Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[PiscesMoon]

I don't know that this is the best place to discuss this because it's not about QSC, but GYC has been the most open about the zero pep situation and releasing testing results. From what I understand there are other companies that have been impacted but they've trying to handle things quietly. No clue if this has had any impact on QSC and we won't know without testing.

Is there already a thread?

We don't have a thread for it... yet.

 

[Proud_papa_pump]

The plot thickens! Apparently several companies have legal authority to <do something> with Tirz.

Does anyone know if that’s to manufacture, market, sell, or administer it? Some of them are Chinese.

Not sure if this is the answer, but the understanding I’ve gotten from Pharmacist threads is that there are many FDA-approved API(active pharmaceutical ingredient) manufacturers for Tirzepatide. Eli Lilly will say they are the only licensed “supplier”, but they don’t say who the actual manufacturer of the raw powder is.

 

[readalot]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/18/business/mexico-china-industry-trump-tariffs/index.html

Many similarities in this thread and the members who patronized QSC with American consumers who value price above all else. In the end, what's the answer for humans, society, and the economy?

 

[Mads]

From US or europe police ?

Danish

 

[bigMoJo]

Ism sorry big guy this is the article I read. Yhey are different... my bad... ambien. ....

https://www.statnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Lilly-ITC-complaint.pdf

Please forgive me

Of course bro, no worries.

There was a lot of good articles posted, easy to get them mixed, especially in Ambien

 

[Letits now]

Is there a list somewhere of the vendors who tested 0 or bad? I checked discord and I found 1 vendor sent out bunk vials and there people are trying to piece together vial top colors and using the typeset/spelling/character spacing of the box labels to try and see where it came from.

Try the Swiss discord

 

[mok4315]

So I tried answering the “other vendors with 0 COA’s” question, but am unable to post the names without getting flagged for moderator approval. Can anyone tell me why I can’t post vendor names and social platform words here? I’ve seen a lot of you doing it, so is it just a matter of fighting the next boss to level up like we do for the emoji react button?

 

[Grey Spartan]

So I tried answering the “other vendors with 0 COA’s” question, but am unable to post the names without getting flagged for moderator approval. Can anyone tell me why I can’t post vendor names and social platform words here? I’ve seen a lot of you doing it, so is it just a matter of fighting the next boss to level up like we do for the emoji react button?

I found it is hit or miss with the "moderator approval" flag.

 

[glpfun]

I’d probably hold off on trying to source raws from
China atm, I understand the impulse to stockpile but none of the vendors are really making me feel confident it would arrive.

 

[Swolemates365]

Still in customs with no letter. Dec 20

 

[narta]

So I tried answering the “other vendors with 0 COA’s” question, but am unable to post the names without getting flagged for moderator approval. Can anyone tell me why I can’t post vendor names and social platform words here? I’ve seen a lot of you doing it, so is it just a matter of fighting the next boss to level up like we do for the emoji react button?

AI moderation is dumb

 

[SpaceGhost]

I don't know that this is the best place to discuss this because it's not about QSC, but GYC has been the most open about the zero pep situation and releasing testing results. From what I understand there are other companies that have been impacted but they've trying to handle things quietly. No clue if this has had any impact on QSC and we won't know without testing.

Is there already a thread?

It's honestly surprising how well they've handled it. They're still lying about how it happened, but I expected them to close up shop and come back in a month or two under a new name.

 

[FastBun]

Bruv…lmao w/tracy gone all the vets comin out the shadows… never seen so many…

 

[Here2Learn]

Bruv…lmao w/tracy gone all the vets comin out the shadows… never seen so many…

Makes sense, everyone is having to vet new sources. I love the contributions from many of them though.

 

[iris]

Hmmmm
Not quite

 

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

IF Q comes back, we need to hold his feet to the fire regarding testing his raws. 86% on Tren E is absolutely unacceptable and pure laziness on their end.

I've heard complaints about bad tren e and tren ace raws over the last few years. A lot of them end up heavily oxidized final produce that turns really dark..others have yellow powder fall out of solution.

But considering how painful a lot of test enanthate raws out of china are, it's no surprise. Everything is cheap but it's hardly perfect. There's been a significant move toward using test cyp instead because not many people can tolerate test enanthate made with Chinese raws.

 

[glpfun]

I've heard complaints about bad tren e and tren ace raws over the last few years. A lot of them end up heavily oxidized final produce that turns really dark..others have yellow powder fall out of solution.

But considering how painful a lot of test enanthate raws out of china are, it's no surprise. Everything is cheap but it's hardly perfect. There's been a significant move toward using test cyp instead because not many people can tolerate test enanthate made with Chinese raws.

I was just talking about this with someone, why would anyone choose test e over c when it’s just like more pain and nearly identical pharmacokinetics. It sounds like this is a recent phenomenon with Chinese raws?

 

[readalot]

I was just talking about this with someone, why would anyone choose test e over c when it’s just like more pain and nearly identical pharmacokinetics. It sounds like this is a recent phenomenon with Chinese raws?

I am very curious to understand the PIP mechanism with Chinese Test E ugl raws. The -ene situation doesn't seem to explain it as that was shown to be an issue with TC and TE based on data we have in hand. Still have to confirm with reference standard to say definitively.

 

[Swolemates365]

I was just talking about this with someone, why would anyone choose test e over c when it’s just like more pain and nearly identical pharmacokinetics. It sounds like this is a recent phenomenon with Chinese raws?

Because Test C doesn’t compound as much as E. There is a limit to how much Test C compounds in itself in the body. There was a study Vigorous Steve talks about on his podcast. Also test E holds better at a higher Mg per ml. The main benefit to C is it’s easier for subQ shots apparently but I’ll stick IM where the muscles have more blood vessels.

 

[LGOP528]

I was just talking about this with someone, why would anyone choose test e over c when it’s just like more pain and nearly identical pharmacokinetics. It sounds like this is a recent phenomenon with Chinese raws?

I stayed away from e because of all the talk about pip on here. I ended up getting a small about of raws for blends and trying it just for shits and giggles. I liked the higher concentrations to allow more room in the syringe for other compounds. I never got any pip but I inject deep and try to use an air lock to stop any subQ leaking.