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I was hopping Tracy would tell him to eat dog shit, it's clear it's no longer OG Tracy. Hope she's still alive and telling Chinese prison guards to go fuck themselves
Well there's always 3 sides to a story, each parties and then the truth. It looks like axxium is a vendor though so that's kinda shady, shitting on another vendor without disclosing theyre a vendor themselves
 
Huh who is that ? I’m not a vendor just a buyer, qsc are using shit product and I don’t even talk to this imposter known as “Tracy” and that isn’t even my telegram handle. Also that’s not the OG Tracy telegram either.

I can verify hyb product is overdosed and the hgh works flawlessly, can’t say the same about qsc cause it did nothing for me.

Dunno anything about that telegram but sounds like he’s trying to protect himself cause lots of ppl don’t like his business conduct on here. Also dues has been outta business for many months… I was a customer which I can prove I have many orders bought from them.

Someone tell that imposter Tracy to stop making up fake shit & come post from qsc which he can’t cause it’s a imposter just selling a different vendors stuff and claiming qsc. Ppl need to know facts.

Also the real Tracy would post from that account on here, it’s not even the same person…
 
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Well there's always 3 sides to a story, each parties and then the truth. It looks like axxium is a vendor though so that's kinda shady

Love or hate Tracy, we can’t judge anything by a single feels report.

99% of the time cries of “it’s bunk!” are either never substantiated with a test, or testing shows it’s properly dosed.

Show us a bad test and it’s a different story.

Otherwise it’s just a rando having a @KoreanGuy moment.
 
Love or hate Tracy, we can’t judge anything by a single feels report.

99% of the time cries of “it’s bunk!” are either never substantiated with a test, or testing shows it’s properly dosed.

Show us a bad test and it’s a different story.

Otherwise it’s just a rando having a @KoreanGuy moment.
Couldn't agree more.. If you have a claim, get it tested, if you somehow can't pay for testing, ask the community if we can crowd fund it, if it's bad product even the seller probably wants to know (and will either disappear or make it right)... Complaining and not testing is weak sauce, that's it.. This isn't amazon folks, take some ownership in what we are all doing here... Also even the best occasionally have a fluke, this is why we test, this is why we share results, this is why we crowd fund when needed, testing is critical to the community.. so no testing? just don't post either than.
 
Because you didnt feel anything? Thats why you think its bunk? You cant be serious.

Throwing out accusations like that without testing to back it up is wild.

I love GH as much as the next guy- I havr grabbed plenty of stuff from OSC recently, but until his GH kits are actually priced competitively there are other options that are more intriguing.
 
Love or hate Tracy, we can’t judge anything by a single feels report.

99% of the time cries of “it’s bunk!” are either never substantiated with a test, or testing shows it’s properly dosed.

Show us a bad test and it’s a different story.

Otherwise it’s just a rando having a @KoreanGuy moment.
I’m a professional athlete, when the results come back from the bun
Because you didnt feel anything? Thats why you think its bunk? You cant be serious.

Throwing out accusations like that without testing to back it up is wild.

I love GH as much as the next guy- I havr grabbed plenty of stuff from OSC recently, but until his GH kits are actually priced competitively there are other options that are more intriguing.
well when you run 12 iu hgh a day and go through a vial every 3 days and go through 20 vials of supposedly 36 iu and have no water retention in your hands or anything it’s kinda obvious… than I try hyb 36 hgh at 6 iu and feel tingles every morning and feet are thickening and hands..

I’m not a scientist but I do know I have good receptors and whatever the hgh qsc had was garbage compared to hyb.

Also shipping took one month qsc , 12 days with hyb.

I’m sure others can verify who have used both.. I’m just stating facts

This is what your hands should look like on good hgh…
 

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I’m a professional athlete, when the results come back from the bun

well when you run 12 iu hgh a day and go through a vial every 3 days and go through 20 vials of supposedly 36 iu and have no water retention in your hands or anything it’s kinda obvious… than I try hyb 36 hgh at 6 iu and feel tingles every morning and feet are thickening and hands..

