Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

Thank you very much for update. Nothing else can be said. As narta mentioned, people know what's up and still drop their $$$ here.

Best to spend my future time highlighting and supporting improved testing for new domestic oil lines.

As BBBG used to say..."do not recommend this source. Much better options to spend your money elsewhere."

Let's watch Meso hold this source accountable.......
No problem. Definitely done with QSC.
 
Thank you. That's what I've been wondering based on your posts... immunogenicity. It does seem to mesh with my experience. I've actually been very methodical about dosing and ramping but now seem to only experience side effects, making it impossible to increase to a point where the appetite suppression might return. I'm only a day or two outside of my weekly injection. I had started at 2.5mg (Tirz) for a month and then increased to 3.3mg for the past three weeks, but each week that injection day seems to be getting worse. I'm going to drop back to 2.5mg and stay there for longer. Might it be worth using even less?

It takes 4 weekly doses to reach stable levels, so it's entirely possible the same dose induces increasing side effects on each subsequent injection as blood levels continue to increase.

There are no adverse effects from dropping. the dose, it's far better than stopping. "Continuous exposure", somewhat counterintuitively, is a medical strategy to limit immunogenicity. A "break" appears to give the immune system a chance to build greater defenses.

Two factors you may try to reduce or perhaps eliminate the sides you're experiencing.

Make sure you're using .5ml volume for each dose. This will slow uptake for a gentler slope of absorbtion of the drug. As you said "injection day" is the worst, this may help if you're using a smaller volume which slams it into your system faster,

Secondly, consider filtering. Some of the effects you're feeling could be from a response caused by aggregates and other impurities. While this is a "feels" report, I've reduced certain sides significantly, not subtle at all, from a few side effect inducing peptides I've been using for a while by filtering. The FDA found immune responses to a compounding pharmacy produced peptide were reduced 80% by filtering in a recent in vitro experiment. and even helped to a lesser degree with pharma produced peptides.

From the moment peptides are reconstituted, they start to fall apart and form aggregates. UGL peptides don't have the same excipients pharma use to limit this. For about $1 in material, filtering is a way to get most of these, and many other unidentified contaminants out prior to injection.
 
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Just to echo what Max said. GIP acts on the brain as an anti-nauseant. But to get enough GLP will require a high dose.

If she's used to 2.4mg pharma Sema, switch her to 10mg Tirz, and if that's not getting the job done just go straight to 15 on the next dose. Luckily Tirz has fallen so much in price. You can point out it's got additional health benefits beyond Sema as well,

Normally I would recommend caution, but if she needs very strong appetite suppression and already used to 2.4mg pharma Sema, this would be an exception.

Try to make sure her doses are .5ml in volume as well.

You're doing this woman a real kindness. It speaks to your character as a man.
Will do, I’ll order her some tirz kits.



Should be no problem to reconstitute a 10mg vial with .5ml bac water right? I’ve only reconstituted hgh and sema before. Never any other peptides.



I appreciate the recommendation and kind words Ghoul.
 
I'm not on ignore? Not surprised. You lied to me "Tracy". Lie after lie.

How you show up here after that vial last weekend and then won't even test it. Wow.

If Meso members believed in the GOAL your thread would cease today. You are never going to forgive these people for what they let you get away with.
You've always been on ignore , and it happened that sometimes I need to see what the ignored clowns still say, since I see the ignored content in each page:

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Will do, I’ll order her some tirz kits.



Should be no problem to reconstitute a 10mg vial with .5ml bac water right? I’ve only reconstituted hgh and sema before. Never any other peptides.



I appreciate the recommendation and kind words Ghoul.

Yes that'd be ideal. I like to let it rest for 10 mins after it's clear before injection. Many peptides need a little time to fully rehydrate even after appearing dissolved.

Also, you and she should be prepared for her needing a higher dose. Tirz is very good at taking away the "food noise", but some people need the side effects that result from eating beyond their appetite for "punishment". With Tirz, that can take up to 15 or even 20mg.
 
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You know what's deluded? Paying for untrimmed brisket and asking wagyu steak.

Let's say Tracy up their game, with teflon coated stoppers, inline prefilters plus terminal heat sterilization, endotoxin, sterility, plus standard HPLC for purity and concentration, complete with batch numbers and the works and suddenly their kit of Test E goes from $100 to $400. You know what is going to happen? You guessed right: every cheap ass mf that bitch and moaned for the lack of quality stoppers, yada yada will bitch and moan about the price.

There is a better and simpler way to change things: stop buying. But alas, no one does that, because....reasons.

