Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[kaizoku]

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[Zarioh]

Can some smart tell me, for how long can HGH and BPC157/Tb500 be stored in room temp? Does one hold better in room temp than the other?

 

[PlanetFatness]

Why should I try Tren Hex rather than E?

 

[Lil_swole87]

Tracy says they have a huge stockpile of raws.

All I can suggest is if what you want is available today, and you don't need to miss a mortgage payment to buy it, just get it. Then whether it's available or not in the future is irrelevant.

Sounds great it just have to great here safely

 

[Ghoul]

Can some smart tell me, for how long can HGH and BPC157/Tb500 be stored in room temp? Does one hold better in room temp than the other?

No one can say for sure. However:

Unreconstituted, kept out of light, both will degrade slowly at room temp.

Reconstituted both will degrade much more quickly at room temp.

If I had to travel and take them unreconstituted for a week or two, I wouldn't lose much sleep,

Reconstituted, at room temp, I wouldn't want to use either after a couple of days, and even then, use a .2um pes syringe filter before injecting.

 

[Ghoul]

Sounds great it just have to great here safely

The one thing you don't see here are lots of "I didn't receive my order" complaints. Other issue, yes, but not getting your order isn't one of them. You've got 3300 pages of history to go by.

 

[Kermit]

No one can say for sure. However:

Unreconstituted, kept out of light, both will degrade slowly at room temp.

Reconstituted both will degrade much more quickly at room temp.

If I had to travel and take them unreconstituted for a week or two, I wouldn't lose much sleep,

Reconstituted, at room temp, I wouldn't want to use either after a couple of days, and even then, use a .2um pes syringe filter before injecting.

Norditropin , Mounjaro - I don't know their exact composition and what stabilizer they use, but the shelf life is impressive.

 

[JG91]

Yep.
I messaged prior asking plan but no response.
Have 1 domestic not shipped - need 27us extra but won't take less then 50.
1 returned in china apparently cause they used cp.
And 3rd promo that won't move yet.
Just wanted to.figure out best option because of the 27 vs 60.
But 27 plus 15 is a huge cost for shipping.

I got fucked over on a domestic order from a different vendor because I ordered prior to the strike.

Canadians should just avoid ordering anything if we can until this garbage is over. I’ve never been more anti union lmao.

 

[Ghoul]

Norditropin , Mounjaro - I don't know their exact composition and what stabilizer they use, but the shelf life is impressive.

Yep, it's all down to sterilization using radiation after they're in their final container, preventing bacteria "eating" the protein, and a careful choice of excipients that control degradation by preventing oxidation, formation of aggregates, and most importantly, controlling PH. A small difference from the correct PH can speed up degradation of peptides by 10x.

Using the correct reconstitution ratio is
another big factor. Too concentrated, something many people do unwittingly thinking it doesn't matter speeds up the formation of contaminants that both weaken the potency of the peptide, and cause other problems by triggering the immune system.

Done correctly, for instance, pharma Semaglutide and Tirz, reconstituted in pens, lasts for 2 years inside the fridge without significant degradation, and a month at room temp.

Here's the formula for Serostim:




vs Norditropin, which comes reconstituted requiring more protection:




Here are the consequences of contamination, primarily degradation after manufacture, of various pharma HGH formulations. The antibodies result in an increasing loss of effectiveness of the GH over time, because your immune system develops the ability to clear it from your system.



Filtration, especially immediately prior to injection can reduce antibody inducing contaminants significantly, lessening side effects and the potential of the peptide losing efficacy over time.

 

[Here2Learn]

Tracy, any COA for the TA-1 10mg domestic? It wasn’t linked on the price sheet.

 

[narta]

True, the exchange could pull an FTX and close or fail. However, I keep it in one of the more reliable ones and I don't ever put in more than I could afford to lose. Just enough if I wanted to place an immediate order for something I need at a reasonable price point.

FTX was pretty fucking reliable before it bankrupt.

ALWAYS self custody. On chain transfers are pretty much instant.

Ledger->transaction wallet->vendor

 

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[Juggy3838]

email or whatsapp?

I also have a unreplied WhatsApp order

 

[Canuck83]

I got fucked over on a domestic order from a different vendor because I ordered prior to the strike.

