Ralox vs Nolva

[Jurgen]

As for Nolva it seems to work okay for relieving gyno symptoms, but I do get some sexual side effects.
I’ve been wanting to try Ralox as I can’t find anywhere saying it causes the same thing where Nolva it says it’s pretty common.
Anyone have experience with Ralox and if so how quickly and well did it work? Did it cause any sexual side effects like Nolva? I’ve been getting less erections in the morning and at night. Everything still works well enough but just not like I’m used to. I’m attributing it to Nolva because when I stopped taking Nolva everything was fine again.

 

[cdoubleu]

Why not give 30mg’s a try and see if you have success. Bonus if you can mitigate sides and it’s still working away at the gyno.

Worse comes to worse, you just have to bump it back up to where you were.

 

[jJjburton]

Why not give 30mg’s a try and see if you have success. Bonus if you can mitigate sides and it’s still working away at the gyno.

Worse comes to worse, you just have to bump it back up to where you were.

Yea will do so for like 4-5 days and see how that works, or will drop, as it was brutal mentally at 60 mg, total anger and frusteration

 

[cdoubleu]

So the Ralox has been knocking down gyno you’ve had since 16 hey? That’s impressive. Did you ever attempt the same with Nolva?

Whats the idea behind I-theanine for your mental sides @jJjburton?

 

[jJjburton]

So the Ralox has been knocking down gyno you’ve had since 16 hey? That’s impressive. Did you ever attempt the same with Nolva?

Whats the idea behind I-theanine for your mental sides @jJjburton?

No i did for 2 weeks but not as successful, using nolva, this ralox period 1.5 week at 120 then 60 for about 3 days was tremendous. But i was confused why i felt the way i did, just really off and i now see why.

L-theanine is amazing for being overhyped and anxious, it just lowers my overall worry, in general i take it at night and during day when overly anxious, very calming. I take it anyway. So the feeling this last week of hot flashes and things i thought it was from just my daily living, not realizing it was the ralox as i was not expecting sides that intense. And it didnt happen until last 2 days.

Maybe ill take it at a couple hours before bed. The ralox

It was super gradual until it hit hard, like tren kind of does. Sneaky

 

[jJjburton]

Maybe ill cycle it or just split in half 30 mg instead of 60

 

[test9999]

Nolvadex 20mg day
Raloxifene 60mg
Cabergoline (.25) 2x a week
2 weeks of this

This combo will knock out the most stubborn gyno, the prolactin caused gyno.

I still have a lump that I got early in this game, not knowing how to control E2, now I use ralox with every cycle. Lump still there but doesn't grow at all.

 

[jJjburton]

Nolvadex 20mg day
Raloxifene 60mg
Cabergoline (.25) 2x a week
2 weeks of this

This combo will knock out the most stubborn gyno, the prolactin caused gyno.

I still have a lump that I got early in this game, not knowing how to control E2, now I use ralox with every cycle. Lump still there but doesn't grow at all.

What dose? You use 60 every cycle with ralox? Or different to just combatting

 

[test9999]

Sorry, I should have clarified better.
I use the Ralox when using any compounds that irritate my existing gyno. Nor19s, anadrol,dbol, hcg. Yes 60mg daily.
I believe Stan carries Ralox, and I have bought in bulk before, from pct24x7

 

[jJjburton]

So back on ralox for 2 days my gyno shrunk back down to where it was before i stopped 1 week ago. So i am going to do 60 mg again, my gyno has never been so small ever, since 16. If i get these weird sides i will break the pill in half for 30 mg. I also read there is a need to taper off to prevent rebound. Will at least stay on rest of 2.5 week of high dose cycle and then assess, will see this time around.

Will update.

 

[AlphaEdge]

I hated nolva but tolerated ralox much better in terms of mental sides.

Only side effect of Ralox I've noticed is dry eyes.
Ralox gives me bigger balls too. I tried 60mg but now keep it to 30mg which I'm comfy to take consistently.

As for gyno, mine flares every now and then so Ralox helps. Am a bit hesitant to run it for the whole cycle but a few days every now and then works wonders.

 

[jJjburton]

I was taking 120 ralox for 3 days then 60 mg ralox for 2-3 weeks the sides were awful, depression and and anxiety and flushing, i cam off cycle, and tried again, same feeling, so switched to half a tab eod to taper off, since when i stopped there was rebound, i then took this week 1/4 adex with pinning days, and 1/2 ralox now 2x a week. My gyno in my right nipple is almost gone. I was on tren and deca and test, now just test and deca, but crusied for 3 weeks… so i am going to take 1/3 of a ralox on days i dont mind feeling a little off, 2-3x a week for 1 more week, and will see if it eliminates its. No kidding, now my nips just get puffy, but the lumps underneath are 1/4 the size they were from just 1 week ago, i was giving up on the protocol, but going to do 1/3 ralox here and there maybe 1 more week….


