Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

Sending again put you at the end of the queue, and yesterday US time was the beginning of the weekend in CN. I just sent a payment confirmation yesterday and don't expect to hear anything before Monday.
Ya, I've dealt with him plenty of times before and there's never been an issue. This was the first order I had sit for over 2 days and he said he was caught up on everything except the last 7 hours so that's why I deleted and resent
 
I placed the order Friday night and sent the proof of payment and transaction hash. The payment went through at 1:00 a.m. on Saturday. He’s seen my message, but I still haven’t received tracking.

It’s the weekend, so he will most likely send it on Monday. So if anyone is in a similar spot I wouldn't worry. Communication is always weird during the weekend.
 
I placed the order Friday night and sent the proof of payment and transaction hash. The payment went through at 1:00 a.m. on Saturday. He’s seen my message, but I still haven’t received tracking.

It’s the weekend, so he will most likely send it on Monday. So if anyone is in a similar spot I wouldn't worry. Communication is always weird during the weekend.
Yeah, I ordered Sunday paid on Tuesday, still no tracking. But probably he will send it Monday.
Better not to bother him ig.
 
Exactly.

I also saw some HGH 100 IU in US warehouse.

This most likely means that we will have them in the EU warehouse in about 2 weeks.

I was wondering if Tracy will test this batch as well, it would be amazing.
 
How many warehouses will this guy need to open up before paying the scammed people back? one in every country?

To be honest i could almost swallow the loss if he made a deal for the people that got money lost, like to buy less then max kits and free shipping. Shouldent need to put out for 5 kits of gh if only needing two n so on. most buy more then one peptide each time or is in need of more then one

And how much money could it really be that he needs to pay back? as it would at tops be 1 week of payments n no shipping, its not like people were paying him for 3 weeks and got nothing. i think he exaggerate how much money he owns people to make it sound like it wont be possible

edit (my loss were very small, if i had lost 300-500 usd i obviously wouldent be happy with the mini demands i wrote about in this post) but he needs to do something to soften the blow for the members, as he continue to make millions of the forum
ive thought a lot about this. i placed an order a few weeks ago bc it was the only HMG i could find, and I saw all the mentions of the purported exit scam. however, at the time it seemed like everything was g2g and tracy was back on track and packs were landing and testing well.

but the integrity question remained. i had a moral objection to the choice they made, so should i give them my money or should i stand on my principles. i obviously chose to give them my money, but here's why;

we are dealing in anonymous transactions that are usually somewhat illegal at least on one side. its at best a gray market, if not a black one. there are a few assumptions and axioms we all make and accept when participating. the couple that are relevant are; try and avoid detection from the powers that be, if caught dont be a bitch and take down others, there is a lot of risk involved, if shit hits the fan you are on your own.

we KNOW there were raids and govt pressure in china around the time tracy went dark. we KNOW tracy deals in the substances/markets that were targeted, we KNOW some orgs were wiped clean out, and we KNOW the no user on the forum got pinched or otherwise legally caught up as a result of that (chinese to be fair) govt pressure [nvm there is no real way to KNOW this one but imleaving it in].

if tracy got squeezed by the govt and was forced to destroy x amt of product or "donate" it to a politician's own interests,or just flat out made to pay a giant fine/bribe to escape severe punishment--how do we feel about that? do we want to pitch in to help them make the payment or cover the loss? do we want tracy to give them leads on users or other sellers to lighten their penalties? or do we accept that that risk is a part of doing business in this space and move on?

i feel like tracy made that same call. there was a pinch, there was a large loss, there was a recovery, and there was a continuation. if all the product to be sent out was destroyed or confiscated, refunding everyone is "double" the hit (obviously margins exist and its not 1:1). if monetary assets were somehow seized, again refunding doubles that hit.

obviously the best option is to make your customers right however you can. the least you should do is offer as thorough an explanation as possible, if only to comfort those crying into their pillows at night.

but the conclusion i came to was that its kinda just the cost of participating in this space, and that it was handled poorly as far as politics go.

i know no one asked and that its annoying af to ave a giant wall of words in your drugs forum. sorry, i have an addiction to typing bs online
 
Exactly.

I also saw some HGH 100 IU in US warehouse.

