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Yeah that's the H1B issue. The hotel maids and shit spend most of their money here, they only make so much and still have to eat.
A lot of those Indian and Chinese engineers though, making 250k but living with 3 roommates and sending most of that money out of country.
AI: In 2023, the top five remittance recipient countries were India, Mexico, China, the Philippines, and Egypt.

All those Indian super cheap IT people that come via fraudulent H1B visa programs to work here and that common people think they are “genius” but they are not. There are 3 Indian companies involved in those scams. The government knows that for decades, they apply a little fine (slap in the wrist) and everything stays as it is. Hope the Donald change that.
 
AI: In 2023, the top five remittance recipient countries were India, Mexico, China, the Philippines, and Egypt.

All those Indian super cheap IT people that come via fraudulent H1B visa programs to work here and that common people think they are “genius” but they are not. There are 3 Indian companies involved in those scams. The government knows that for decades, they apply a little fine (slap in the wrist) and everything stays as it is. Hope the Donald change that.
Funny that two of the top 3 remittance countries are those that were pushing BRICs. Individual motivations will not let that move anywhere for now, but you actually think restricting flow of dollars is the best way to prevent countries from seeking reliance on dollars?
mmkay. This the same kind of thinking that makes people assume Tariffs are some sort of income tax on exporting countries.

The H1b stuff isn't really germane to this discussion lol. Citizens still remit. Green card holders remit. H1b fraud is a completely different issue.
It's also pretty rich to hear folks complain about H1b abuse but the USCIS gladly accepts multiple petitions and filings for the same people. There is a reason even them didn't make issues like multiple/duplicate filings illegal. the USCIS profits massively. Whether application is denied or not, they make bank. Capitalism. :cool:
 
They’re going to get talking points and sound bites that don’t capture more than a single step of cause and effect.

"Brown people bad!"

"WOOWOO."

Speaking of single step cause and effect. I continue be surprised at the inability of the general population to exercise second order reasoning. I consider this a fundamental shortcoming.... In myself, not the general population.
 
All those Indian super cheap IT people that come via fraudulent H1B visa programs

What? Fraudulent?

common people think they are “genius” but they are not

"Genius" implies a greater intellectual capacity. Putting aside a skewing of the mean likely as a result of nutritional deficiency in a portion of the population, I suspect Indians fall just about the same as folks in the US with regard to intellectual capability.

What they do have is a more advanced education. Like it or not, the average Indian gets a much stronger STEM education than one might find in the US. With regard to "fraudulent" H1Bs, I've never seen any evidence of this. One could point at the entire system and offer the opinion that it is corrupt in the sense that US corporations have lobbied very heavily to preserve it in an effort yield sufficient labor supply in the US to keep salaries under control.

Ultimately, the question is whether the increased labor supply yields enough economic activity to provide a net benefit. Probably, but I'm not sure.

In any case, folks in the US suffer at the hands of corporations as a result of the increased labor pool.
 
There is fraud in H1B, it’s due to inaccurate self reporting from individual. It’s not so common that it’s worth giving it much attention tho, the attention on it is fueled by xenophobia.

If someone loses their job to an unskilled foreign worker who lied on their application and complains about it they probably had a unrealistic sense of their value to society
 
What? Fraudulent?



"Genius" implies a greater intellectual capacity. Putting aside a skewing of the mean likely as a result of nutritional deficiency in a portion of the population, I suspect Indians fall just about the same as folks in the US with regard to intellectual capability.

What they do have is a more advanced education. Like it or not, the average Indian gets a much stronger STEM education than one might find in the US. With regard to "fraudulent" H1Bs, I've never seen any evidence of this. One could point at the entire system and offer the opinion that it is corrupt in the sense that US corporations have lobbied very heavily to preserve it in an effort yield sufficient labor supply in the US to keep salaries under control.

Ultimately, the question is whether the increased labor supply yields enough economic activity to provide a net benefit. Probably, but I'm not sure.

In any case, folks in the US suffer at the hands of corporations as a result of the increased labor pool.

Purely anecdotal but I was a prof for a while. Grad courses IT/Bus. My experience with Indians is their STEM skills are actually rather low even though their groups made up a good 10% of students. The problem became evident when you ventured outside the box. In other words, what I suspect is happening, is India focuses too much on memorization and not critical thinking in STEM. This is also true for middle eastern students (I had lots of Saudi's) and Chinese students.

So in other words, if I asked a question with a straight forward answer, like whats the time complexity of this or the implement a basic x tree, then they are on top of that shit. But the second I throw a wrench into it, like asking them to implement a structure based on provided data that had some sort of pattern, they had no clue. Critical thinking was not there. Not just that, but some groups who struggled with critical thinking actually had the gall to call those questions unfair asking me to remove them. I had a few Chinese students ask me why they need to know this or that if they plan to be "programmers" (lol). I had to, calmly... explain to them this is what the real world looks like. Interestingly Indian students never complained... but they sure did cheat a lot even when they could have passed without.

Now obviously there were always exceptions. In fact my brightest student was this Arabic dude (Libya if memory serves me) who just got it. He ended up working for Huawei. I had a couple of amazing Indian students as well, one at FB and another at MSFT. Brazilians surprised me and were on par with Americans and Europeans minus the confidence. Americans and Europeaons were as expected as long as they werent party animals... which were many unfortunately...

Good times. What did this have to do with QSC? /shrug
 
Purely anecdotal but I was a prof for a while. Grad courses IT/Bus. My experience with Indians is their STEM skills are actually rather low even though their groups made up a good 10% of students. The problem became evident when you ventured outside the box. In other words, what I suspect is happening, is India focuses too much on memorization and not critical thinking in STEM. This is also true for middle eastern students (I had lots of Saudi's) and Chinese students.

So in other words, if I asked a question with a straight forward answer, like whats the time complexity of this or the implement a basic x tree, then they are on top of that shit. But the second I throw a wrench into it, like asking them to implement a structure based on provided data that had some sort of pattern, they had no clue. Critical thinking was not there. Not just that, but some groups who struggled with critical thinking actually had the gall to call those questions unfair asking me to remove them. I had a few Chinese students ask me why they need to know this or that if they plan to be "programmers" (lol). I had to, calmly... explain to them this is what the real world looks like. Interestingly Indian students never complained... but they sure did cheat a lot even when they could have passed without.

Now obviously there were always exceptions. In fact my brightest student was this Arabic dude (Libya if memory serves me) who just got it. He ended up working for Huawei. I had a couple of amazing Indian students as well, one at FB and another at MSFT. Brazilians surprised me and were on par with Americans and Europeans minus the confidence. Americans and Europeaons were as expected as long as they werent party animals... which were many unfortunately...

Good times. What did this have to do with QSC? /shrug
Rote learning is a well known issue in India and something many people are trying to change. I agree it’s the whole reason Indian guys come off as stupid to Americans. They’ve never been taught critical thinking skills. I suspect much of the opposition is from people who benefit from regular Indians not having critical thinking skills

 
What? Fraudulent?

With regard to "fraudulent" H1Bs, I've never seen any evidence of this.

 
There is fraud in H1B, it’s due to inaccurate self reporting from individual. It’s not so common that it’s worth giving it much attention tho, the attention on it is fueled by xenophobia.

If someone loses their job to an unskilled foreign worker who lied on their application and complains about it they probably had a unrealistic sense of their value to society
Xenophobia my ass
 
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