Canadians should just avoid ordering anything if we can until this garbage is over. I’ve never been more anti union lmao.

It's very frustrating. Canada is turning into a third world country fast

 

[Zarioh]

No one can say for sure. However:

Unreconstituted, kept out of light, both will degrade slowly at room temp.

Reconstituted both will degrade much more quickly at room temp.

If I had to travel and take them unreconstituted for a week or two, I wouldn't lose much sleep,

Reconstituted, at room temp, I wouldn't want to use either after a couple of days, and even then, use a .2um pes syringe filter before injecting.

Thank you, I should have mentioned I meant unreconstituted. I actually thought QSC would store them at room temp since they have so much in stock? So 3 months unreconstituted in room temp is probably a bad idea? Does BPC/Tb500 last longer than hgh unreconstituted at room temp?

 

[Ghoul]

Thank you, I should have mentioned I meant unreconstituted. I actually thought QSC would store them at room temp since they have so much in stock? So 3 months unreconstituted in room temp is probably a bad idea? Does BPC/Tb500 last longer than hgh unreconstituted at room temp?

Peptide is a category as broad as "food". Room temp degradation will differ radically not only from peptide to peptide, but batch to batch.

How long will an apple last at room temp vs a fish? Both will last longer in the cold and dark.

As far as how QSC stores their peptides, I'd like to imagine at the closest to 0 degradation temp of -80c, but I doubt it. Often Jano tests of products shipped to customers show at least a few points of degradation, though how much is from storage and how much is unavoidable shipping temps is hard to say.

I advise buying peptides in the winter(to minimize degradation), and AAS oils in the summer (to avoid crashing).

 

[Zarioh]

Peptide is a category as broad as "food". Room temp degradation will differ radically not only from peptide to peptide, but batch to batch.

How long will an apple last at room temp vs a fish? Both will last longer in the cold and dark.

As far as how QSC stores their peptides, I'd like to imagine at the closest to 0 degradation temp of -80c, but I doubt it. Often Jano tests of products shipped to customers show at least a few points of degradation, though how much is from storage and how much is unavoidable shipping temps is hard to say.

I advise buying peptides in the winter(to minimize degradation), and AAS oils in the summer (to avoid crashing).

Thank you, I see there are no clear answer on this other than refrigerate is the best option for sure.

 

[Ghoul]

Thank you, I see there are no clear answer on this other than refrigerate is the best option for sure.

Well, here's as close to a "clear" answer as you can get to "protecting your peptide investment"

At -80c and lower, they'll last longer than you will.

 

[Kermit]

Yep, it's all down to sterilization using radiation after they're in their final container, preventing bacteria "eating" the protein, and a careful choice of excipients that control degradation by preventing oxidation, formation of aggregates, and most importantly, controlling PH. A small difference from the correct PH can speed up degradation of peptides by 10x.

Using the correct reconstitution ratio is
another big factor. Too concentrated, something many people do unwittingly thinking it doesn't matter speeds up the formation of contaminants that both weaken the potency of the peptide, and cause other problems by triggering the immune system.

Done correctly, for instance, pharma Semaglutide and Tirz, reconstituted in pens, lasts for 2 years inside the fridge without significant degradation, and a month at room temp.

Here's the formula for Serostim:


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vs Norditropin, which comes reconstituted requiring more protection:

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Here are the consequences of contamination, primarily degradation after manufacture, of various pharma HGH formulations. The antibodies result in an increasing loss of effectiveness of the GH over time, because your immune system develops the ability to clear it from your system.

View attachment 305398

Filtration, especially immediately prior to injection can reduce antibody inducing contaminants significantly, lessening side effects and the potential of the peptide losing efficacy over time.

It's funny, I never thought that sterilization using gamma radiation was so important in this case. I didn't even think about it. Thank you. I'll know.

 

[Ghoul]

It's funny, I never thought that sterilization using gamma radiation was so important in this case. I didn't even think about it. Thank you. I'll know.

It's just one of the "details" attended to by pharma, and just another machine in the assembly line that doesn't add much cost to the process. Obviously unattainable to UGL. Even the selection of container materials plays a measurable role in degradation.

However, the biggies are really PH and reconstitution ratio, both factors within UGL and our control, but largely ignored.