Hi guys 
Today I will bring you my personal experience with TRT.
I am 25, poor libido, and I've had multiple labs that showed Total Testosterone below 400 ng/dL (throughout a year i had 470, 330, 450, 370, 320).
Free testosterone dropped under the range just twice, once last year and once this year. Last year I had testosterone cream, this year I had testosterone injections.
I wanted to share my experience because it's quite interesting. I know that in the US testosterone cypionate is used for TRT in 90% of the cases.
Here in Italy, doctors prescibe either enanthate (almost the same as cypionate) or propionate.
My doc gave me 125mg Testoviron (enanthate) once a week. Labwork showed a test level of 1060ng/dL (range 270-900) in the middle day of the week. Crappy libido. Enough to get an erection but never to have real desire.
Then we switched to 50mg Testovis (propionate) every 4 days. Total test was to 790ng/dL 60hours after an injection. Great libido, with highs and lows. Some days it was so raging I couldn't even kiss my girlfriend without getting a hard one. Some other days I have some problems in maintaining an erection, but achieving is no prob.
Actually, before switching to proionate, I also tried 80mg enanthate once a week. It didn't work either. So here are my personal conclusions:
1) I am almost sure that every person has his optimal level of testosterone, and having more not only will not help, IT WILL MAKE YOU WORSE.
2) Even if you achieve an optimal level, remember that we have a circadian rythm with very large variations. In the average healthy young male test levels go from 350 (evening) and 700 (morning). This suggests that having a permanently high testosterone level is no use. Many bodybuilders on cycle or people on high dose TRT have no libido after the first weeks/months. Why on earth should this happen? There are two explanations: high estradiol and brain androgen recepter desensitization.
So these two considerations bring us to the following conclusions:
a) Dont' exeed your optimal level
b) Have frequent fluctuations in your test levels
Of course, there is no scientifical evidence that a fluctuation in test levels is strictly necessary. But consider this: you will never precisely know what your optimum level is. It could be 550. It could be 700. It could even be 800 or 400.
So let's say experience after months of TRT tells you that your libido is best around 600ng/dL. So what's your optimum level? 550? 580? 620? What if you manage to have a stable level of 630ng/dL with every 3 days shots? It could be too much if your optimum is 580.
So the best thing you could do, in my opinion, is to have the test level fluctuate from 400 to 800.
Let's see what happens with test enanthate. Having 200mg every two weeks just makes no sense. You get too high levels and then you go way too low.
Having 100mg once a week makes you absorb approx these quantities of test starting from week no. 5:
day 1: 20
day 2: 17
day 3: 15
day 4: 13
day 5: 11
day 6: 10
day 7: 9
The first 3 days you get more test than you need, so the level raises, probably almost suvraphysiological. The fourth day you stay stable. Then the level goes down to mid-low levels (but within normal range) at day 7.
What does this mean? It means you will have TOO MUCH testosterone for 4 days a week. Your receptors will desensitize and when your test level is normal (days 5,6,7), you won't be sufficiently stimulated to have a good libido.
So that's why many people do 3 injections per week. They keep a steady state level, constantly for all the week.
But what if it is a bit too low? Crappy libido. What if it is a bit too high? Crappy libido ANYWAY!!! And what if we really need a fluctuation to have good libido?
So here is where test propionate comes in. It has a 2 days half life. Meaning that dosing shots every 3 days at 50mg will give you:
day 1: 21
day 2: 15
day 3: 11
So let's see what happens: you get a high dose of test just one day. Your test level goes up, but not suvraphysiological. It just gets high, and quickly (raging libido). Then it remains stable (good libido). Then it goes down, but remains in the normal-low range (mediocre libido). Being normal and then a bit low, the receptors are more sensitive to the next dose, thus giving you again raging libido with the next shot.
Of course, every person is different, and what worked for me may not work for others. But I strongly suggest you try propionate if having poor results with cypionate. And don't exceed the dose. Perhaps you could even run it every 4 days if you have good SHBG (mid-low).
