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[rpbb]

I'm sure if a one post wonder came in here posting stellar bloods you'd stay quiet

Probably, just seems to be a lot of customer bashing going on, than there's always the "But pharmacom" excuse. Like i said, ppl created this mess himself

 

[AnTabolic73]

This is true but we need verified complaints. Read his posts and it is obvious he has ulterior motives.

Look at his history, complaints on just about all of the raws suppliers.

Looks like he bashes and tries to get free shit.

Not excusing anything that's gone on, just saying we don't need shill shit on the complain train.

Reverse scamming has been going on for years. Kinda been the community consensus to say fuck the source he makes enough money to deal with the 1% of reverse scammers out there. We dont tolerate it if it was the source doing the scamming. But we get accused of being shills or reps for calling out members. It's fine. I just don't see things from 1 point of view. I'm not a source doesn't mean I can't see things from their perspective.

 

[flenser]

You got an abscess and don't think it's a problem with the gear?

I meant I don't think the gear was contaminated. The mig oil does seem to complicate things.

 

[OldmanRob]

Reverse scamming has been going on for years. Kinda been the community consensus to say fuck the source he makes enough money to deal with the 1% of reverse scammers out there. We dont tolerate it if it was the source doing the scamming. But we get accused of being shills or reps for calling out members. It's fine. I just don't see things from 1 point of view. I'm not a source doesn't mean I can't see things from their perspective.

I understand what your saying completely.

It's going on in this thread daily

 

[rpbb]

I understand what your saying completely.

It's going on in this thread daily

Reverse scam and get what? Underdosed contaminated gear?

 

[AnTabolic73]

I understand what your saying completely.

It's going on in this thread daily

It happens to all sources. Especially the big ones(more so probably). Add on the ones that aren't scamming and maybe just trying to sway opinions for ulterior motives. It's hard to make informed decisions now adays.
But with testing available and blood work things are getting better, but not 100% foolproof.

 

[OldmanRob]

Reverse scam and get what? Underdosed contaminated gear?

Posts to harm a source maybe getting hooked up from another source for it.

Trying to get free gear from the one your bashing.

Making one look bad before you open your own, many reasons for people.to do it.

I am not saying every new guy with a bash is guilty but it's funny how they pop up like pilgrims with pitchforks

 

[rpbb]

It happens to all sources. Especially the big ones(more so probably). Add on the ones that aren't scamming and maybe just trying to sway opinions for ulterior motives. It's hard to make informed decisions now adays.
But with testing available and blood work things are getting better, but not 100% foolproof.

Think this through, if Bergman was reverse scamming ppl, he wouldn't of broadcast his complaint in public, once that happens, he gets nothing out of ppl

 

[rpbb]

Posts to harm a source maybe getting hooked up from another source for it.

Trying to get free gear from the one your bashing.

Making one look bad before you open your own, many reasons for people.to do it.

I am not saying every new guy with a bash is guilty but it's funny how they pop up like pilgrims with pitchforks

Could be right, just seems like the wrong way to get free gear, and there's so many sources these days making so much money, i doubt they care about ppl one way or another

 

[OldmanRob]

Could be right, just seems like the wrong way to get free gear, and there's so many sources these days making so much money, i doubt they care about ppl one way or another

Possibly, I could be way off here. I just notice the amount of newbie bashers when things go even a little wrong.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Reverse scam and get what? Underdosed contaminated gear?

Yea. Not to say this is happening here. But you can't act naive that it doesn't happen.

Order 10 vials. Inject 200 mg say your injecting 1 gram. Get bloods, post bloods. Ask for replacements. Rinse wash repeat.

Only reason I'm giving members the benefit of the doubt, like I said, is because it's happened before. Fuck ups happen. I wouldn't compare panda to pharmacom, he has a long way to go to be at that level, but they have poor bloods and claims of bunk dbol, and even under dosed test prop on anabolic lab. I never considered any of those really credible because in this game, slander and shit like that is common place. This isn't exactly a legal market. You can't go to court when someone say malicious shit that affects your bottom line.

