Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

I doubt he will pay most back. It appears assuming this is all legit, he has so many sycophants he really won't even have to. I really hate to say that, but it appears to be the truth.
it wouldn't make any sense not to.

passive income investment
 
Realistically it’s probably closer to hundreds of thousands than single digit thousands.
he dosent have to pay back everything at once/refund everyone at a single time. just doing a batch of people each time will get positive reviews in here and more buyers.

heck man even not knowing if its tracy or the feds he is getting $$
 
it wouldn't make any sense not to.

passive income investment
Hey, I am all for it and I sincerely hope everyone gets a good product, is happy, refunds get paid out, and QSC starts a full return and all is good and legit. More competition is a good thing for the consumer.

That all being said, I am not going to celebrate until all the above is proven and clear and I am certainly not taking any risk when there are other options available. That probably will take a least 3 months or more for that to happen at the earliest.
 
So much $ coming in to that wallet.. should be very easy for him to have people send the email of the orders they placed that were never received and start paying people

So much $ coming in to that wallet.. should be very easy for him to have people send the email of the orders they placed that were never received and start paying people back.
I don't have my email anymore. I'm sure they have my name and address though. I wrote that off as a loss a while ago.
 
The gambling basically people are willing to do for some weird loyalty? and to save a few $ is a truly fascinating look into the human psyche.
It's always a gamble. Whether you're stuffing cash into an envelope or sending crypto hoping something comes along in the mail eventually. When that happens, it's still a gamble of what you're receiving. So, you send it to Jano and it comes back as the product you ordered. Now, these are the same people who put melamine in dog food and baby formula in 2007. How do we really know what else is in this stuff. The point is, it's all a gamble. What's your risk tolerance? I took a gamble and ordered 2 kits. Not out of misplaced loyalty to a drug dealer. I just have the disposable cash to make that bet. If I win, great. If I lose, oh well, better luck next time. Oils are very scarce right now. More opportunities for nefarious characters to slip in fakes and shitty product. If I have a chance to pick up 2 kits, stateside (don't have to worry customs) that were part of some good product batches, I'll take that bet every time.
 
Just ordered 1 kit tren a in Canada because everything else besides a nd e sold out. If it's not already sold out or whatever happens I'll keep everyone informed. Lyk if he's legit or just pulling a fast one
 
I get the impression he's just clearing out stock from January and that will be it for a long time (if this isn't a scam). There's definitely no new raws and they can't make their HGH or press tablets or lyophilize peptides with their operations in China shut down. They never sold other companies finished products like most China ugl's do
Yup I think heat for them slightly dipped down and they and clearing old stock nothing looks new and everything at least in Canada is selling fast I was gonna buy whatever test some deca or npp and then e or a and a day or two later they only had tren and like 15 kits. I ordered today 3 hours after I was told to hurry hopefully I get my shit
 
I am one of the guys that sent $1000+ for an order right before the shut down and was left deserted. Is Tracy issuing refunds or allowing those like me to let the amount as credit? I am fine either way...but the issue is that they don't have anything I want on their list atm.
 
I am one of the guys that sent $1000+ for an order right before the shut down and was left deserted. Is Tracy issuing refunds or allowing those like me to let the amount as credit? I am fine either way...but the issue is that they don't have anything I want on their list atm.

got me for a good amount too. he's clearing old stock and didn't make it right to us so I think we are cooked

nobody seems to care here until they're the ones getting scammed.

he is either paying old debts, bribes or taking the money and gonna run
 
Have you had bad experiences with QSC or know someone that has?

I don't mind paying more to make sure I get what I am paying for. But, I don't have any way of knowing how any of the UG labs compare. I've used K4L in the past with no issues. So, at least in my limited experience, they seem good.

Appreciate any advice on choosing an UG lab.

I found a recent test from an independent testing agency
Tirz seems legit.
LMAO. Um.....they shut down without fulfilling many peoples orders. Yes, the last round of orders was a very bad experience for all. Thousands if not tens of thousands unfulfilled. Yes, it is understandable. And yes, people may be made whole. But seven months later lots of bros are feeling like they had .....a bad experience.
 
got me for a good amount too. he's clearing old stock and didn't make it right to us so I think we are cooked

nobody seems to care here until they're the ones getting scammed.

he is either paying old debts, bribes or taking the money and gonna run
That's not even remotely true. Lots of us care. I just have no idea what can be done. I'm not even sure how this guy escaped the re-education camp.
 
It's interesting how many big QSC customers are being skeptical of the situation.


Meanwhile the 19 year old retards are on their knees hoping it will be test C being shot into their mouth.
I’ve said it before. If things are too hot to have your “IT company” unlock your emails and customer data so you can verify what’s owed for all the unfulfilled orders, because doing so would give authorities access, then you’re definitely not reopening under the same name. I call bullshit. Hope I’m wrong, and I’ll gladly eat my words if that’s the case.
 
LMAO. Um.....they shut down without fulfilling many peoples orders. Yes, the last round of orders was a very bad experience for all. Thousands if not tens of thousands unfulfilled. Yes, it is understandable. And yes, people may be made whole. But seven months later lots of bros are feeling like they had .....a bad experience.
Thanks. Was not aware of the history. It's a bit difficult to read 4,000 pages of posts.
 
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