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Trenbolonetax
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Ah okay, super interesting. I jumped to conclusions. My interest is piqued, to say the least, of using it. Not that there is anything wrong with my MCT, but it just sounds incredible to be able to also use less BB and have thin AF oil.
I appreciate the info. Gonna add this to my list of deep dives.
EDIT: Got it; read the rest of your post. I think that's a good point. Ideal to use neither EO nor Mig840. There's just that voice in my head that says it would be so cool to have oil thin like water even though it's completely unnecessary for me lol. As is most of the shit I do.
If you get any good infos, please share.
Yes the combination of less BB (not that it's harmful in the quantity we inject, but it makes any recipes easier if you know that you can use half BB and you use than standard 20%, your gear will hold 110% with no problems).
Is how thin it is that makes the oil fucking amazing tho.
That's the biggest pro of mig840.
Is it worth the risk tho? Fuck if I know and I'm having lots of doubt about it.
Trenbolonetax
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I definitely will share!
Yea, it's the thin aspect of it that is so appealing.
I'll add this to my list of "is this worth the risk" questions and then just probably ignore it like everything else. Jk, kinda jk, but half serious.
The thing is... Ok it's thinner, ok it's very nice to be able to inject with 27G with a 3ml syringe and 29G with a 1ml syringe but is it worth your health?
Because we can brew everything we need with just MCT, so the only reason to use MIG840 is for being able to draw and inject with smaller needles.
Does injecting with bigger needles pose an health risk? Not really.
Does using mig840 pose an health risk? Unknown.
It's not hard to decide what do isn't it?
I'll probably use mig840 only for some substances maybe the most viscous one and the one that are very long ester.
Would be nice to be able to shoot bold U 600 for example without an harpoon xD
Maybe a 50/50 mix of mig840/MCT so to reduce the total quantity of it? .
Fuck me man I know what's the right choice, I just like so much the idea of using it ahaha
Trenbolonetax
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Hahahahaha this is like watching my brain work in real time. I understand and I'm right there with you.
Think using it sparingly, like in the situation you outlined, is the way to get most advantageous benefit:risk out of it.
Obviously better to avoid altogether, but if going to use, like you suggested is IMO the way to go.
Ghoul
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Miglyol 840 is being openly marketed as suitable and approved for injection. I'd be surprised if a major company would put their ass on the line like that if there were any known safety issue.
Maybe it hasn't been around long enough for widespread adoption by pharma.
Or maybe just being much more
expensive is enough of a reason, and so its low viscosity property is only used where absolutely needed, like very large volume injections for animals and Sampei.
(Miglyol 812N is FDA approved to be used as nutrition by IV, which means huge volumes over long periods of time are considered safe. If health is the top priority, that's about as certain as you can get that a carrier oil is non-harmful.)
Maybe it hasn't been around long enough for widespread adoption by pharma.
Or maybe just being much more
expensive is enough of a reason, and so its low viscosity property is only used where absolutely needed, like very large volume injections for animals and Sampei.
(Miglyol 812N is FDA approved to be used as nutrition by IV, which means huge volumes over long periods of time are considered safe. If health is the top priority, that's about as certain as you can get that a carrier oil is non-harmful.)
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IronJohnDoe
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Only thing you risk is scar tissue but then again rotation and you are good.
I inject with 25g Orange (Tried smaller but I struggle with the oil too thick hence I understand the appeal for mig840 but once more is it worth the risk?)
Just rotate I have 10+ injection spots so not worried much, also for me is a little different as I pin daily so my oil amount is way smaller but when I used to pin 3-5ml in one go I would still use an orange 25g but yes it would take more than a minute.
Oh and those thumbs gains! Lol couldn't resist, those pushing days leaving the mark on your finger, so glad I switched to daily and very small amount of oil injected
Edit: Just read @Ghoul
Reply, my bad, then if is safe and you inject large amounts it could be a suitable solution.
Although personally I don't like large amounts in one go as abscess risk increases.
Mig812 it's MCT doesn't have anything different from the usual 60/40 USP MCT. It has of course very specific limits specification but I have found many 60/40 MCT oil having same COA as the mig812, you just need to searchMiglyol 840 is being openly marketed as suitable and approved for injection. I'd be surprised if a major company would put their ass on the line like that if there were any known safety issue.
Maybe it hasn't been around long enough for widespread adoption by pharma.
Or maybe just being much more
expensive is enough of a reason, and so its low viscosity property is only used where absolutely needed, like very large volume injections for animals and Sampei.
(Miglyol 812 is FDA approved to be used as nutrition by IV, which means huge volumes over long periods of time are considered safe. If health is the top priority, that's about as certain as you can get about a carrier oil being non-harmful.)
I like your dissection tho, I mean you just enabled my addiction further in justifying me using mig840 ahahah
Btw yeah price is the first thing that comes up to mind about not being adopted widely, it's a lot more expensive compared to other carrier oils used.
Plus not everyone react well to MCT (and so mig840 too).
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When I call my wife for 2.5-3ml injection in the glute with 27G she starts cursing me, talking about thumbs gain ahahah
Poor woman She struggles sometime with 25G as well if the oil is a viscous one and I forgot to warm it up xD
ZyzzReincarnate
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Yes
Here I was wondering why I am getting worse water retention. Well a 16.7% difference in the amount of GH (42ius vs 36ius) I am actually taking likely explains why...
Thank you.
readalot
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For a laugh, you can easily follow this loser's "harm reduction epiphany" a few weeks ago. It started when he got a few thumbs up after screeching at a couple of vendor's for "lab pics", and you can see the drama and hysteria build from there. He really started making traction piling on to GA and hit the rage mother load here at QSC in the last couple of days.
Pathetic. Completely disingenuous, Says whatever will get the most attention.
Search results
thinksteroids.com
Long story short..."why are you guys hitting out at GA when QSC is here?"
Trash QSC.
"Hey now!"
But wait. There's more! Now there's a plug* for Naps in nice, neat relative harm reduction packaging.
Meanwhile, who is actually holding vendors accountable to the GOAL?
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gburdell
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Yeah, 60s. I always buy used.
ZyzzReincarnate
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What is GA?
readalot
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Trenbolonetax
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IronJohnDoe
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Hahaha been there my ex was doing my pinning yep glute too (since we broke up years ago I had to learn to self inject and for good measure as my current mrs she couldn't inject to save her life lol)
And that's when I first find out about those "thumbs gains" hahaha
gburdell
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I'd heard that EO comes down to tolerability, i.e. if you don't have injection site issues, then it's good to go. What are the concerns specifically with EO?
And if not mig840 nor EO, then what's best?
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