We do the same thing in our everyday grocery shopping: we pick and choose what we shop from where. Pick your finished oils elsewhere. Only then the vendor will change his tune and be better, when he sees the kits sitting all nice and pretty in his warehouse.

All I see is people going to the shittiest hot dog stand, get a literally dead dog on a bun because it's cheap as shit, eat it and in every bite moan because it tastes like shit. And of course you have the "ethical wannabe savior" with the look of Mr. SaintShitStain, preaching to anyone going to buy that shit, that it's not healthy because the dog is not grass feed ffs.

Agree.
What you write is fair and it all makes sense.
Thank you very much for taking time to reply, on a Sunday night.
 
The fact remains: QSC is not going anywhere. The business will continue as usual. Once the situation in China stabilizes, the recent flurry of discussion—spanning the last 100 pages or so—will fade into obscurity. Occasionally, we might still encounter the odd “bubble boy” post here and there (and yes, I include myself in that group). However, cheap and accessible gear will always outperform the so-called “bubble boys.” This reality persists regardless of how passionately we shout into the echo chamber.

While I’m not one to give up, I also recognize the futility of dedicating countless hours to a non-existent mission. We’re all (mostly) adults here, capable of making our own decisions. If someone chooses not to conduct their own due diligence, so be it—it’s a free market, after all. For the sake of focus, it would be wise to reserve debates, arguments, and fact-checking for a dedicated thread, such as Readalot’s enhanced testing thread. Those who actively seek out such discussions are already on the right track. At the end of the day, whatever choices they make remain their own.

There’s no need to perpetually replay the same concerns, as though stuck in a GIF endlessly echoing within a chamber of doom.

Best wishes to all. May your oil remain safe, and may your orders reach you without interference. Wishing everyone a good day—be well.
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Can someone help me identify these products?

I got a few things from one of the promos...
HGH 24IU (these should be grey)
HCG 15kIU (these should be green)
BPC157 10mg

Normal non promo...
NA SELANK AMIDATE 10mg
NA SEMAX AMIDATE 10mg

My problem is that the BPC, Semax, and Selank all look like they have a red cap.
 
Can someone help me identify these products?

I got a few things from one of the promos...
HGH 24IU (these should be grey)
HCG 15kIU (these should be green)
BPC157 10mg

Normal non promo...
NA SELANK AMIDATE 10mg
NA SEMAX AMIDATE 10mg

My problem is that the BPC, Semax, and Selank all look like they have a red cap.
Try to not mix different orders, it will be easier for you to distinguish them.

Promos orders are seperate, if they are domestic, they have SKU. If international, they have numbers, check the lab tests for extra help.

NA semax = Janoshik Analytical

NA selank = Janoshik Analytical
 
Try to not mix different orders, it will be easier for you to distinguish them.

Promos orders are seperate, if they are domestic, they have SKU. If international, they have numbers, check the lab tests for extra help.

NA semax = Janoshik Analytical

NA selank = Janoshik Analytical
I don't see any SKU in the lab tests.

I'll try to not make too many orders, but after someone here convinced me your products are safe, It will be hard for me to not spend 500 to 1k per month depending on your promos. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I don't see any SKU in the lab tests.

I'll try to not make too many orders, but after someone here convinced me your products are safe, It will be hard for me to not spend 500 to 1k per month depending on your promos. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There is no SKU in the lab tests, the SKU are on the domestic packaging.
Next to bar codes of each bag of peptide.

For international, you have numbers on the packaging of each.
 
#EndQSC

Vote with your wallet Meso.

This is how "Tracy" talks to member who received one of those fine QSC vials and shared pics last weekend. No remorse, won't test it.
If you want to do Harm Reduction for an existing source like QSC, very established, old and widely used, it is better to police it with constructive criticism, with respect, because as the members here know very well, despite my answers and teasing, I take problems very seriously, until I solve them, whatever it takes, sometimes it's quick, sometimes it takes me longer.

Going like that against QSC like a retarded clown, with spam and hashtags, it's like attacking the state, as says the drug dealers the state always wins, you can't fight it and it won't get you anything, on the contrary, you will be less respected, even if your original idea is good or you have good intentions. Members who were way more respected than you here in Meso tried and failed, and ended up refugees in Nazi bodybuilding forums.

I never take the feedback or satisfaction of my customers for granted, on the contrary, I work much harder than most you see here, and our volume is so large that the majority if they know it will be shocked, possibly the volume of all the rest of the Meso sources combined.

If you have a problem, I have no problem resolving it, commenting on it, with respect, you come and bust my balls, you will only come out a loser.
 
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