateam2023]

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I am definitely looking into this! Thank you! I’ve never thought of doing this as I didn’t know it was a thing.

ou can get 22um sterile syringe filters from Peky bio off amazon for decent prices

 

[Gatman]

Neo’s gonna find you and beat you up lol he’s anal about his security

lol…I am completely satisfied with his product….no complaints here

 

[GDJ]

The only explanation I can offer is that the Primo CN oils were labeled P11, as I’ve stated multiple times. It’s possible a P12 was mislabeled, but I don’t have a definitive answer. We were very strict about maintaining a clear distinction between CN Primo and Primal Primo.

A clear distinction? Your best guess is admitting that your processes are sloppy enough to allow for mislabeling.

Which also doesn’t make sense in any reasonable way. You just happened to have an old, unlabeled vial of something that sold out immediately that just happened to be mislabeled with the label for the new batch? And that particular vial got selected for testing and sent to Jano?

This is about as believable as your lie about finding primo raws in your warehouse on the CN batch.

How do you expect your customers to trust your products? What if a vial of Tren E 400 is mislabeled as Test C 250? You can’t say it’s impossible, can you?

I will not be buying any more of your product. Lesson learned.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

So you had to have surgery after pinning this gear, but 3 free vials and you’re good to go?

How’d the surgery go, by the way??

So he got more cyp of the same batch that caused him loss of limb? Thats one way to get free gear i guess....

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I wouldn’t say good to go but I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt probably look into filtering my own oils as well. Thanks for asking brother they had to lance it open and drain everything out on antibiotics now. Incant stand surgery but had to do it!

Please post discharge instructions....

 

[Tore22]

Please post discharge instructions....

Illl let everyone know how it goes I go to my urologist tomorrow so I’ll probably have to swuth to a cream or an oral for my trt any advice on which method is better? Thank you

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I’m a newbie that has learned from trial and error the last 5 yrs….started with 18g to withdraw and 22g to inject

So far had success using 21g to withdraw and 25g to inject…..(had coring using 18g with neo products)

Warm it up if its mct you can draw and pin with a slin pin if you wanted. I do on trt doses.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

Illl let everyone know how it goes I go to my urologist tomorrow so I’ll probably have to swuth to a cream or an oral for my trt any advice on which method is better? Thank you

I mean the post surgery instructions.... if anyone actually had that happen theyd refuse any further oils from this vendor. Maybe because hes so responsive, everyone has an issue for replacement vials? If i had an issue, our relationship ends.

 

[The Answ3r]

I started pinning the discussed primo 100, PIP tolerable although I’ve never really had issues with PIP on anything. First time doing primo FYI

Keep us posted. If an abscess shows up or a leg/glute tries to fall off, definitely report back for science. I’m planning to run Primo in a couple months too, so your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

 

[Magenzus]

Keep us posted. If an abscess shows up or a leg/glute tries to fall off, definitely report back for science. I’m planning to run Primo in a couple months too, so your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Its been 24 hours all good, normal Primo pip I guess. No lumps lol

 

[trynagains]

There’s been a lot of talk lately that coring is coming from the older stoppers, so I want to test this myself. For that, I’ll be using 18g, 20g, 22g, and 23g needles.

For context, my entire Primal stash is still completely unopened. I have Test C, Tren E, EQ, Primo E (last batch), Mast E (which I’d rather not sacrifice if possible), Deca, and NPP. I’ll start with an older batch that has the older stoppers and see if any coring shows up depending on needle size. If I notice anything concerning, I’ll report back.

I always draw oils with 21g. I’ve pinned multiple entire vials of Priamal’s mast e, test c, Tren e, and Tren a. All the older stoppers. Never had any issues with coring. Imagine things like temperature will affect the hardness of the stoppers.

 

[jan912]

Its been 24 hours all good, normal Primo pip I guess. No lumps lol

I have 3 vials of the same primo 100, no PIP at all. Did make the mistake of running it 1:1 with prop and had to use dbol to get my E2 back up.

 

[johnydrama]

Finally got the other test back from the TU. I sent the 2 vials same batch. One darker than the other. My mistake was not physically noting on the vial so we could tell like maybe just "A and B" so all we have are the Jano pics. I am going to repost the tests but this first link is the newest we haven't seen.

When I selected the vials I could see a difference in the oil as far as one being slightly darker. Now on the Jano pics I cannot tell. This is frustrating because I think we already knew this info we were just trying to nail down the dark vs light which one was properly dosed.

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Magenzus]

I have 3 vials of the same primo 100, no PIP at all. Did make the mistake of running it 1:1 with prop and had to use dbol to get my E2 back up.

Damn. I am running it with Hcg so we will see. 2:1 ratio. But I did buy Dbol just in case lol.

 

[Whistles77]

Finally got the other test back from the TU. I sent the 2 vials same batch. One darker than the other. My mistake was not physically noting on the vial so we could tell like maybe just "A and B" so all we have are the Jano pics. I am going to repost the tests but this first link is the newest we haven't seen.

When I selected the vials I could see a difference in the oil as far as one being slightly darker. Now on the Jano pics I cannot tell. This is frustrating because I think we already knew this info we were just trying to nail down the dark vs light which one was properly dosed.

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

To my eye on the jano pics, the 197 is lighter and the 252 considerably darker.