Or should i just let it be, it seems to have shrunk more since i stopped the cycle…

 

[Deskoze38192]

I’m on 60mg Ralox daily for 3 weeks so far. This week getting almost hot flashes I guess is the best way to describe it. Real hot and sweating when I normally wouldn’t be at all. Laying down in cold AC pouring sweat. But not the whole time. It’s off and on.
I’m mid blast and letting my E2 run up higher than normal for strength gains but nips are getting puffy and a little lump behind my left nip came back. Probably going to taper down to 30mg per day. Got two months left of this blast
My third time using Ralox. Stopped first time because of sides. Second time ran it end of blast and part of cruise. No noticeable sides. Excellent results. So doing some experimentation this time. The sides are manageable in my humble opinion at 60mg per day. But definitely getting hot flashes and getting anxiety sporadically, sometimes slightly severe

@jJjburton im experimenting myself so I don’t have any advice but figured I would share my current experience and dosage. Seems like some similarities with sides
I picked up raws his time and made oral suspensions

 

[jJjburton]

I’m on 60mg Ralox daily for 3 weeks so far. This week getting almost hot flashes I guess is the best way to describe it. Real hot and sweating when I normally wouldn’t be at all. Laying down in cold AC pouring sweat. But not the whole time. It’s off and on.
I’m mid blast and letting my E2 run up higher than normal for strength gains but nips are getting puffy and a little lump behind my left nip came back. Probably going to taper down to 30mg per day. Got two months left of this blast
My third time using Ralox. Stopped first time because of sides. Second time ran it end of blast and part of cruise. No noticeable sides. Excellent results. So doing some experimentation this time. The sides are manageable in my humble opinion at 60mg per day. But definitely getting hot flashes and getting anxiety sporadically, sometimes slightly severe

@jJjburton im experimenting myself so I don’t have any advice but figured I would share my current experience and dosage. Seems like some similarities with sides
I picked up raws his time and made oral suspensions

I read there is a rebound when stopping if not tapering is that true?

And two things happen to me…there is gyno, but then there is puffiness… like now my gyno is down, but they or puffy…so its od…one side shrank 1/2 cm down…

So maybe its best to run with less harsh compounds, we shall see.

I got crazy anedohnia side…

Let me know how it works for you.

 

[jJjburton]

I’m on 60mg Ralox daily for 3 weeks so far. This week getting almost hot flashes I guess is the best way to describe it. Real hot and sweating when I normally wouldn’t be at all. Laying down in cold AC pouring sweat. But not the whole time. It’s off and on.
I’m mid blast and letting my E2 run up higher than normal for strength gains but nips are getting puffy and a little lump behind my left nip came back. Probably going to taper down to 30mg per day. Got two months left of this blast
My third time using Ralox. Stopped first time because of sides. Second time ran it end of blast and part of cruise. No noticeable sides. Excellent results. So doing some experimentation this time. The sides are manageable in my humble opinion at 60mg per day. But definitely getting hot flashes and getting anxiety sporadically, sometimes slightly severe

@jJjburton im experimenting myself so I don’t have any advice but figured I would share my current experience and dosage. Seems like some similarities with sides
I picked up raws his time and made oral suspensions

Sometimes i say screw it ill just let it run high and get surgery one day, but then its really not that terrible…. Maybe a dime size on one and a 2 nickel size on other, and that depth too… but i really like when they are not puffy…like when i ran mast, they were almost completely gone…

 

[Deskoze38192]

I read there is a rebound when stopping if not tapering is that true?

And two things happen to me…there is gyno, but then there is puffiness… like now my gyno is down, but they or puffy…so its od…one side shrank 1/2 cm down…

So maybe its best to run with less harsh compounds, we shall see.

I got crazy anedohnia side…

Let me know how it works for you.

I have heard that too
I did notice that my little lump came back after stopping last time and I didn’t taper.
This time I’m going to taper and see the difference for myself

 

[Deskoze38192]

Sometimes i say screw it ill just let it run high and get surgery one day, but then its really not that terrible…. Maybe a dime size on one and a 2 nickel size on other, and that depth too… but i really like when they are not puffy…like when i ran mast, they were almost completely gone…

Yeah mine get puffy too. I’m two shirting it at the gym lately lol
When I knock my E2 down it gets better
I’m actually a low aromitizer so I have to run high aromitizing compounds with no AI to get it up a little . It’s 50-60 right now according to recent bloodwork (57). That’s the highest my E2 has ever been. Usually it’s in the 20-30 range with very minimal AI
I never had any gyno symptoms until I did a Test/Deca/Tren/HGH blast

 

[jJjburton]

Yeah mine get puffy too. I’m two shirting it at the gym lately lol
When I knock my E2 down it gets better
I’m actually a low aromitizer so I have to run high aromitizing compounds with no AI to get it up a little . It’s 50-60 right now according to recent bloodwork (57). That’s the highest my E2 has ever been. Usually it’s in the 20-30 range with very minimal AI
I never had any gyno symptoms until I did a Test/Deca/Tren/HGH blast

Geez ok, hope it gets better…maybe ill do like 15 mg ralox or 30 mg and taper down.

Will let you know what 15 mg does.

Low e2 does make it better but i have to be careful mentally too. Puffy nipples is better then feeling like shit.

 

[Deskoze38192]

Geez ok, hope it gets better…maybe ill do like 15 mg ralox or 30 mg and taper down.

Will let you know what 15 mg does.

Low e2 does make it better but i have to be careful mentally too. Puffy nipples is better then feeling like shit.

Yes your exactly right
I’m hitting all time PR’s this week so I’m not about to knock it down quite yet
Yeah I have to be careful of my mental too, so far so good, just a some anxiety with the Ralox at 60mg in the 3rd week for me

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Ralox has an affinity toward brest tissue like nolva with less sides in most. For on cycle I'd always use ralox and save nolva for pct. There is always outliers

 

[jJjburton]

Ralox has an affinity toward brest tissue like nolva with less sides in most. For on cycle I'd always use ralox and save nolva for pct. There is always outliers

What dose ralox? Seems like it doesnt have to be alot.