PRP injection for shoulder/rotator cuff pain

Good points.

Yeah it's insanely expensive for sure
Well, I watched that video and what Mel Gibson was talking about is not the typical stem cell treatment procedure. Umbilical chord cells are much different than sticking a needle into your own hip bone and withdrawing anything possible and hoping there are enough cells to do the trick. Those guys were talking abt some serious next level shit, but again how conclusive are the trials? There are lawsuits popping up left and right over stem cell treatments lately, basically highway robbery
 
Well, I watched that video and what Mel Gibson was talking about is not the typical stem cell treatment procedure. Umbilical chord cells are much different than sticking a needle into your own hip bone and withdrawing anything possible and hoping there are enough cells to do the trick. Those guys were talking abt some serious next level shit, but again how conclusive are the trials? There are lawsuits popping up left and right over stem cell treatments lately, basically highway robbery

Well, I will be honest and say that I haven't looked too much into the different stem cell studies.

In your opinion, do you think there is potential for sport injuries (muscle, tendon etc), or is it a complete waste of money?
 
Well, I will be honest and say that I haven't looked too much into the different stem cell studies.

In your opinion, do you think there is potential for sport injuries (muscle, tendon etc), or is it a complete waste of money?
There are high profile individuals that are getting stem cells for what you are referring but who can afford them?

mands
 
Well, I will be honest and say that I haven't looked too much into the different stem cell studies.

In your opinion, do you think there is potential for sport injuries (muscle, tendon etc), or is it a complete waste of money?
I truly believe that it's inconclusive as to the effectiveness thus far.
 
What dose would you run for muscle and tendon injury healing?

Im currently doing 4 iu daily split in two shots. Should put my IGF 1 at 500ish.

Also doing PT rehab exercises
Depending on the extend of the injury, but I got pretty high with it after my tricep tendon reattachment, was hitting abt 8iu a day of kigtropin (take that as you may, not sure on dosing accuracy of kigs)

I was reading studies that were suggesting 8-16iu per day for major injury/surgery recovery, but I'm no fool...you don't get to that dosage until you build up to it. My advice is to slowly increase it but steadily look to increasing until injury improves
 
I'll also tell you this, and I say this as God as my witness and put it on my kids life....within 4 weeks of the cast removal I was doing workout sessions of 500 pushups total. Now, tricep pressdowns/extensions were a different story. The doctor told me they didn't want me lifting so much as a coffee cup with that arm for at least 30 days after cast removal. He said "why are you doing 500 pushups rt now?" And my reply was ,"I was depressed and if I didn't go work out I was gonna kill myself sitting around"
 
It sounds like HGH is ones best bet for injury healing

I concur myself

I’m Not even done with my first kit, and my knees already feel better. Pain going up and down stairs has subsided by at least 60-70%. Playing with the kids on the floor and standing up (I used to have to hold onto something to help get up due to the pain) is soooo much easier. I’m not sure what the protocol is for joint injuries/health with hgh, but after multiple surgeries, injections, anti inflammatories, and pain pills the HGH is by far the best thing I have ever tried. Running 2.5iu nightly currently.
 
Depending on the extend of the injury, but I got pretty high with it after my tricep tendon reattachment, was hitting abt 8iu a day of kigtropin (take that as you may, not sure on dosing accuracy of kigs)

I was reading studies that were suggesting 8-16iu per day for major injury/surgery recovery, but I'm no fool...you don't get to that dosage until you build up to it. My advice is to slowly increase it but steadily look to increasing until injury improves

16 ?? That is insane haha

I would be a bit scared to even do 8 iu

Food for thoughts tho, I might try and increase the dose a bit
 
I guess I have to be super lucky to get healing benefits from PRP injection. I did shoulder presses and inclines earlier today for the first time in a year. My left shoulder was pain free but there was some impingements on my right shoulder and I was able to complete my workouts. Several weeks ago, I wasn't able to do more than 2 reps of inclines and presses as the painful pinching of my shoulders was too intense. I'm gonna do another PRP injections in few weeks.
 
I guess I have to be super lucky to get healing benefits from PRP injection. I did shoulder presses and inclines earlier today for the first time in a year. My left shoulder was pain free but there was some impingements on my right shoulder and I was able to complete my workouts. Several weeks ago, I wasn't able to do more than 2 reps of inclines and presses as the painful pinching of my shoulders was too intense. I'm gonna do another PRP injections in few weeks.

Hey, if it works it works
 
Today, I harvested 10cc of PRP from 60cc of blood draw which I injected into my right supraspinatus tendon that's still causing shoulder pain. For this PRP harvest, I did double spin and used cacl2 to activate my PRP sample prior to injecting. I'll report back after 2-4 weeks.
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Hopefully no one walked in on that ;) Good that its working though.

