nullandvoid
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I doubt that guy will be back. Around 4:30PM, he realized he was too intelligent and great to be here and ascended.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic
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QSC was making their own HGH before, but since their Chinese production was raided they don't have access anymore. So what the hell is the HGH they are selling now? Where do they get it from?
Since it's not their own means it's not the same quality? Lab test doesn't tell much. Several companies have HGH testing 96/97%
Since it's not their own means it's not the same quality? Lab test doesn't tell much. Several companies have HGH testing 96/97%
dcfreak
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Nevuary
SpicyMeatball
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Jesus Christ dude your hands are about to pop
SpicyMeatball
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Assuming it’s the same batch as before the great Tracy theft, some other guy was complaining that the DNP was extremely weak for the dose. But then with DNP you don’t really want to go doubling the dose either, it’s a thorny one.
Trailmixed
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You need an echocardiogram. Your ejection fraction is probably shit.
the~club~bro
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Ok, amusing story from me. I mixed up a few vials of GH and Mounjaro and for the past 2 1/2 weeks I've been taking extra GH and no Mounjaro.
I injected an entire TR10 vial to bring my levels back up and it was one the vials from the freeze dried powder mask "stealth" packaging and I can indeed confirm, Tracys TR10 works potently.
The black flip-off caps on the 36iu vials look identical to what SSA was selling, and the testing is nearly identical too. And it's impossible to know whether Q was actually "making it themselves" to begin with, or what that even means.
Either "Tracy" (who is most likely not real Tracy) is selling old stock of QSC / others who got shut own, or has figured out a new supply line. It's not really rocket science to figure out.
Ghoul
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Ok, amusing story from me. I mixed up a few vials of GH and Mounjaro and for the past 2 1/2 weeks I've been taking extra GH and no Mounjaro.
I injected an entire TR10 vial to bring my levels back up and it was one the vials from the freeze dried powder mask "stealth" packaging and I can indeed confirm, Tracys TR10 works potently.
I don’t know what your usual dose is, but 15mg / wk is the most common maintenance dose of Tirz.
Years ago, I started with a 0.25mg dose of Sema, which was like getting hit in the stomach with a brick, and it took 7 months to slowly titrate up to the (then) 2.4mg max dose, and staying on that, which eventually felt like nothing. I don’t mean appetite returned to what it was previously like it lost effectiveness,, just that once you’re at the “set weight” for a given dose you don't feel anything. Unless you manage to gain weight, then effects return until you go back down.
I eventually switched to Tirz for the liver fat clearance, starting at 7.5mg, titrating to 15mg.
I didn’t need or want more weight loss, and only dropped a couple of pounds. But metabolic markers all improved. I’ve been on 15mg for 2 years now, and feel nothing from it. As in, I just eat however I see fit, and stop when full, which is essentially my maintenance calories. I can go a little above that when putting on mass without a problem.
My partner is on 5mg for maintenance, any more and she drops too much weight.
As a rule though, the higher of a dose you can use as a “don’t feel anything” long term maintainance dose without losing too much weight, the better off you are, since all the non-weight related health benefits of GLPs increase with higher doses. Lower inflammation, more vasodilation, better organ protection, slower aging via less oxidative stress, better body composition, etc.
It’s worth being patient, slowly titrating up, and getting to the highest stable dose of your GLP of choice that still allows you to eat enough so you can get the most of the other health protective effects.
This is a weird response. They just said 10mg was very potent so why would they go up beyond that (actually sounds like this is above their normal dose anyway).
Also, since when is 15mg the most common maintenance dose? That's insane. Sure people with a ton of weight to lose get up that high, but that's not the situation of most people here and definitely not common for maintenance. Sure fine if it works for you go for it.
Ghoul
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No UGL has the ability to make rHGH “raws”. That’s a multi million dollar investment in equipment and employees. It’s genetic engineering level manufacturing.
