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Ghoul
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They said it was a suspension. Likely to figure out how to process Chinese mail like small packs in cargo containers in accordance with Biden's exec order that went into effect.
For a minute it looked like China mail, vs packs in shipping containers like Yunexpress, were actually going to be a workaround and not subjected to greater scrutiny. CBP commented on this a week ago.
They saw the new loophole, and closed it before it could open.
Appreciate the update (doesnt change my opinion on the government a whole lot though )...so are they actually going to let packs slide again? And, if so, how are they going to pick up the tariff money since the de minimus has been suspended? I cant see them holding 1.6 billion packs waiting for the tariff to be paid...cod maybe? This is going to be an interesting shake out.
Ghoul
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I wouldn't want to give anyone false hope, but since this is being done executively, they don't have to start collecting tariffs immediately. There's no hard deadline date in law.
There are multiple elements to implementing this. The first and most critical is accurate data in customs declarations. Preciously a vague abbreviated description like "t-shirt" could be used. (these are all numerical codes). Now it has to be "t-shirt, dyed, cotton of egyptian origin, final assembly China". Also a verified sender ID and a legit US recipient must be specified, which CBP says they will verify.
My guess is they will spend time enforcing this first, and issue big fines to shippers who have inaccurately identified packs, to "train" them to police themselves and be choosy who they accept packs from.
By the time they get the system in place to start applying tariffs, there will very likely be some degree of de minimus exemption allowed, like $200 or something.
A lot of stuff is shipped de minimus that shouldn't be. Like commercial goods and factory supplies. This was a system meant for small gifts and tourists sending souvenirs home.
Once a lot of that crap gets pushed into the regular commercial shipping systems, there will be far fewer packs, a stated goal of CBP, with a more strict data system in place, making it all easier to surveil and control.
So I think there might be a small window as all this ramps incrementally where packs may get through, but if there is, based on us seeing them actually land, I'd jump on it immediately because don't think it'll last long. Maybe a couple of months. After that, vendors will almost certainly have to use an entirely different way, my guess is they'll be smuggling it in bulk somehow and selling domestically,
Astartes
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Brother, I hope I’m reading this wrong.
If not you are a smart guy but sometimes I think your lack of impulse control and desire to argue leads you to make poor assumptions and interpret things incorrectly.
You first point I agree with with. 100 percent. Hormones are collateral damage. Primary focus is narcotics with fentanyl being #1.
Hope you aren’t referring to me when talking about gaslighting and integrity.
The rest of what you said is a bit muddled, and I don’t want to comment on something I may misinterpret and further what may be misunderstanding.
Irregardless my message is directed at us as a community. We need to stop bemoaning this and cowboy up a bit. I’m over the whining.
While I enjoy being a hypocrite and getting cheap illicit hormones, my desire to see our country improve dramatically and corruption driven out of government (I’m a small government tough on crime guy) outweighs my desire to benefit from bloated government and corrupt politicians that allow drugs to flow unabated across our border despite unenforced policy.
If it all was directed at me. Go easy.
You (sometimes) use such harsh language and vitriolic attacks it detracts from any real point you have made and candidly lowers your credibility and the respect the community has for you.
If that doesn’t matter to you. Do you boo
Astartes
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Correct.
The Suspension has been suspended bruh
I'm guessing someone made a foolish decision trying to impress the Big man and common sense later prevailed. There is nothing that could have been solidly achieved in the 8 hrs that announcement was made. China didn't even have time to announce a counter measure. I'm guessing the thought of the massive backlog made sense prevail
dont worry guys, there will not be any issues with our shipments from china etc. there is always a way to do it. the way is to pay the extra 2-3$ then all is good. you can read about it aswell. it is only the new president that wants to mess things up all over the world. comeon
We don't really need to so given to defending actions that aren't smart. The abrupt suspension is complete foolishness regardless of who is responsible for the decision. All this talk of oh the Dems wanted this means nothing. There were a million and 1 things the Dems wanted that has been tossed by this admin, so why go hyper on this one? It was going to cause a headache and they walked back on the foolishness to have a better plan on how to do this.
FYI as I said many weeks ago, Fentanyl deaths are crashing. Unfortunately someone in this admin felt it was a good Idea to freeze public health information so we cannot have the latest numbers, but yes, Whatever was being done was gradually working. How does freezing packs from china actually stop what you claim comes in mainly from mexico?
Anyway, it's all moot now. Time to splurge on reta and check out before another decision is made to ban import of all compounds in Vials
FYI as I said many weeks ago, Fentanyl deaths are crashing. Unfortunately someone in this admin felt it was a good Idea to freeze public health information so we cannot have the latest numbers, but yes, Whatever was being done was gradually working. How does freezing packs from china actually stop what you claim comes in mainly from mexico?
Anyway, it's all moot now. Time to splurge on reta and check out before another decision is made to ban import of all compounds in Vials
LGOP528
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“This is a significant challenge for them because there were 4 million de minimis packages per day in 2024, and it is difficult to check all the packages — so it will take time,” she said.
This is about the taxes, nothing more, nothing less.
I do think all of this uncertainty increases the likelihood that if QSC comes back it will be under a new name and after the dust has settled.
Ghoul
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Enforcement requires the appropriate data. USPS is separate from the CBP and Customs has long complained that USPS hasn't provided the required information or
transferred packages to customs for inspection when requested,
When packs come in via the international mail system they don't go to Customs unless they've been requested for inspection, which relies on that data and USPS cooperation.
Just a week ago CBP noted USPS was likely going to be a loophole unless they started getting with the program, including ensuring China post provided the electronic data that's required prior to packages landing.
That likely wasn't done, and the decision was made to stop those packs until USPS ensured they would comply. They are a semi private organization, not under direct control of the feds.
CBP’s Proposed Changes to De Minimis Shipments
This week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) published two Notices of Proposed Rulemaking1 that could significantly impact and curtail the entry of low-value shipments not exceeding $800 (commonly known as de minimis shipments) that are eligible for duty-free and simplified entry...
Ghoul
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Fentanyl precursers are sent to the US, then smuggled into Mexico for manufacturing because their customs control was too strict for it to get in. Think about that.
Petarosus188
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Well Its 5th February and chinese Holidays end....we got probably robbed
How does this negate that it was a foolish decision by the USPS?Enforcement requires the appropriate data. USPS is separate from the CBP and Customs has long complained that USPS hasn't provided the required information or
transferred packages to customs for inspection when requested,
When packs come in via the international mail system they don't go to Customs unless they've been requested for inspection, which relies on that data and USPS cooperation.
Just a week ago CBP noted USPS was likely going to be a loophole unless they started getting with the program, including ensuring China post provided the electronic data that's required prior to packages landing.
That likely wasn't done, and the decision was made to stop those packs until USPS ensured they would comply. They are a semi private organization, not under direct control of the feds.
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CBP’s Proposed Changes to De Minimis Shipments
This week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) published two Notices of Proposed Rulemaking1 that could significantly impact and curtail the entry of low-value shipments not exceeding $800 (commonly known as de minimis shipments) that are eligible for duty-free and simplified entry...natlawreview.com
lol. I mean They would have to return money. UPS is ending USPS last mile already. USPS was going to have a huge dent in earnings.
SpicyMeatball
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that's some potent copium you managed to import before these bans kicked in!
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