Question about recovery

[objekt]

Hi guys!

So since I got back into training this May, I have felt absolutely amazing. I'm always super stoked about training, I honestly want to be in the gym every day of the week. The weird part is that it feels as if recovery is just stupidly good for me. No matter how hard I go, I feel ready to go the very next day. I'm used to not getting DOMS, but now it feels as if I can do sets on end @ 95% and come back again and increase the weight and do the same amounts of sets and reps.

On top of this I have been losing fat and building muscle at the same time.

I know about newbiegains, but are they supposed to come this "late" ? I remember adding a lot of weight to the bar first starting out, but I honestly expected it to end pretty soon - or at least not skyrocket like it has.

Also I am 100% natty if we ignore the extremely potent drug creatine.

How long does newbiegains last? And my main question is the following:

Should I take advantage of this through the roof recovery by training more often and more intense than what is perhaps normally recommended?

 

[Docd187123]

Newbie gains can last a few months to a year or more even. Depends in many factors. If you can still get away with daily linear progression than go for it. By that I mean, add weight to the bar each training session not training everyday.

DOMS is thought to be caused by the eccentric porion of a lift and happens bc one isn't adapted to the stimulus. It's not a great indicator of how good a program is or how good a workout went.

Of you're following a program then you should stick to the program. If you are free styling your workouts then maybe you can increase the frequency or loading but you should be well aware of your recovery abilities and know how to manage fatigue. It's more of a late intermediate/advanced technique IMO to alter your workouts like that

 

[objekt]

Newbie gains can last a few months to a year or more even. Depends in many factors. If you can still get away with daily linear progression than go for it. By that I mean, add weight to the bar each training session not training everyday.

DOMS is thought to be caused by the eccentric porion of a lift and happens bc one isn't adapted to the stimulus. It's not a great indicator of how good a program is or how good a workout went.

Of you're following a program then you should stick to the program. If you are free styling your workouts then maybe you can increase the frequency or loading but you should be well aware of your recovery abilities and know how to manage fatigue. It's more of a late intermediate/advanced technique IMO to alter your workouts like that

Thanks for the reply ! Glad to see you in my thread as always

I created the log and my program is set up there. I basically did a slight variation of insertnameheres program. Still needs some ironing out, especially as far as progression goes. His program calls for recalculating after each successful 95% attempt, however he is a more advanced lifter than me and thus he probably doesn't adapt as quickly as I do right now. I am definitely gonna stick to the program once I nail it down i.e get everything sorted in terms of progression.

So basically what you are saying is - follow the program as layed out, don't do additional days and if I want faster progression then simply add more weight to the bar when I am going for the 95% lifts?

 

[Docd187123]

I need to look for your log. I may have missed it.

Seeing as he is more advanced than you, yes, it's possible you can use a faster progression scheme. Maybe after each week add 2.5-5lbs to your lifts

Progression may not necessarily be faster. Loading the bar more means more of a stimulus to adapt to but the actual progression comes from recovering from that stimulus. If you add more weight and can recover nice. If it ends up going beyond your recovery abilities in the context of your entire training cycle then it will slow you down. You must also understand how fitness fits into the equation. Fitness is your ability to express strength or power. So lifting the weights causes a stimulus your body needs to adapt to. Recovery allows it to adapt to that stimulus. Too much stress and your recovery is overwhelmed and your fitness or ability to demonstrate strength declines. Just the right amount of stress and you recover properly and after a peak or deload you'll be able to express that new strength with PRs

 

[objekt]

Thanks doc

My training log is here in the training sub forum

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/objekt-training-log-powerlifting.134366819/

How do I know if I have overstepped my boundaries in terms of recovery? As I said in the OP I feel invincible these days, so it feels as if I could be doing more - and if I can do more to get more then I will.

BTW I decided to do "practical programming" by Mark Rippetoe on kindle. Did I dun goof or is it good stuff? (I assume its good stuff)

 

[weighted chinup]

How do I know if I have overstepped my boundaries in terms of recovery? As I said in the OP I feel invincible these days, so it feels as if I could be doing more - and if I can do more to get more then I will.

When you notice what seems like an involution in strength / performance, then that is a good indicator you are excessively overreaching and it's time to deload and allow yourself to recover by dissipating fatigue and any micro-trauma you accumulated. Fatigue masks fitness.

A well programmed routine should have ways of managing this if you follow what the author has laid out. You can approach this instinctively if you want but I wouldn't recommend that unless you're advanced or know how to gauge fatigue symptoms and how they affect fitness really really well.

 

[Docd187123]

When you notice what seems like an involution in strength / performance, then that is a good indicator you are excessively overreaching and it's time to deload and allow yourself to recover by dissipating fatigue and any micro-trauma you accumulated. Fatigue masks fitness.

A well programmed routine should have ways of managing this if you follow what the author has laid out. You can approach this instinctively if you want but I wouldn't recommend that unless you're advanced or know how to gauge fatigue symptoms and how they affect fitness really really well.

As good an aswnsr as you're gonna get ^^^^