I’m not a scientist but I do know I have good receptors and whatever the hgh qsc had was garbage compared to hyb.

Also shipping took one month qsc , 12 days with hyb.

I’m sure others can verify who have used both.. I’m just stating facts

This is what your hands should look like on good hgh…
I understand but we dont go off "feels".

Get it tested and prove it.
 
I've never had water retention. numb hands or tingles or carpal tunnel from GH. And all I've ran is opti grey, orange and gold tops. 8iu last year and 10iu now and I don't get any feels.
I did pickup 2 kits of the 36iu QSC so we'll see but I won't be using those for a while
 
Exactly. I run 8-10iu at times and never get numb hands doesn't matter what vendor
Than your not getting good hgh , everyone I know who has run good hgh anything over 7-8 iu will tingle the fuck and bloat your hands & feet.. I gained 2 shoe sizes in 3 months…

Anyways I will send this bunk qsc hgh off to prove it’s garbage.

Im a pro athlete and here on out won’t be using qsc again.
 
Because you didnt feel anything? Thats why you think its bunk? You cant be serious.

Throwing out accusations like that without testing to back it up is wild.

I love GH as much as the next guy- I havr grabbed plenty of stuff from OSC recently, but until his GH kits are actually priced competitively there are other options that are more intriguing.

It’s not that feels are meaningless, just that they’re the lowest value evidence.

If five people experienced with a compound complain a certain batch isn’t working, there’s a good chance something’s up, but it still needs to be tested to be certain.

But one? Come on…

We had a guy recently taking 12iu(of another brand). He wasn’t saying it was bunk, but had no sides and IGF was extremely low.

EVEN HIS GH TEST AFTER THE POST “IM INJECTION” PROTOCOL WAS VERY LOW.

Thats the broscience gold standard “bunk test” that was used before services like Jano.

Turned out his leptjn was high, a “starvation signaling hormone”, which crushes IGF production but also shortens GH half life, lowering expected serum GH levels by 40%.

One of many scenarios that can cause deceptive “feels”, and as this example showed, even bloodwork. That’s why you can’t use any individual report as “proof” of rHGH being bunk.

(And conversely why “I had no sides, this GH is great!”, is laughable, since pharma GH causes the same side effects, so lacking them is not a sign of high quality).
 
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Than your not getting good hgh , everyone I know who has run good hgh anything over 7-8 iu will tingle the fuck and bloat your hands.. I gained 2 shoe sizes in 3 months…

Anyways I will send this bunk qsc hgh off to prove it’s garbage.

Im a pro athlete and here on out won’t be using qsc again.
If you think that because I dont get numb hands that my GH is bad then I really have no more to contribute.

Report back when you get it tested, we will see then.
 
It’s not that feels are meaningless, just that they’re the lowest value evidence.

If five people experienced with a compound complain a certain batch isn’t working, there’s a good chance something’s up, but it still needs to be tested to be certain.

But one? Come on…

We had a guy recently taking 12iu(of another brand). He wasn’t saying it was bunk, but had no sides and IGF was extremely low.

EVEN HIS GH TEST AFTER THE POST “IM INJECTION” PROTOCOL WAS VERY LOW.

Thats the broscience gold standard “bunk test” that was used before services like Jano.

Turned out his leptjn was high, a “starvation signaling hormone”, which crushes IGF production but also shortens GH half life, lowering expected serum GH levels by 40%.

One of many scenarios that can cause deceptive “feels”, and as this example showed, even bloodwork. That’s why you can’t use any individual report as “proof” of rHGH being bunk.


Agree. Thats why we test.
 
I had ssa 36iu that was overdosed and I was at 5iu which would have been more like 7-8overdosed amd man it KILLED my left hand!!!
 
I had ssa 36iu that was overdosed and I was at 5iu which would have been more like 7-8overdosed amd man it KILLED my left hand!!!
Currently I have a large stock of SSA 36iu kits.

I still dont get numb hands.

If I up my dose too fast maybe the Michelin Man cankles, but only if I jump too high too quick
 
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