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Just received an order of test cyp from the November pre-sale. It's clear liquid though. All vials are crashed of course due to temp but was the carrier oil changed or something? Every other batch was yellowish.
newest batch i got are clear as water (metaphorically speaking, obviously it's oil though lol), where as my old batch I am using is indeed yellow color (think canola oil).
 
Time to leave my feedback: I received my first Xmas promo order (HGH 24iu grey top and HCG). It took 16 days from payment to my door, which is very fast shipping for an international package considering the holidays. Everything was well packaged, no complaints. Communication via WhatsApp was minimal, but they provided the tracking number on their own, so I didn’t even have to ask. My first experience with QSC was very positive.

I’m waiting for my second order, which is already at customs. Interestingly, the first order cleared customs faster than it was picked up by USPS. I hope everyone else gets their orders soon as well.
 
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Time to leave my feedback: I received my first Xmas promo order (HGH 24iu grey top and HCG). It took 16 days from payment to my door, which is very fast shipping for an international package considering the holidays. Everything was well packaged, no complaints. Communication via WhatsApp was minimal, but they provided the tracking number on their own, so I didn’t even have to ask. My first experience with QSC was very positive.

P.S. Could someone advise me about HCG? I know it’s very fragile. The powder in the vial looks like it’s smeared: part of it is at the bottom, while some is on the walls or even at the top of the vial. Could that have affected the HCG? Or does it only matter once it’s reconstituted and not in its powder form?

In lyophilized form peptides/proteins are not physically fragile (they're still susceptible to degradation from temperature and light exposure).

Once reconstituted, sharp shocks can induce fluid cavitation that can cause damage (usually aggregate formation). It can also knock peptides that have "adsorbed" to vial walls loose and back into solution which you don't want, since the adsorption process damages them.

TLDR: Don't drop vials of reconstituted solution or subject them to sharp knocks.
 
In lyophilized form peptides/proteins are not physically fragile (they're still susceptible to degradation from temperature and light exposure).

Once reconstituted, sharp shocks can induce fluid cavitation that can cause damage (usually aggregate formation). It can also knock peptides that have "adsorbed" to vial walls loose and back into solution which you don't want, since the adsorption process damages them.

TLDR: Don't drop vials of reconstituted solution or subject them to sharp knocks.
Thank you so much for the detailed response - once again, everything is clear and to the point.
 
In lyophilized form peptides/proteins are not physically fragile (they're still susceptible to degradation from temperature and light exposure).

Once reconstituted, sharp shocks can induce fluid cavitation that can cause damage (usually aggregate formation). It can also knock peptides that have "adsorbed" to vial walls loose and back into solution which you don't want, since the adsorption process damages them.

TLDR: Don't drop vials of reconstituted solution or subject them to sharp knocks.
So can i stop angling my needles to have bac water hit side of vials and not the puck?

It feels unnatural. Like I should be aiming my stream right at the center of puck. But we've been told, ad nauseam, that whatever we do never point your stream right at the puck.

Or feed gizmo after midnight.

Or step on a crack.
 
So can i stop angling my needles to have bac water hit side of vials and not the puck?

It feels unnatural. Like I should be aiming my stream right at the center of puck. But we've been told, ad nauseam, that whatever we do never point your stream right at the puck.

Or feed gizmo after midnight.

Or step on a crack.

It's not the force of the water that's the problem, which I used to think, but formation of bubbles. Using a vented needle actually does more to prevent this than aiming at the side of the glass. Or better yet, use a needle specifically designed for reconstituting protein drugs:

"Gas/water interfaces (such as air bubbles or foam) are detrimental to the stability of proteins, often causing aggregation. This represents a potential problem for industrial processes, for example, the production and handling of protein drugs"

Aggregation, at best, wastes peptide, because in aggregate form they don't work the way they're supposed to, and at worst, cause any number of undesirable effects from PIP to developing an immunity to the peptide.


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Test C arrives and it’s crashed. No big deal—I’ve dealt with crashed gear before from DP and the Pharmacy through my clinic. However, Q’s is different. It has a gelatin-like consistency, whereas the others were more crystallized. ???
 
Test C arrives and it’s crashed. No big deal—I’ve dealt with crashed gear before from DP and the Pharmacy through my clinic. However, Q’s is different. It has a gelatin-like consistency, whereas the others were more crystallized. ???

It's normal. I've had test-c from DP gelled up like that too. Just uncrash the way you normally would. Or bake in a 160-170f oven for 20-30 minutes and it'll be good to go.
 
Since i am expecting to see the same thing when mine lands, is the recommendation to uncrash all at once or do it as needed or does it make a difference?
I have no idea if it matters. I just do it all at once because I don't want to store it crashed. Sometimes one or two will be crash again and it just means you didn't leave it on the coffee pot long enough. The second time I put everything on there for about 5 minutes and it has stayed uncrashed. I just shake it up real good and I do not remove the caps or the tops or anything.
 
hey guys, wanted to ask if the us domestic QSC igf, hcg, hmg, and hgh comes with labels on vials now, I saw a testing image from janoshik where it was labeled QSC on the vial. I remember they used to only have SKU number with no labels on them. thanks.
 
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I have no idea if it matters. I just do it all at once because I don't want to store it crashed. Sometimes one or two will be crash again and it just means you didn't leave it on the coffee pot long enough. The second time I put everything on there for about 5 minutes and it has stayed uncrashed. I just shake it up real good and I do not remove the caps or the tops or anything.
Thanks for the info
 
Test C arrives and it’s crashed. No big deal—I’ve dealt with crashed gear before from DP and the Pharmacy through my clinic. However, Q’s is different. It has a gelatin-like consistency, whereas the others were more crystallized. ???
It turns that way when it's fully crashed, Test C will start to fall out more crystal like but when it's sits for too long it will do this.
 
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