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[BP_6]

Well, I do know that today the US was actually having some real trade talks with China however I can't find anywhere any reporting on the status.

I doubt any real progress will be made with the court case pending. Plus apparently the "rare earth minerals" thing is becoming a big issue. That is one of China's strongest cards as there literally is almost no other option. I will be interesting to see if something good comes up or it explodes into a disaster.

 

[CubanQuentin]

Well, I do know that today the US was actually having some real trade talks with China however I can't find anywhere any reporting on the status.

I doubt any real progress will be made with the court case pending. Plus apparently the "rare earth minerals" thing is becoming a big issue. That is one of China's strongest cards as there literally is almost no other option. I will be interesting to see if something good comes up or it explodes into a disaster.

Politically the US needs antagonism and right now the main "candidate" is China. In the past this didn't impede the free flow of tons of cheap Chinese packs and the lack of customs scrutiny that came with it but the economic and political landscape is changing. As well as that the "anti-China" hawks are the ones that won this election and it will have ramifications beyond when Trump and the Republicans leave office; the US has proven to be unpredictable and that will condition the deals any country (specially China) makes with them beyond this administration. As for what the EU will do, 99% of the time they follow what the US does so unfortunately for us in the EU it seems like the same will happen here, eventually

I will say I have to side with the pessimist camp on this one. Historically drugs aren't readily available unless they're sold in pharmacies, not just PEDs, any sort of drugs. And when they are, it tends to be similar to what's happened in the past few years: a short stint them being incredibly easy to get (think coke in the 80s) followed by a return to the usual protocols of illegal drug sellers and even consumers being prosecuted (shocking, I know)

Some of you keep thinking that these things are like supplements. One could argue that they should be, at least some of them. That's not really relevant to how LE sees it, however, as to them this is just one more drug to "fight to get off their streets" (aka earn brownie points, use as justification to expand authority abuses and surveillance, and justify their ever-increasing budgets)

This all boils down to money like most things do, and PEDs are left in an awkward position where most legit people won't touch them as they're prosecuted hard like some illicit drugs are but they don't bring in as much profit as said hard drugs. If I were one of like 4 people in Europe/the US who knows how to (and has the equipment and access to materials required while bypassing customs) synthezise raw test I would be liking my lips right now. I'm not looking to give anybody any illicit ideas, but if that were the case I would be looking to set up labs in Morocco and Mexico, respectively for each region

 

[IndividualMan]

And what, lol, the white powders will be permitted to flow unrestricted from China again because tens of thousands of dead Americans a year are acceptable?

Do you recall what the last administration said their "top priority" was after the election?

Ending de minimus for China, primarily to stop the flow of drugs slipping through in the massive amount of Chinese packs that simply couldn't be put through normal customs scrutiny. .

Scheduled drugs, machine gun parts, counterfeit goods, banned slavery made products, and all sorts of items that were subject to tarrifs all slipping through en masse was never normal.

Having scheduled drugs delivered to your door from China with a 99% success rate was a historical fluke, and it's never coming back. With a significantly reduced flow, customs will become increasingly effective too.

Steroids will have to come in the old fashioned way, smuggled like other drugs, and bought from domestic sources.

look man, i can guarantee noone in your gov gives a single shit about any stage of the opioid epidemic and those who contribute. The current lashing out of the US gov very much IS out of the ordinary, seeing as consistently achieving exponential financial growth is the one thing every single senator personally cares about. This growth has only been made possible through liberal trade policies, and a feeling of safety and stability in the market.
They will return to the trade policies, they have to. But I do agree that they are definitely going to scrutinize/look at far more packages, Seize more, scan/identify more with new Technologies etc.

Our fun hobby we have here has already changed a lot in the last 6 months. It will probably never return to where it was (sad). Shipping and production have new, more stringent rules to follow, and it shows.
But it will bounce back in some capacity.
I know you called the situation pretty well before it happened, but i think you underestimate the dedication the chinese have to making steady, good profits.
And i can guarantee, as soon as the Dems take over/not put their hands up their ass and twiddle their thumbs they will push for more open trade. Even the next Republican gov will probably not pursue the current approach to trade. None of them like this. They like their stocks going up and their global influence being high, not the American citizen doing well/not getting hooked on nitazines/fent.

 

[Mac81]

Is this known for certain, that PPL does not directly send to end recipient from China or is it speculation based on the tracking of the shipments? I’m not saying anyone is full of BS, I’m just asking if someone knows for sure this is how they operate? If this is the case it would certainly provide some relief with placing an international order these days.