What he meant, which is likely true, is he had a chemist/tech making the finished product, . buying raw rHGH (now easily available), making the liquid “brew” with the excipients, then filling vials and lyophilizing (freeze drying) them. Doing that properly does require skill to make a finished product that tests well, and he may have been one of the earliest UGLs to do that instead of buying finished vials from a lab. Cutting out that middleman allowed him to sell at the lowest per IU cost. I had a conversation with him about the excipients being used, and after some experimentation he said they settled on just using mannitol (it’s not just “.filler” but protects the rHGH from damage during the freeze dry process and makes rHGH more dissolvable.).
Other excipients could’ve helped in various ways (especially extending shelf life after reconstitution), but was lowering tested purity too much, and potential creating other issues like cloudiness. Part of the UGL problem is not knowing what kind of BAC or how much will be used by your customer to reconstitute. It takes Pharma a team of scientists and 6 months to a year to create an acceptable excipient formulation, and they know exactly how much and what type of water will be used to reconstitute it with.
This is one reason people sometimes say “pharma has lower purity / higher dimer than UGL”, which is often true because pharma adds a bunch of excipient ingredients beside mannitol that cause some dimer to form, but that’s an intentional trade off to make sure the rHGH doesn’t degrade or aggregate while in liquid form. UGL is more concerned with Jano test results, because that’s what the market will judge it on, while pharma wants to make sure when the FDA checks a vial 2 weeks after reconstitution, they won’t find an unacceptable amount of aggregates and force a recall.
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Ghoul
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The response was meant to point out (for the benefit of others, not necessarily you) that higher doses offer more long term non-weight loss benefits.
These aren’t simple diet pills, the way you seem to think they work. They’re hormones. Response varies tremendously between individuals based on baseline levels and receptor density, which are genetically determined Some 300lb person could not be able to go above 5mg without losing excessive weight, while another who’s 175 might not lose anything at 10mg, or even be a complete non responder at 15mg.
ineffectual
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I'm pretty sure maintenance dose is and does look different for every individual. Unfortunately when our bodies were made they were not exactly identical.
Well, another shady stuff coming from 'goo ol tracy".
Im astonished people are still buying anything from this guy. Even if we forget his past, he is clearly greedy as fuck, his coms/shippin seem subpar, that's quite obvious you won't even make a "good deal" with this guy. And if you do, that's legit buying "rep" for future scams/shady stuffs.
I stopped following this scammer after a few conversation with him and reading his dumbfuck marketing in EU warehouse that makes us look like some 16 yo juicer "get those kit of deca you europeans, you know winter and nandrolone means massive gains" while selling oxidized vials that are literally 3 years old (ive still a few from this batch) with aan absurd price tag.
Situation isn't the best, could be worse even. But still, we have chinese sources that offers some shit.
Might be me, call me "fearmongering/chilling/whatever" but to me this is just red flags everywhere and it doesnt even owe me money. If I had to bet why they are so much new accounts or bot that repost message, thats this fucker trying to get some juicy alts.
Im astonished people are still buying anything from this guy. Even if we forget his past, he is clearly greedy as fuck, his coms/shippin seem subpar, that's quite obvious you won't even make a "good deal" with this guy. And if you do, that's legit buying "rep" for future scams/shady stuffs.
I stopped following this scammer after a few conversation with him and reading his dumbfuck marketing in EU warehouse that makes us look like some 16 yo juicer "get those kit of deca you europeans, you know winter and nandrolone means massive gains" while selling oxidized vials that are literally 3 years old (ive still a few from this batch) with aan absurd price tag.
Situation isn't the best, could be worse even. But still, we have chinese sources that offers some shit.
Might be me, call me "fearmongering/chilling/whatever" but to me this is just red flags everywhere and it doesnt even owe me money. If I had to bet why they are so much new accounts or bot that repost message, thats this fucker trying to get some juicy alts.
nullandvoid
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I'm greedy, too. That's why I buy his stuff.
Dude 15 is like max dosing
If youre a non responder at 15mg youre a fatass still eating like a pig amd never changing your diet
Neh, it's called HEAVY MAX maintenance dose, but only for the inflammation, organ protection, better body composition (read WEIGHT LOSS).
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