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How do you know that there isn't already bacteria inside the vial? Is it perfectly sterile?

Water is one of the best mediums for bacteria to grow.

The Zydus HCG I got came with saline water and said discard the unused portion.

Can you contact them and tell them that they are behind the science? Maybe you can be their lead research scientist.
You're even more cognitively challenged than the other guy, is saline water one of the best medius for bacteria to grow?


It's best not, I'm good at hurting Internet babies feelings. Being wrong sucks when it's so easily pointed out.

Benzyl alcohol disrupts bacterial cell membranes, stops ATP generation, inhibits replication and prevents biofilm formation.

So when bacteria enter from air, stopper puncture, syringe contact, they cannot multiply. They die off over time instead of exploding into millions. That tiny amount of benzyl alcohol is the entire magic. It does not sterilize, it prevents bacteria from reproducing. Bacteriostatic water preventing vial contamination is real established medical science, not broscience.


Best wishes cupcake. Your another bright burnt out lightbulb.
I don't care what benzyl alcohol does that's not the point, point is bac water is not better than saline for reconstituting vials for keeping a sterile bacteria free medium, and bacteria doesn't magically enter from air into the vial or when you puncture the vial, as I said if you use proper sanitation there s no chance for bacteria to ever enter the vial. It's why bac water is not a standard in the medical industryor even exist outside usa, because is not necessary.

I guess both of you steroid forum gremlins know better than jano or a whole continent of medical practice tho
 
You're even more cognitively challenged than the other guy, is saline water one of the best medius for bacteria to grow?



I don't care what benzyl alcohol does that's not the point, point is bac water is not better than saline for reconstituting vials for keeping a sterile bacteria free medium, and bacteria doesn't magically enter from air into the vial or when you puncture the vial, as I said if you use proper sanitation there s no chance for bacteria to ever enter the vial. It's why bac water is not a standard in the medical industryor even exist outside usa, because is not necessary.

I guess both of you steroid forum gremlins know better than jano or a whole continent of medical practice tho
You are half right.

Saline is superior. But the medical industry doesn't reconstitute peptides to use over weeks and months...

Saline is NOT bacteriostatic so it's not suitable for multidose vials.
 
You're even more cognitively challenged than the other guy, is saline water one of the best medius for bacteria to grow?



I don't care what benzyl alcohol does that's not the point, point is bac water is not better than saline for reconstituting vials for keeping a sterile bacteria free medium, and bacteria doesn't magically enter from air into the vial or when you puncture the vial, as I said if you use proper sanitation there s no chance for bacteria to ever enter the vial. It's why bac water is not a standard in the medical industryor even exist outside usa, because is not necessary.

I guess both of you steroid forum gremlins know better than jano or a whole continent of medical practice tho
At first I thought you were trolling.

IDk what to think now
They have sterile water for injections
They have saline for injections
They have sterile water+BA
They also have saline+BA for multi use.(I buy this cause it hasn't been marked up for cost)
 
You're even more cognitively challenged than the other guy, is saline water one of the best medius for bacteria to grow?



I don't care what benzyl alcohol does that's not the point, point is bac water is not better than saline for reconstituting vials for keeping a sterile bacteria free medium, and bacteria doesn't magically enter from air into the vial or when you puncture the vial, as I said if you use proper sanitation there s no chance for bacteria to ever enter the vial. It's why bac water is not a standard in the medical industryor even exist outside usa, because is not necessary.

I guess both of you steroid forum gremlins know better than jano or a whole continent of medical practice tho
"The decision between normal saline and bacteriostatic saline hinges on their fundamental differences, particularly the presence of a preservative and their intended use. Normal saline, being preservative-free, is typically provided in larger volumes for single-use applications such as extensive intravenous fluid replacement or large-scale wound irrigation. Its rapid use after opening is necessary to maintain sterility, as it lacks agents to prevent microbial growth. This makes normal saline the preferred choice for situations requiring large volumes or direct administration into the bloodstream where preservatives are undesirable.

Bacteriostatic saline, with its benzyl alcohol preservative, is designed for multiple withdrawals from a single vial, making it economical for diluting medications that are administered in small, repeated doses. The preservative allows the vial to be accessed multiple times over a period, often up to 28 days, provided aseptic techniques are followed. However, the benzyl alcohol in bacteriostatic saline makes it unsuitable for certain applications and populations, most notably neonates and infants. Benzyl alcohol can be toxic to newborns, potentially leading to severe metabolic acidosis, respiratory distress, and even death, a condition sometimes referred to as “gasping syndrome.” Therefore, normal saline is mandated for use in neonates when a saline solution is required for flushing intravascular catheters or preparing medications.


Important Considerations for Use
Proper handling and storage are important for both normal and bacteriostatic saline to ensure safety and efficacy. Normal saline, without preservatives, should generally be used immediately after opening, especially for intravenous applications, and any unused portion should be discarded promptly to avoid contamination.

For bacteriostatic saline, the presence of benzyl alcohol allows for multi-dose use, typically up to 28 days after the first puncture. The vial must be labeled with the opening date and stored at room temperature (20-25°C or 68-77°F).

General guidelines for both types of saline include checking expiration dates before use, inspecting the solution for clarity and absence of particulate matter, and always maintaining aseptic technique during preparation and administration."

Source: Bacteriostatic Saline vs Normal Saline: Key Differences

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You're even more cognitively challenged than the other guy, is saline water one of the best medius for bacteria to grow?

