QSC - Primo 200 - Quantitative and Endotoxin test results

[readalot]

This is not what you want when you order injectables. Terrible source. They should sell it in media jars as “semi-finished” gear. That way there is no confusion that it MUST BE FILTERED because there’s a bunch of shit floating around in it.

This is the correct answer. And filtered means running this oil through 0.2 um. No, not 5 um. Yes, 0.2 um. QSC oil is not finished oil. Yes, "finished" oils with floaters should be run off the board.

Thanks for the testing
@MyNameIsJeff.

Putting a semi-finished oil in injection vials is the opposite of harm reduction.

It's great that customers have assurance that endotoxin results on raws and oils have been encouraging so far. That doesn't mean the oils are sterile. Clear definition of a finished oil should be made.

 

[iris]

You should tag me then.

There’s no outrage. That’s your perception because I dared to say something negative about your employer.

Fuck off, idiot.
Anyone saying this can only be a thick piece of shit.
Here you are.

 

[BigNoOne]

Keep going with the dislikes for my posts limp dick @BigNoOne

Let's see how many you manage to hit today.

Come on then, not even 20 in 60 seconds.

You are reacting very defensively. You have an awfully high emotional response to anything related to “enhanced testing” and QSC.

Was the project cooked up from the start just for QSC?

 

[readalot]

Was the project cooked up from the start just for QSC?

I can assure you. Fuck no.

F Me. Today I became a QSC shill. Oh Lord.

 

[iris]

You are reacting very defensively. You have an awfully high emotional response to anything related to “enhanced testing” and QSC.

Was the project cooked up from the start just for QSC?

I have not joined the forum with any agenda, unlike you.

My "emotional response" is against bullshitters, liars and posers like yourself.

All you have done since joining is trying to discredit members and the testing endeavours that have, instead, been praised by the very owner of this site.

Not my opinion.
It's all there for everyone to see.

 

[readalot]

@readalot

Do you have details on Jano's testing method. IE materials used and protocol?

I'd appreciate @janoshik sharing those details as it is a separate lab those samples are sent to. It's early days for endotoxin and sterility testing for the underground.

 

[BigNoOne]

I have not joined the forum with any agenda, unlike you.

My "emotional response" is against bullshitters, liars and posers like yourself.

All you have done since joining is trying to discredit members and the testing endeavours that have, instead, been praised by the very owner of this site.

Not my opinion.
It's all there for everyone to see.

what’s my agenda then? What am I lying about?

 

[iris]

I can assure you. Fuck no.

I mean, is this even worthy of an answer?

He has shown himself fully for what he is, today.

 

[BigNoOne]

I'd appreciate @janoshik sharing those details as it is a separate lab those samples are sent to. It's early days for endotoxin and sterility testing for the underground.

It’s good that these tests are being utilized to determine that gear with floaters and shit in it can be sold as “good well made gear that just needs a little filtering is all”.

 

[BigNoOne]

I mean, is this even worthy of an answer?

He has shown himself fully for what he is, today.

What am I?

 

[BigNoOne]

I mean, is this even worthy of an answer?

He has shown himself fully for what he is, today.

Unlike you, @readalot knows exactly why I joined here. I was discussing his testing with him on a different forum and he kept referencing posts on this forum.

I’m glad I joined. It’s allowed me to engage with so many delightful people @iris

 

[iris]

I wouldn’t bother engaging with @iris. Look into its post history and you’ll see it is not really a member here. It’s here to help promote shitty cheaply made gear from China. There’s a group of them here pushing their agenda.

Tracy
We better renegotiate my contract, now that small dick man got me busted

 

[readalot]

Can we cut the rest of the shit and focus on the answer?

 

[readalot]

In this instance, Tracy, you are spot on.
This guy is a limp penis, all talk no action.

He needs a bit of your tren

You are going with a vendor against a member for no defensible reason. This is not ok.

 

[Ghoul]

I'd appreciate @janoshik sharing those details as it is a separate lab those samples are sent to. It's early days for endotoxin and sterility testing for the underground.

You literally took the words out of my mouth. Investigate "LAL ENDOTOXIN TEST VARIABILITY" and you quickly find studies showing variability of test results up to an incredible 9000% on the same sample, Most results are far more consistent, but for there to be any meaning here, ie, LAB 1 is much cleaner than that shithole LAB 2, requires a repeatable procedure regardless of who's performing it.

I have more specific technical questions, but a copy of Jano's subcontracted lab's procedure will probably answer them.

Like I mentioned, there are many more moving parts to this test, even in my basic layman's understanding of the process, than the other tests that we usually see in UGL, and documenting the specific protocol used in this case will help us to get a better grip on what will hopefully become as routine as purity and dimer is for HGH.

It should be a relatively inexpensive test, within reach of all vendors, and reliable LAL "scores" would give labs something really concrete to compete on, as they each seek to have the lowest.

 

[BigNoOne]

You are going with a vendor against a member for no defensible reason. This is not ok.

Boom. You get it.

 

[readalot]

You get it

Yeah, that's my problem. I get it a little too well.

I will defend your position to the f'n end if it the correct one. Nice job up above. I hope I was clear enough with my comments on your post.

 

[readalot]

You literally took the words out of my mouth. Investigate "LAL ENDOTOXIN TEST VARIABILITY" and you quickly find studies showing variability of test results up to an incredible 9000% on the same sample, Most results are far more consistent, but for there to be any meaning here, ie, LAB 1 is much cleaner than that shithole LAB 2, requires a repeatable procedure regardless of who's performing it.

I have more specific technical questions, but a copy of Jano's subcontracted lab's procedure will probably answer them.

Like I mentioned, there are many more moving parts to this test, even in my basic layman's understanding of the process, than the other tests that we usually see in UGL, and documenting the specific protocol used in this case will help us to get a better grip on what will hopefully become as routine as purity and dimer is for HGH.

It should be a relatively inexpensive test, within reach of all vendors, and reliable LAL "scores" would give labs something really concrete to compete on, as they each seek to have the lowest.

Excellence as always.

 

[iris]

You are going with a vendor against a member for no defensible reason. This is not ok.

Nope, you got it very wrong, like your mate you have invited here.
I agree with Tracy, in calling him out for the idiot he is.

As soon as I thanked Jeff for doing this test for the first time, and on something that has been identified as a problem, here he comes with the thumbs down and the laughs.

If you think he is here with good intentions, think again.
Then, again, you brought him here and he said you knew what he was coming to do.
So, to you, all this is defensible.
I suppose the more posts and views on a thread, the better.

Calling people shills, making accusations and now trolling in other, unrelated threads.

You may like this stuff aimed at you.
I certainly don't.

 

[readalot]

you have invited here

Nope.

you brought him here

False.

I suppose the more posts and views on a thread, the better.

Wtf?

Not quite.

People can say what they want so I'm not going to try and dilute his message above with the BS he posted on my thread. His point above holds and my intent here in this forum is clear.

Have a good day.