Questioning my gear/Bloods advice

[The Terminator]

If you just want to see if the T is real you don’t need to wait 6 weeks, being 2 weeks you’ll see a higher level. 6 weeks in it might be higher and/or more stable but I once had doubts because I read all this feeling like Superman bs so I got tested 2-3 weeks in and my T came back at ~2500-2699, can’t remember exact # atm.

Another thing is you might have built it up in your head to have been stronger than you actually experienced 8 years ago.

 

[88general88]

If you just want to see if the T is real you don’t need to wait 6 weeks, being 2 weeks
you’ll see a higher level. 6 weeks in it might be higher and/or more stable but I once had doubts because I read all this feeling like Superman bs so I got tested 2-3 weeks in and my T came back at ~2500-2699, can’t remember exact # atm.

Another thing is you might have built it up in your head to have been stronger than you actually experienced 8 years ago.

smart man

 

[JohnRay81]

Alright I've gotten the test results back. Hopefully I have uploaded it correctly. Kinda confused me how upload it in the right format. I also messed up ad thought I ordered an uncapped test but didnt. Definitely think something has me feeling off due to some of the readings or maybe that my e2 is completely whack but not sure what much of it means and Im kinda nervous what all of it interprets to so if someone could give me some feedback it'd be greatly appreciated. I've dropped the adex since I came off dbol but going to get back on adex and get bloods done again in a few weeks. This is kinda a surprise that is that high bc I never had high e2 issues when I cycled years ago.

 

[JohnRay81]

Also I'm not sure what is considered bad for liver values coming off dbol but about a year ago I got blood drawn at the dr and was told I had slightly elevated liver enzymes but like I said havent been on gear for years previous to this. Was told by my dr that it was more than likely just a genetic issue as my father also has high enzymes. I did a liver cleanse and took milk thistle for about two months prior to this cycle so with that being said should I stay clear of orals from here on out or is it normal for them to be so high?

 

[Heavy Iron]

Those liver values are pretty high. You don't drink do you? Also I assume the way you convert to E2 is definitely going to change over 8 years. Especially metabolism and such. Have you been sick recently? Flu/cold? Your WBC is pretty high.

 

[JohnRay81]

Those liver values are pretty high. You don't drink do you? Also I assume the way you convert to E2 is definitely going to change over 8 years. Especially metabolism and such. Have you been sick recently? Flu/cold? Your WBC is pretty high.

Have not had a sip of alcohol since starting this cycle. And even before rarely drink. A beer or two if I go out for dinner or an occasional night out drinking with my friends once every month or so. The only thing I can relate the wbc count to is I had a cold/sinus infection right before starting this cycle and was gave a rocephin shot for it so not sure how long the high wbc count would linger around from that.

 

[Heavy Iron]

I had a cold/sinus infection

I've had the same thing for a week. Sucks man. I'm sure others will be in to help interpret the bloods.

 

[Burrr]

Any source is only as good as the last batch of raws.

If you have any doubts just toss that shit and order new.
I have never stayed on gear I thought was shitty long enough to get bloods.
As soon as I have doubts I stop using it and go with something else.
I always have a little back up stash of test e, so I'm not crashing when I quit a brand.
Some brands just dont agree with me, give me inflammatory response.
At 25 or 30 bucks a vial, no fucks are given when I trash it.

 

[Havah]

Also I'm not sure what is considered bad for liver values coming off dbol but about a year ago I got blood drawn at the dr and was told I had slightly elevated liver enzymes but like I said havent been on gear for years previous to this. Was told by my dr that it was more than likely just a genetic issue as my father also has high enzymes. I did a liver cleanse and took milk thistle for about two months prior to this cycle so with that being said should I stay clear of orals from here on out or is it normal for them to be so high?

I would indeed stay away from orals

Also dont be fooled into thinking milk thistle will do any sort of prevention for your liver as far as orals damage go

Your blood pannel show a very slight inflamatory reaction which unless you have clinical symptoms is of not much signifiance

The hepatic damage is of cytolytic nature and should return to normal upon oral discontinuation, but again, i strongly advise you against orals in the future

 

[Heavy Iron]

Looks like you have an infection of some sort.


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[Heavy Iron]

This is pretty cool.

 

[88general88]

I will ask the question that no one has. If your answer is yes. Don’t trip. Here it goes... do you have hepatitis C ?? If you do, Just know you won’t die, you might get the 3rd degree on here because you need to abandon any and all things that are hepatoxic. If you don’t have it then you are doing something that is causing you to be TOXIC. In layman’s terms that the term a healthcare provider would use to describe your exact levels. Because they are elevated. Just like our homeboys mentioned, drinking of hard alcohol of any amount will cause elevated enzymes. Then adding a hepatoxic androgen into the mix its not what we want. Many have done this. If you like the effects of alcohol and you like to cycle, u may want to give GHB a shot. At least you will give your body gh release, and one less thing to beat up the liver. That’s why everyone always say roids and alcohol are a bad combo. Not because of drunken anger, because of the toxicity to the liver.

 

[JohnRay81]

I will ask the question that no one has. If your answer is yes. Don’t trip. Here it goes... do you have hepatitis C ?? If you do, Just know you won’t die, you might get the 3rd degree on here because you need to abandon any and all things that are hepatoxic. If you don’t have it then you are doing something that is causing you to be TOXIC. In layman’s terms that the term a healthcare provider would use to describe your exact levels. Because they are elevated. Just like our homeboys mentioned, drinking of hard alcohol of any amount will cause elevated enzymes. Then adding a hepatoxic androgen into the mix its not what we want. Many have done this. If you like the effects of alcohol and you like to cycle, u may want to give GHB a shot. At least you will give your body gh release, and one less thing to beat up the liver. That’s why everyone always say roids and alcohol are a bad combo. Not because of drunken anger, because of the toxicity to the liver.

No I don't. Like I said whenever my doc told me my liver enzymes were slightly elevated 8 months ago he went ahead and tested me for hepatitis just to be safe. Never really thought that "slightly" elevated enzymes would be that bad of a combo with orals since my doc kinda played it off like it wasn't all that big of a deal. Was pretty much told just to take some milk thistle ed and it shouldn't be anything to worry about. Probably going to play it safe and stay away from orals from now on.