I don't care what benzyl alcohol does that's not the point, point is bac water is not better than saline for reconstituting vials for keeping a sterile bacteria free medium, and bacteria doesn't magically enter from air into the vial or when you puncture the vial, as I said if you use proper sanitation there s no chance for bacteria to ever enter the vial. It's why bac water is not a standard in the medical industryor even exist outside usa, because is not necessary.

I guess both of you steroid forum gremlins know better than jano or a whole continent of medical practice tho


Then help all the intelligent people reading this below ↓ how to interpret in a clear manner what it is your actually asking.


Do we have a consensus about the type of water for reconstituting hgh?

I'm sure it will be ok for GH if I use the vial in 6 days, but how about reta if it takes more than 2 weeks? Thanks

You were given answers...you responded by asking if someone was dyslexic who gave you a clear answer. You respond like that on the Internet because nobody can physically rattle your teeth in your mouth. Show some courtesy in your responses and you won't be met with negativity.
 
You are half right.

Saline is superior. But the medical industry doesn't reconstitute peptides to use over weeks and months...

Saline is NOT bacteriostatic so it's not suitable for multidose vials.
so riddle me this, vial is sterile, saline is added, the vial is punctured more than once let s say 7 times, each time in perfectly sterile conditions, where does the bacteria gets in to make the saline reconstituted vial not suitable for multidose? You're gonna say it magically enters the vial at the 48h mark like the other guy? Do you know the top of the vial has that self regenerating material for a reason?
 
so riddle me this, vial is sterile, saline is added, the vial is punctured more than once let s say 7 times, each time in perfectly sterile conditions, where does the bacteria gets in to make the saline reconstituted vial not suitable for multidose? You're gonna say it magically enters the vial at the 48h mark like the other guy? Do you know the top of the vial has that self regenerating material for a reason?
I don't give a heck where the bacteria comes from. Roll the dice I suppose .

But generally guidelines like this are written in blood...
 
so riddle me this, vial is sterile, saline is added, the vial is punctured more than once let s say 7 times, each time in perfectly sterile conditions, where does the bacteria gets in to make the saline reconstituted vial not suitable for multidose? You're gonna say it magically enters the vial at the 48h mark like the other guy? Do you know the top of the vial has that self regenerating material for a reason?
You going to store it in your fridge? You know with food, and other contaminates, in a cool damp environment with a condenser and fan circulating the air. The same air around your 7 day old leftovers, eggs with potential salmonella, moist vegetables with E.coli, or god knows what else? Then inject it. Sure sterility is paramount, this is 1 additional measure to prevent stupid from continuously spreading across Meso with all you new rude ass retarded opinion people. It's getting old. You ask questions then argue like a disgruntled house wife.

Let me guess you'll rebuttal with I have a private mini fridge for that purpose? Cause if you do why would you argue an additional preventive measure like BAC Water.
 
so what you're saying is that you actually don't have a clue why bac water is necessary but you just vehemently argued with me for the past 30 minutes that it is
I don't give a heck where the bacteria comes from. Roll the dice I suppose .

But generally guidelines like this are written in blood...
 
so what you're saying is that you actually don't have a clue why bac water is necessary but you just vehemently argued with me for the past 30 minutes that it is
Your really dumb and proving it beyond doubt. At least it will be entertaining when the majority of Meso wakes up and eats at you. I'm enjoying this way more than I probably should, for some reason dragging this out, so that the general public can see your demeanor has been greatly entertaining. Thank you my man.
 
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You going to store it in your fridge? You know with food, and other contaminates, in a cool damp environment with a condenser and fan circulating the air. The same air around your 7 day old leftovers, eggs with potential salmonella, moist vegetables with E.coli, or god knows what else? Then inject it. Sure sterility is paramount, this is 1 additional measure to prevent stupid from continuously spreading across Meso with all you new rude ass retarded opinion people. It's getting old. You ask questions then argue like a disgruntled house wife.

Let me guess you'll rebuttal with I have a private mini fridge for that purpose? Cause if you do why would you argue an additional preventive measure like BAC Water.
so the goal post moved from bac water is imperative to "it s a good preventive measure" which I agree with, guess I am right, was that hard to admit little boy?
 
Your really dumb and proving it beyond doubt. At least it will be entertaining when the majority of Meso wakes up and eats you alive.
geekiest chronically online shit I've heard coming from a guy who "rattles peoples teeth irl" , ok thanks for the time it was a very enjoyable discussion seeing you get in your feelings every time but I'm leaving now, have a nice day and check your e2 after
 
Did you fail the literacy test? The black text above the green test says "bacteriostatic". It's saline and benzyl alcohol my G
He knows that dummy, he was listing a number of things that can be used for single and multiple used vials. Go get working on yourself and your log, you need that more than you need to be trying to correct ppl.
 
geekiest chronically online shit I've heard coming from a guy who "rattles peoples teeth irl" , ok thanks for the time it was a very enjoyable discussion seeing you get in your feelings every time but I'm leaving now, have a nice day and check your e2 after
Absolutely buttercup, I've enjoyed my discussion with you immensely. Thank you for the entertainment.
 
Holy fuck guys, do you have anything else to do? You're floading the thread with chick fight! Check y'alls e2, get on exemestane. If you were talking in person this would have been over 3 pages ago.
 
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