Today I will bring you my personal experience with TRT.
I am 25, poor libido, and I've had multiple labs that showed Total Testosterone below 400 ng/dL (throughout a year i had 470, 330, 450, 370, 320).
Free testosterone dropped under the range just twice, once last year and once this year. Last year I had testosterone cream, this year I had testosterone injections.
I wanted to share my experience because it's quite interesting. I know that in the US testosterone cypionate is used for TRT in 90% of the cases.
Here in Italy, doctors prescibe either enanthate (almost the same as cypionate) or propionate.
My doc gave me 125mg Testoviron (enanthate) once a week. Labwork showed a test level of 1060ng/dL (range 270-900) in the middle day of the week. Crappy libido. Enough to get an erection but never to have real desire.
Then we switched to 50mg Testovis (propionate) every 4 days. Total test was to 790ng/dL 60hours after an injection. Great libido, with highs and lows. Some days it was so raging I couldn't even kiss my girlfriend without getting a hard one. Some other days I have some problems in maintaining an erection, but achieving is no prob.
Actually, before switching to proionate, I also tried 80mg enanthate once a week. It didn't work either. So here are my personal conclusions:
1) I am almost sure that every person has his optimal level of testosterone, and having more not only will not help, IT WILL MAKE YOU WORSE.
2) Even if you achieve an optimal level, remember that we have a circadian rythm with very large variations. In the average healthy young male test levels go from 350 (evening) and 700 (morning). This suggests that having a permanently high testosterone level is no use. Many bodybuilders on cycle or people on high dose TRT have no libido after the first weeks/months. Why on earth should this happen? There are two explanations: high estradiol and brain androgen recepter desensitization.
So these two considerations bring us to the following conclusions:
a) Dont' exeed your optimal level
b) Have frequent fluctuations in your test levels
Of course, there is no scientifical evidence that a fluctuation in test levels is strictly necessary. But consider this: you will never precisely know what your optimum level is. It could be 550. It could be 700. It could even be 800 or 400.
So let's say experience after months of TRT tells you that your libido is best around 600ng/dL. So what's your optimum level? 550? 580? 620? What if you manage to have a stable level of 630ng/dL with every 3 days shots? It could be too much if your optimum is 580.
So the best thing you could do, in my opinion, is to have the test level fluctuate from 400 to 800.
Let's see what happens with test enanthate. Having 200mg every two weeks just makes no sense. You get too high levels and then you go way too low.
Having 100mg once a week makes you absorb approx these quantities of test starting from week no. 5:
day 1: 20
day 2: 17
day 3: 15
day 4: 13
day 5: 11
day 6: 10
day 7: 9
The first 3 days you get more test than you need, so the level raises, probably almost suvraphysiological. The fourth day you stay stable. Then the level goes down to mid-low levels (but within normal range) at day 7.
What does this mean? It means you will have TOO MUCH testosterone for 4 days a week. Your receptors will desensitize and when your test level is normal (days 5,6,7), you won't be sufficiently stimulated to have a good libido.
So that's why many people do 3 injections per week. They keep a steady state level, constantly for all the week.
But what if it is a bit too low? Crappy libido. What if it is a bit too high? Crappy libido ANYWAY!!! And what if we really need a fluctuation to have good libido?
So here is where test propionate comes in. It has a 2 days half life. Meaning that dosing shots every 3 days at 50mg will give you:
day 1: 21
day 2: 15
day 3: 11
So let's see what happens: you get a high dose of test just one day. Your test level goes up, but not suvraphysiological. It just gets high, and quickly (raging libido). Then it remains stable (good libido). Then it goes down, but remains in the normal-low range (mediocre libido). Being normal and then a bit low, the receptors are more sensitive to the next dose, thus giving you again raging libido with the next shot.
Of course, every person is different, and what worked for me may not work for others. But I strongly suggest you try propionate if having poor results with cypionate. And don't exceed the dose. Perhaps you could even run it every 4 days if you have good SHBG (mid-low).
