Proviron (and other DHT steroids)

[SpicyGains321]

The best I have ever felt was on 700mg+ of test and 300mg of mast prop. Running low dose adex I think 1mg e3d. The second I add in a oral, with the exception of proviron. My liver takes a shit and I get lethargic. Low dose test and Tren I feel amazing until week 7 comes.

Yeah, Tren scares the shit out of me lol

People probably exaggerate, but all I hear for the most part are about the side effects. I’ll probably never jump on that wagon.

 

[88general88]

Maybe I’ll up the dose a little and see what happens. Thanks for your perspective!

You are already taking it what do you have to lose?

Bro regarding tren, not trying to sell you on anything. But when people disrespect the compounds they are using and/or their bodies while using compounds then of course they are going to have bad sides. You are also more likely to hear someone complain about their negative experience than share about a positive one.

By not taking proviron 2-3 times daily like it is prescribed to be taken by the most physicians because of its half like, you are missing out. By not trying trying tren at a safe dose, you are missing out. Remember just because tren ace comes brewed at 100mg/ml/cc doesn’t mean you have to inject a entire CC everytime. I have had amazing results before using tren at 30mg Ed or 50-75mg eod. Just something to think about.

 

[SpicyGains321]

You are already taking it what do you have to lose?

True.

 

[bob357sig]

You are already taking it what do you have to lose?

I too thaught I was not going on the tren train ever again. I ran it 20 years ago, got great results but had horrible pip. It was the early days of ugl, and I dont remember things like EO or mct being used back then. Now that im in my upper 40s I figured hell, im probably not going to be able to handle the sides. I happen to have been gifted 2 bottles of tren A so I said fuck it, im going to try it again while im cruising anyway, wtf its summer. I have enough for basically a 6 week run with it at 100 mg MWF. Im halfway through it now and have not gotten any real bad sides. Little night sweats first week but that’s all. I always say don’t worry about what this guy or that guy says about any compound, do your homework on it, then try it for yourself. Everyone is different and responds differently to things. Sure you can generalize things, we kind of know what Adrol is going to do compared to Anavar, tren to Eq. Exc... I personally responded well to Winstrol back in the day, that is one DHT that gave me that Anabolic AF feeling, but now I hear so many guys that won’t even touch it because of the possible joint issues it could cause. Funny that didn’t stop guys from using tren when they used to say it will destroy your kidneys. Never did see all these renal failure bodybuilders, but tons of guys using tren. Just my 2c.

 

[SpicyGains321]

I too thaught I was not going on the tren train ever again. I ran it 20 years ago, got great results but had horrible pip. It was the early days of ugl, and I dont remember things like EO or mct being used back then. Now that im in my upper 40s I figured hell, im probably not going to be able to handle the sides. I happen to have been gifted 2 bottles of tren A so I said fuck it, im going to try it again while im cruising anyway, wtf its summer. I have enough for basically a 6 week run with it at 100 mg MWF. Im halfway through it now and have not gotten any real bad sides. Little night sweats first week but that’s all. I always say don’t worry about what this guy or that guy says about any compound, do your homework on it, then try it for yourself. Everyone is different and responds differently to things. Sure you can generalize things, we kind of know what Adrol is going to do compared to Anavar, tren to Eq. Exc... I personally responded well to Winstrol back in the day, that is one DHT that gave me that Anabolic AF feeling, but now I hear so many guys that won’t even touch it because of the possible joint issues it could cause. Funny that didn’t stop guys from using tren when they used to say it will destroy your kidneys. Never did see all these renal failure bodybuilders, but tons of guys using tren. Just my 2c.

Good info. Thanks for chiming in bud.

 

[88general88]

Good info. Thanks for chiming in bud.

Amazing example brother. Couldn’t have said it better. Obviously, lol

 

[SpicyGains321]

You are already taking it what do you have to lose?

Bro regarding tren, not trying to sell you on anything. But when people disrespect the compounds they are using and/or their bodies while using compounds then of course they are going to have bad sides. You are also more likely to hear someone complain about their negative experience than share about a positive one.

By not taking proviron 2-3 times daily like it is prescribed to be taken by the most physicians because of its half like, you are missing out. By not trying trying tren at a safe dose, you are missing out. Remember just because tren ace comes brewed at 100mg/ml/cc doesn’t mean you have to inject a entire CC everytime. I have had amazing results before using tren at 30mg Ed or 50-75mg eod. Just something to think about.

I don’t know bro. That’s one of those internal risk vs reward debates. The thing is, would it be worth it to subject ones self to the potential downsides of Tren for the limited gains I would assume a lower dose would give? Or would running a higher dose of test bring equivalent gains with less sides?

I say that I’ll probably never give Tren a try. But in reality, I like to experiment. So who am I kidding? Haha.

 

[88general88]

I don’t know bro. That’s one of those internal risk vs reward debates. The thing is, would it be worth it to subject ones self to the potential downsides of Tren for the limited gains I would assume a lower dose would give? Or would running a higher dose of test bring equivalent gains with less sides?

I say that I’ll probably never give Tren a try. But in reality, I like to experiment. So who am I kidding? Haha.

There are only neg sides if you are irresponsible with it. Just like anything, except heroin. lol because it can’t be used responsibly.

Again not trying to sell you on it. It’s not a bandwagon thing either. Bandwagons are irresponsible, because very rarely do people think about them before hopping on. But if you are going to stick aas in your body, I would hate for you to never experience what even a low dose of tren can do to the physique. That’s why so emany people use it. The masses don’t use tren because they get a shit ton of horrible sides from it. They use it because hands down it does amazing things to the body. That’s it

 

[master.on]

Hey Guys, I’ve recently been trying out Proviron @ 25 mg for a bit. Based on everything I’ve read, it should be giving me a decent boost in libido and ‘feeling good’, etc. However, the thing is, I don’t seem to feel any benefit at all from it. It’s worth mentioning that I typically don’t need an AI at mediocre doses of Test either. I’m wondering if the AI effects of Proviron are causing this underwhelming affect, or if I’m simply taking too low of a dose (25 mg/ED) to feel the full benefits?

I already have a decent sex drive and don’t have any problems with ED as it is, but looking for that extra something to make me feel like a pornstar in bed. I’m also curious as to what this ‘feeling good’ thing is all about with DHT compounds. I’ve also never tried Mast. Is Mast worth a shot if Proviron isn’t effective to me? If I did use Mast, it would be for the muscle-building properties as well, and not just the illusive reasons I’ve mentioned.

Any advice? Thanks brothers!

Is that big-pharma Proviron?
Are you off cycle?
Otherwise you won't feel much from it, unless higher dosages are used.

 

[SpicyGains321]

Is that big-pharma Proviron?
Are you off cycle?
Otherwise you won't feel much from it, unless higher dosages are used.

Yeah, it’s Bayer brand. I’m currently running high test. I’ll be adding in Primo shortly.

 

[88general88]

Is that big-pharma Proviron?
Are you off cycle?
Otherwise you won't feel much from it, unless higher dosages are used.

Proviron is one of those compound similar to Arimidex and letro, I feel like it’s best to just go with pharma. I mean it best to go with pharma anyways but In reality most of the time you can get Bayer proviron cheaper than what a ugl will charge for their generic.