But this is what sources deal with. Unfortunately us members have to try and sort through the muck. But that's hard as hell. Stand up members get accused of having ulterior motives. Actual reviews get dismissed if you post twice every 3 years.

Sucks for everyone

 

[AnTabolic73]

Think this through, if Bergman was reverse scamming ppl, he wouldn't of broadcast his complaint in public, once that happens, he gets nothing out of ppl

I'm not talking g about anyone specifically, just in general terms.

He's most likely telling the truth, it's just becoming more and more difficult to tell now a days.

 

[rpbb]

Yea. Not to say this is happening here. But you can't act naive that it doesn't happen.

Order 10 vials. Inject 200 mg say your injecting 1 gram. Get bloods, post bloods. Ask for replacements. Rinse wash repeat.

Only reason I'm giving members the benefit of the doubt, like I said, is because it's happened before. Fuck ups happen. I wouldn't compare panda to pharmacom, he has a long way to go to be at that level, but they have poor bloods and claims of bunk dbol, and even under dosed test prop on anabolic lab. I never considered any of those really credible because in this game, slander and shit like that is common place. This isn't exactly a legal market. You can't go to court when someone say malicious shit that affects your bottom line.

But this is what sources deal with. Unfortunately us members have to try and sort through the muck. But that's hard as hell. Stand up members get accused of having ulterior motives. Actual reviews get dismissed if you post twice every 3 years.

Sucks for everyone

Very good points, one of the main reasons we are so lucky to have this place to come to, we get to work through these things, and not be censored

 

[AnTabolic73]

And maybe it's like the Hollywood sex scandal, maybe all it took was one brave soul to speak up, and now all the victims are empowered to say what they've been holding in.

 

[Sudz]

What a mess, got to get that wbc count down. And if I remember right, weren't you the one I told to stop running the test if you were getting bad pip from it. You should never get pip from normal concentration test. Don't care what anyone says

Yes that was probably me. I tried to tough it out but as you can see from my blood work the white blood cell count is extremely high. I would feel like i have the flu about 24 hours after every injection for 2-3 days, it was awful. I do not think this is from the carrier oil miglyol like everyone is saying

Everyone is also complaining and only focusing at the total test numbers, My main complaint is the fucking white blood cell count. I told PPL rep that hey man this shit is making me sick, I cant run it. I even told him on Monday I was getting blood work so he knew this was coming, yet he ignores to acknowledge what i have to post and is only concerned what Cramps has to post. And with him telling me theres nothing he can do is pretty much a big fuck you and absolute shit for customer service, yet others have been reimbursed or had reships sent to them. Why I am an being singled out? Another thing no one is mentioning and caught up on the fucking test number, what about the 500 Equipoise im running? My blood work does not look like someone running EQ.

Ultimately this is what I have got from PPL. -
Testosterone that makes me sick, therefore fucking useless.
Equipoise with a dubious label cover up that is likely not accurate.
92 Arimidex out of 100 I ordered. But hey at least it is good.
Zero customer service, except I did get a prompt reship when everything was being seized.
The flu, pirate peg leg, and hotdog bun shaped lumps in my glutes.

 

[PIZZABOY]

I guess you mean me? The difference between you and me is that I can prove my orders at PPL (Raws).
It's obvious that you suck some members cock here! So dick boy.. why dont u write something more that help this theard then sucking memebers cock?

If you had just asked, I could have shown that I do have substance to write in this thread.
But i guess u wanted just too suck some members cock with that post.