This most likely means that we will have them in the EU warehouse in about 2 weeks.

I was wondering if Tracy will test this batch as well, it would be amazing.
100IU was added to the EU warehouse on January 17. But it is no longer listed in the latest letters. It has probably been sold out.
 
Is anyone having problems with their gh not fully dissolving , its all stuck to the glass and theres a piece of peptide floating around in there that dosent dissolve
 
ive thought a lot about this. i placed an order a few weeks ago bc it was the only HMG i could find, and I saw all the mentions of the purported exit scam. however, at the time it seemed like everything was g2g and tracy was back on track and packs were landing and testing well.

but the integrity question remained. i had a moral objection to the choice they made, so should i give them my money or should i stand on my principles. i obviously chose to give them my money, but here's why;

we are dealing in anonymous transactions that are usually somewhat illegal at least on one side. its at best a gray market, if not a black one. there are a few assumptions and axioms we all make and accept when participating. the couple that are relevant are; try and avoid detection from the powers that be, if caught dont be a bitch and take down others, there is a lot of risk involved, if shit hits the fan you are on your own.

we KNOW there were raids and govt pressure in china around the time tracy went dark. we KNOW tracy deals in the substances/markets that were targeted, we KNOW some orgs were wiped clean out, and we KNOW the no user on the forum got pinched or otherwise legally caught up as a result of that (chinese to be fair) govt pressure [nvm there is no real way to KNOW this one but imleaving it in].

if tracy got squeezed by the govt and was forced to destroy x amt of product or "donate" it to a politician's own interests,or just flat out made to pay a giant fine/bribe to escape severe punishment--how do we feel about that? do we want to pitch in to help them make the payment or cover the loss? do we want tracy to give them leads on users or other sellers to lighten their penalties? or do we accept that that risk is a part of doing business in this space and move on?

i feel like tracy made that same call. there was a pinch, there was a large loss, there was a recovery, and there was a continuation. if all the product to be sent out was destroyed or confiscated, refunding everyone is "double" the hit (obviously margins exist and its not 1:1). if monetary assets were somehow seized, again refunding doubles that hit.

obviously the best option is to make your customers right however you can. the least you should do is offer as thorough an explanation as possible, if only to comfort those crying into their pillows at night.

but the conclusion i came to was that its kinda just the cost of participating in this space, and that it was handled poorly as far as politics go.

i know no one asked and that its annoying af to ave a giant wall of words in your drugs forum. sorry, i have an addiction to typing bs online
I agree on some parts

Understand that he lost products, but the entire "i own people so much money i just cant pay back yet" seems like BS, as he couldent had time to bring in THAT many orders in just a week

What you are saying tho feels alright if he had lost everything and were owining people 10s of thousends of dollars in orders and its just impossible to pay back. Then we could argue its our loss, its gray market, its a hit one might need to accept in this business

But as the total amount is at tops a few grand i really feel he needs to pay us back or at least do something for the people he scammed (so far)

I mean it feels extremely disrespectful to make all this money of the forum and he cant even do a discount, free shipping, some extra offer like less max kits, just to show us something, a bredcrumb for the members.

But nothing. Thats what bothers me
 
Is anyone having problems with their gh not fully dissolving , its all stuck to the glass and theres a piece of peptide floating around in there that dosent dissolve
Are you talking about the 100ui vials?
I was wondering how the hell to you reconstitute those.... As I assume it's the same 3ml vials ... That would be a hell of a concentration for GH and would lead to accelerated degradation
 
Do any of yall order on discord? I got a buddy talking to Tracy on discord and it sounds weird becuase she is saying there is a sale for the canada warehouse that ends today. And that he can pay using PayPal and I haven't gotten an answer from Tracy on telegram yet confirming it is "her"
 
Do any of yall order on discord? I got a buddy talking to Tracy on discord and it sounds weird becuase she is saying there is a sale for the canada warehouse that ends today. And that he can pay using PayPal and I haven't gotten an answer from Tracy on telegram yet confirming it is "her"

Fucking idiot your friend let him pay so he learns his lesson. It’s so easy to look up a name on discord and see if he has admin rights on the discord. 20s of work max
 
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