glpfun
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Excel.exe
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i hope not
lillijadeclyde
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i wouldn't be surprised if qsc never ships the pending orders, but i highly doubt they tried pulling an exit scam. it'd be the worst exit scam ever, because tracy told people to not send anymore money, instead of doing something like putting everything in stock and on sale
MAGA
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Got myself a good stash of oils I need to blast for a good few years at the end of 2024 when shortages were being predicted. Thankfully didn't get caught in their sudden closure. Regret not stocking up with more HGH tho.
Tracy was running sales every couple weeks in the last quarter of 2024. You had to be super lazy or cash strapped to not do anything.
Ghoul
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Or listened to the "This happens every year" crowd....
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MAGA
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oh man, those guys. So smug and smarter than everyone . You snooze you lose
Yeah I failed to stock up on anything unfortunately. Well, except NPP of all things. I shoulda got a cryofreezer and a slew of peptides when things were flowing smoothly but I didn’t. I’m ok buying HGH and Tirzepatide elsewhere but QSC was GOAT at random peptides for cheap.
And yeah, there kits of most oils were pretty awesome too. Not the best quality gears but good enough. Especially considering price.
glpfun
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The random peptides was just turning people into lab rats for no benefit. I see people using peptides with almost no research and no safety profile behind them when well researched alternatives already exist. People are treating these peptides that never made it to market as some big pharma conspiracy but we already saw that big pharma has no problem selling peptides. Some of the discords I was in people were on these 10-15 peptide cocktails espousing the benefits like they knew.
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Ghoul
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This is always my first thought with any pharma product that made it passed costly initial development. and was canned when testing started.
Pharma is never required to report problems or dangers discovered during the development process. The FDA helps keep these issues confidential as they'd negatively affect the business.
The public only sees the polished finished product once it starts trials, and even then, somebody dies, they can close up and never report the details publicly.
80% of peptide drugs fail in late stages of development.
People don't realize the intense scrutiny these protein drugs must be put under because of the potential consequences.
"In silico" testing, where they predict every potential thing that can go wrong, degradation, aggregation, manufacturing by products, and each of those contaminants is checked to estimate its potential harm.
If one thing changes, 1 degree of temperature in the manufacturing room, a different stopper material in the vial, it's got to be checked again for potentially new proteins that can form.
AAS are like bricks, these are microchips by comparison.
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chmuse
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One of the current dramas in the peptide world is how a seller got their hands on this peptide everyone wanted, but no one else was willing to sell. Turns out it's because it degrades so terribly in transportation, and anyone who'd done any amount of research should have realized this. Instead everyone is out money and everyone's pissed about it.
Sometimes there's no researching happening at all, just "this person I see posting a lot says it's great, so now I want to try it!"
Ghoul
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100%.
Every time I hear "fillers" (it's "excipient ingredients" and their presence or. lack thereof is nearly as important as the peptide) reminds me how little folks understand about all the things that matter besides a "purity" test, and that the other "impurity" 1-5% of stuff in that vial isn't wholesome flakes of angel dandruff.
Look up "peptide impurity characterization" and "peptide mapping" to get a handle on just how blind we are to what's being injected.
If I said: "Inject this, it's 99% the drug you need, and 1% a mix of millions of random drug molecules, that most of the time do nothing noticeable, but we don't really know what effect they'll have", who would go for that deal?
That's the major difference with pharma peptides. They know what the impurities are, and have to confirm they're harmless to the FDA. We get peptides with completely unknown, unexamined impurities.
I say this as someone who engages in this risk taking as well, but I try to minimize it where I can.
chmuse
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I think you'd be surprised, plenty of people would take that deal to lose weight. I mean, people used to swallow tapeworm eggs. Humans can be very short sighted. (I am not excluding myself from that group.)
A couple of the testers (Jano, PT) have tried explaining that the purity percentage they provide is more of a feel-good thing, but people don't like hearing it.
Ghoul
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Sure, evolution has given us excellent defenses against eating or inhaling harmful substances, contaminants landing in open wounds. but injecting bypasses those defenses (mostly).
Ahh well, if I didn't believe the benefit outweighed the risk I wouldn't be using these things. Still, safety should improve over time as long as we're educated and demand a better product.
I'd love to seen Peptide suppliers get a handle on PH. That's so easy with the right excipients, and can slow degradation to a crawl.
glpfun
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lol wtf
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