Show me what you got. Labs pics or just some big words you googled. Im in a shitty mood, im tired of getting fucked and im glad your here to save the day. WHAT INFO DO YOU HAVE

 

[rpbb]

Yes that was probably me. I tried to tough it out but as you can see from my blood work the white blood cell count is extremely high. I would feel like i have the flu about 24 hours after every injection for 2-3 days, it was awful. I do not think this is from the carrier oil miglyol like everyone is saying

Everyone is also complaining and only focusing at the total test numbers, My main complaint is the fucking white blood cell count. I told PPL rep that hey man this shit is making me sick, I cant run it. I even told him on Monday I was getting blood work so he knew this was coming, yet he ignores to acknowledge what i have to post and is only concerned what Cramps has to post. And with him telling me theres nothing he can do is pretty much a big fuck you and absolute shit for customer service, yet others have been reimbursed or had reships sent to them. Why I am an being singled out? Another thing no one is mentioning and caught up on the fucking test number, what about the 500 Equipoise im running? My blood work does not look like someone running EQ.

Ultimately this is what I have got from PPL. -
Testosterone that makes me sick, therefore fucking useless.
Equipoise with a dubious label cover up that is likely not accurate.
92 Arimidex out of 100 I ordered. But hey at least it is good.
Zero customer service, except I did get a prompt reship when everything was being seized.
The flu, pirate peg leg, and hotdog bun shaped lumps in my glutes.

The funny thing is that a similar situation is what lead me to this board. I was getting horrible pip from wicked labs, and I was looking all over the web as to what to do about it. Wicked was great about the situation, and even reshipped me 6 new vials from a newer batch. But I still got crippling pip. Came to this board by chance, and learned from the vets that test should never give you crippling pip. So I found another supplier, and have went through some other suppliers as well over the years, and never had another problem. I did thank wicked for being a stand up guy, and paid him for the re ship because I didn't believe it was his fault. And you poor bastards have been stuck with me since

 

[crau85]

Why didn't panda buy from elite and inspect the Shit out of his gear?

He hired a brewer based of words...

Panda didn't buy his gear and send to analyzer or inspect if it was clean... he did the lazy thing and said..... yup... that looks good.... hired.

So again... panda wreckless decision making ....

I do not mean to take away blame from Panda. This would have been avoided had members inspected their gear from Elite and that was my point. Meso boasts this strong vetting process yet Elite sold garbage gear here for months and no one caught it. Elite is literally laughing at us.

Everyone reacts/responds differently but I had bloodwork done on a different labs test C (Alpha I believe) like 4-5 weeks before I pulled bloods on Omega's. I got something like 4500 on 500mg of Alpha test C while only like 2200 on Omega's Test E. I never had Alpha gear tested so perhaps it was extremely overdosed. I can't say for certain but all I know is Omega didn't stick around. I didn't get the results I expected but I'm not the type to immediately break out the pitch forks n torches n run them out of here. Didn't it come out later that he was selling some old ass shit left over from his previous lab experiment.

I just brought that scenario up as an example. Omega was garbage, but his test e came back overdosedby 10% and your bloods came in at 2200 on 660/ week. As you said a previous lab tested bloods much higher. So blood work doesn’t tell the whole story and isn’t reliable for testing potency.

 

[rpbb]

I do not mean to take away blame from Panda. This would have been avoided had members inspected their gear from Elite and that was my point. Meso boasts this strong vetting process yet Elite sold garbage gear here for months and no one caught it. Elite is literally laughing at us.



I just brought that scenario up as an example. Omega was garbage, but his test e came back overdosedby 10% and your bloods came in at 2200 on 660/ week. As you said a previous lab tested bloods much higher. So blood work doesn’t tell the whole story and isn’t reliable for testing potency.

Really sounds like you're trying take the blame away from panda

 

[rpbb]

I do not mean to take away blame from Panda. This would have been avoided had members inspected their gear from Elite and that was my point. Meso boasts this strong vetting process yet Elite sold garbage gear here for months and no one caught it. Elite is literally laughing at us.



I just brought that scenario up as an example. Omega was garbage, but his test e came back overdosedby 10% and your bloods came in at 2200 on 660/ week. As you said a previous lab tested bloods much higher. So blood work doesn’t tell the whole story and isn’t reliable for testing potency.

And I told you guys to stay away from omega on day one, because he had scammed members over at sf