Dude I wouldn't stress about it too much, unless you're ordering something ridiculous, It's going to just get throwed out by customs anyways. If your just ordering sensible amounts, a few hundred grams at a time, which is more than enough to keep a single person going for years and years at a time with their own supply. It's not really something to worry about, It's still pretty damn easy to get something like that through, It's when you cross the line to being a manufacturer and distributor, And you're bringing in pounds at a time,that I would start to worry about seizures and losing large amounts of money. I haven't noticed anything different about the ability to get packages in at all since any of this started, but it could be because of the amounts... I'm no expert on the situation I'm just going by what I've been seeing and experiencing.. I'm not going to say much more than that I'm not trying to implicate myself in any way. Just use your head, Don't try to turn this into a business just worry about yourself and you'll be fine... I've never had a package seized once in my life, That's all I'm willing to say I'm not going to get into frequency or amounts or anything like that

 

[Hitman]

Generally once certain border measures are put inplace , they rarely revert back to how they were. You blokes need to get used to the fact that you had it easy for so long and got complacent and now you have to deal with the repercussions when procedures change.

 

[aestheticdepot]

Dude I wouldn't stress about it too much, unless you're ordering something ridiculous, It's going to just get throwed out by customs anyways. If your just ordering sensible amounts, a few hundred grams at a time, which is more than enough to keep a single person going for years and years at a time with their own supply. It's not really something to worry about, It's still pretty damn easy to get something like that through, It's when you cross the line to being a manufacturer and distributor, And you're bringing in pounds at a time,that I would start to worry about seizures and losing large amounts of money. I haven't noticed anything different about the ability to get packages in at all since any of this started, but it could be because of the amounts... I'm no expert on the situation I'm just going by what I've been seeing and experiencing.. I'm not going to say much more than that I'm not trying to implicate myself in any way. Just use your head, Don't try to turn this into a business just worry about yourself and you'll be fine... I've never had a package seized once in my life, That's all I'm willing to say I'm not going to get into frequency or amounts or anything like that

Thank you for your very honest and unfiltered feedback.

 

[Mac81]

Generally once certain border measures are put inplace , they rarely revert back to how they were. You blokes need to get used to the fact that you had it easy for so long and got complacent and now you have to deal with the repercussions when procedures change.

Thank you for your very honest and unfiltered feedback.

Np. I wished I wouldn't have panicked when everybody started freaking out on here... I didn't realize that this forum was different than others, these guys are all people running labs, so when they started freaking out and saying everything was getting seized, customs was nailing everything, and cheap raws were gone, I got scared and started laying low, lol And then I realized they're not talking about normal shipments, these guys are all getting hit because of what they're ordering, no s*** they're getting seized, there's no way I would try to order like that in the current situation. But if you're just an average dude, You ain't got anything to worry about, You still have a 98% chance of getting whatever you order. It's damn easy still to get a few hundred grams through in a single order, And if you do that four or five times, You should have enough stuff to last you many years to come, This stuff is affecting them not the average guy, I've had at least a half a dozen packages come in in the last two or three months, And they blew through customs like nothing, It's what and how much that's causing these guys problems... And I don't know what to say about that, the future doesn't look good for the labs..but it will never affect the rest of us, because we don't fall in that category

 

[Steve0815]

They have an onlineshop a few sites back you can find the Adresse.

 

[Steve0815]

https://purplepandalabs.io/

This

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

Any packs landed from here lately. Curious how they're getting on. not much talked about. wonderfing what the most current ship time has been.

 

[Photon]

Any packs landed from here lately. Curious how they're getting on. not much talked about. wonderfing what the most current ship time has been.

Pack 1 - 9 weeks
Pack 2 - Stuck at customs. Currently week 5
Pack 3 - 2.5 weeks.

For almost all raw vendors, you will get what you ordered.
That's not the main issue. The issue is what purity will you get?

70% pure Tren is still Tren.
Test what you get.

 

[Steve0815]

Got mine in about 2 weeks, now i send the raws for testing....

 

[whoremoan1]

Got mine in about 2 weeks, now i send the raws for testing....

Which raws did you get ?

 

[Steve0815]

Test iso, dhb c, nandro deca

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

Test iso, dhb c, nandro deca

Yea, I grabbed some test ace raws and Boldenone Undec. I now see they have Test prop raws. I wonder how long after I ordered they came in. Always wanted to eventually chekc out the test ace and since it was the only thing really available other than those super long esters, i just decided now is a good time.

 

[IndividualMan]

Yea, I grabbed some test ace raws and Boldenone Undec. I now see they have Test prop raws. I wonder how long after I ordered they came in. Always wanted to eventually chekc out the test ace and since it was the only thing really available other than those super long esters, i just decided now is a good time.

test ace hurts like a bitch, i ordered ~10g as a little treat, got 6g, brewed at 50mg/ml in castor, had a massive lump in my quad for ~4 days. Would recommend TPhenylProp or TProp over ace.

 

[IndividualMan]

They do carry those two esters too, and I believe both give generally less PIP than Test Ace. Even test Base (which they also have) is better than ACE in my opinion, and again, less PIP.

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

They do carry those two esters too, and I believe both give generally less PIP than Test Ace. Even test Base (which they also have) is better than ACE in my opinion, and again, less PIP.

damn all bad to hear. luckily its under 100g worth. but when i placed the order. the test prop was nowhere to be found for at least a month at that point. It just recently popped back up on the site.

 

[IndividualMan]

you can always order more prop

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

you can always order more prop

a month out from first order and trackin still hasnt updated. if i ordered prop probably wouldnt have it til december.