Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

Well, the politics gotta tic whilst the agenda agends. Then when many are brought to tears and cry, you get crisis! Only then can the actors act on the actionable...


All the big "legit" China vendors shipping to the US have voluntarily subjected themselves to the CBPs trials of the upcoming de minimus crackdown.

TLDR, instead of a little bit of vague info submitted to customs before a container with 10,000 small packs arrives, so customs can decide in advance to let the whole thing through, which happens 99% of the time, or detain it to inspect specific "red flagged packs", the new regime will require 50+ pieces of data about each small package, including the shipping company verifying the actual shipper, and the actual recipient.

They believe that extensive data, along with AI analysis will allow them to pick up on patterns and easily narrow down which packs are suspicious, and detain containers to look at those.

It's a strategy to reduce the amount of "inspectable" imports and allow packs from proven, trusted shippers through without wasting resources.

Any time a random inspection finds falsified data, they'll levy huge fines against the shipping company, so that's going to pressure shippers to "know their customer".

If any "trusted" vendor allows contraband to be mixed in with their packs, they'll no longer be trusted, and all their stuff will be flagged for inspection, making that vendor toxic to shipping companies who don't want their containers detained.

Note in the article Shein says they want to help customs identify "legitimate small parcels" like theirs, and distinguish them from illegitimate small parcels, like ours.

 
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They believe that extensive data, along with AI analysis will allow them to pick up on patterns and easily narrow down which packs are suspicious, and detain containers to look at those.

I've worked on several IT projects in the past where AI systems were sandwiched in-between existing large scale processes and it never goes as planned. Usually it takes months to make tweaks to the models or full re-training on updated datasets. In two of the projects, the AI systems were pulled because the disruption to revenue generating systems was starting to impact 3rd party customers down the chain with contractual SLAs. Many fines were levied and paid out.

I suspect a lot of legit packages are going to get flagged and held up in customs. It's going to be a complete shit show for sellers on Ebay, Amazon, etc.
 
I've worked on several IT projects in the past where AI systems were sandwiched in-between existing large scale processes and it never goes as planned. Usually it takes months to make tweaks to the models or full re-training on updated datasets. In two of the projects, the AI systems were pulled because the disruption to revenue generating systems was starting to impact 3rd party customers down the chain with contractual SLAs. Many fines were levied and paid out.

Customs is pretty good at using data to narrow down what and who they'll look closely at. "Random inspections" at the borders or airports are never truly random. They've been hampered by this huge volume of packs from China and the very vague data supplied to them prior to arrival.

They already sent a message earlier this year. They picked 6 containers from 6 logistics companies. They compared the paperwork with the small packs, All 6 were suspended from participating in expedited customs clearance, costing them tens of millions of dollars.

And that's with the old data standards.

The risk to these huge logistics companies if they let some sketchy entity ship stuff in their containers is enormous, and they'll be certain to "self police" so that anything getting into their stream of packs is coming from a known entity who's providing accurate data.

The amount of money potentially lost by being suspended for one day is far greater than the profit made in shipping fees from every package all the UGLs have sent in the last decade. It's nothing to them and they don't want the business of contraband shippers. Every UGL here has gotten caught at some point and had to find a new shipping company.

Then add in the other purpose. Each US resident has a de minimus limit ($800/day right now), that's going to be drastically lowered. Amounts over the limit will be charged customs duty (like the old days). That can't be done without tracking who's getting what, and how much it costs. It's worth tens of billions a year in revenue for the government. They have an effectively unlimited budget to make it work.
 
A friend I referred to Tracy is in the same boat. A few kits of GH sitting in "Customs Inspection" since the 16th. A first for me with Tracy. I had a pack of Indian Pharma in customs for 21 days that finally was released and delivered. Seems strange so many are reporting inspections from the same days. Wondering if that shipping line has been nuked?
 
Yes, within the last week. It was in customs for 4 days before release.
Same here.
Mine spent 4-5 days in “customs inspection” then one day just showed “released”
Then a few more days to be picked up from another carrier. This was in ny. Now it’s riding around somewhere waiting to be put in the hands of usps according to the tracking
 
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Same here.
Mine spent 4-5 days in “customs inspection” then one day just showed “released”
Then a few more days to be picked up from another carrier. This was in ny. Now it’s riding around somewhere waiting to be put in the hands of usps according to the tracking
Hoping for the best. Been in customs for 8 days. I mean it happens but strange so many at once.
 
You guys really panic way too quick. It’s literally Christmas Eve, Chill. Some of you guys aren’t cut out for int. mail. Fuckin 8 days in customs lol. Yeah real strange, especially around Christmas! lol seriously
It's not that we're not cut out for it....just alot has been happening with the China busts. That's all but you're right. Overseas shit used to take 2 months with no communication...and then it'd end up at the door. Just seeing ANYTHING customs is worrisome that's All
 
You guys really panic way too quick. It’s literally Christmas Eve, Chill. Some of you guys aren’t cut out for int. mail. Fuckin 8 days in customs lol. Yeah real strange, especially around Christmas! lol seriously
Ok settle down. It's not even my pack. I have literally no skin in the game. Just an observation that it is strange so many people are reporting similar. I am sure the demand is enormous right now.
 

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