Here's my 2 cents - not a PT, doctor or anything so take it as just an opinion. Is it definitely an impingment problem? I guess you havent always had this if it started in 18 but I think impingment problems can always be solved. If you think about it, the PRP is only going to heal any existing fraying or inflammation there but if you're not fixing the cause of the problem its going to happen again.
Impingement of the tendons in that area are due to a reduced space in the AC joint: simple mechanics. We know that people with naturally reduced space in that joint are more prone to impingement but space also decreases in there because of muscular imbalances. In other words, something is tighter thats squeezing the space where the supraspinatus tendon runs and it is feeling the pinch. Its not the tendon's fault, its your surrounding muscles. Unless there's been a direct injury to the area, thats highly highly likely to be the reason. I reckon your whole shoulder region is tight, causing your humeral head to sit too high and forward, squeezing the AC joint. Its a small space so only a fraction can make a difference.

So what to do- this is where Im a little weak so these are only suggestions You need to work on getting that humerus down and neutral (further back). You do this by getting better scapula movements mechanics, building up rotator cuff muscles, dead hangs of pull-up bars, heavy as fuck farmer walks/holds and general mobility work. All of these, not individual elements. Also, trigger points in traps, scapula region and lower attachments of the rotator cuff muscles - smash them with a hard ball.
 
Hopefully no one walked in on that ;) Good that its working though.

Here's my 2 cents - not a PT, doctor or anything so take it as just an opinion. Is it definitely an impingment problem? I guess you havent always had this if it started in 18 but I think impingment problems can always be solved. If you think about it, the PRP is only going to heal any existing fraying or inflammation there but if you're not fixing the cause of the problem its going to happen again.
Impingement of the tendons in that area are due to a reduced space in the AC joint: simple mechanics. We know that people with naturally reduced space in that joint are more prone to impingement but space also decreases in there because of muscular imbalances. In other words, something is tighter thats squeezing the space where the supraspinatus tendon runs and it is feeling the pinch. Its not the tendon's fault, its your surrounding muscles. Unless there's been a direct injury to the area, thats highly highly likely to be the reason. I reckon your whole shoulder region is tight, causing your humeral head to sit too high and forward, squeezing the AC joint. Its a small space so only a fraction can make a difference.

So what to do- this is where Im a little weak so these are only suggestions You need to work on getting that humerus down and neutral (further back). You do this by getting better scapula movements mechanics, building up rotator cuff muscles, dead hangs of pull-up bars, heavy as fuck farmer walks/holds and general mobility work. All of these, not individual elements. Also, trigger points in traps, scapula region and lower attachments of the rotator cuff muscles - smash them with a hard ball.
Good stuff right here. Pretty much on point with my ortho and PT from my supraspinatus surgery last year. Genetics plays a roll as well, as does the shoulder capsule being frozen from scar tissue.

Depending on usage of the joint, the scapular exercises do wonders as does stretching. If your shoulder is frozen though the stretching and exercises will only take you so far in the right direction.
 
Hopefully no one walked in on that ;) Good that its working though.

Here's my 2 cents - not a PT, doctor or anything so take it as just an opinion. Is it definitely an impingment problem? I guess you havent always had this if it started in 18 but I think impingment problems can always be solved. If you think about it, the PRP is only going to heal any existing fraying or inflammation there but if you're not fixing the cause of the problem its going to happen again.
Impingement of the tendons in that area are due to a reduced space in the AC joint: simple mechanics. We know that people with naturally reduced space in that joint are more prone to impingement but space also decreases in there because of muscular imbalances. In other words, something is tighter thats squeezing the space where the supraspinatus tendon runs and it is feeling the pinch. Its not the tendon's fault, its your surrounding muscles. Unless there's been a direct injury to the area, thats highly highly likely to be the reason. I reckon your whole shoulder region is tight, causing your humeral head to sit too high and forward, squeezing the AC joint. Its a small space so only a fraction can make a difference.

So what to do- this is where Im a little weak so these are only suggestions You need to work on getting that humerus down and neutral (further back). You do this by getting better scapula movements mechanics, building up rotator cuff muscles, dead hangs of pull-up bars, heavy as fuck farmer walks/holds and general mobility work. All of these, not individual elements. Also, trigger points in traps, scapula region and lower attachments of the rotator cuff muscles - smash them with a hard ball.
Very informative. I'll look more into these exercises.
 
Update
I haven't noticed some improvement from the second PRP session. Currently I'm in week 3 of doing bpc-tb-500 therapy and rotator cuff exercises and I'm noticing good results so far.
 
Update
I haven't noticed some improvement from the second PRP session. Currently I'm in week 3 of doing bpc-tb-500 therapy and rotator cuff exercises and I'm noticing good results so far.
Could the improvements be coming strictly from the bpc-157 and tb500?

For this anecdotal experiment there are to many variables to say PRP is doing anything IMO. Personally I hope it's working wonders but have my serious doubts.

mands
 
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