Rant About Religion

paid a doctor to prescribe it for her. All that matters at the end of the day.

You hit the nail on the head man.
I learned that through court. They don't care what you did, if you served time, or if you learned your lesson. At the end of the day they just want you to pay your fines and get out so they can extort the next individual.
 
The fact your own bible states god is a mass murdering, baby killer that supports slavery and all that is evil is bashing when its in your bible?

That's not bashing, it's stating biblical facts.

Disclaimer biblical facts have nothing to do with actual facts that can be demonstrated to be true.

The actual events you are referring to are old testament...hebrew texts.
They have for the most part proven to be a reliable history of the jews and the struggles that they encountered as they worked their way north from the sinai pennisula to the crossing of the jordan river near the city of Jerhico.
According to the bible God told the Israelites to utterly destroy these cultures as they moved thru the area to the lands that were promised to them earlier.
The reasons given are due to the people of the land living wild promiscuous lives...idol worship and the worship of false gods in addition to human sacrifice (typically children)
The reasoning as to why kill everyone is clear. That their would be no remaining opposition or future repercussions as the children grew up and sought revenge. Much like kids in the middle east today being trained to retaliate for the deaths of their parents..relatives etc.
There is also the doctrine that these children that have not yet reached an age of reasoning would therefore be allowed access to heaven and the presence of God.
The Jews themselves were subjected to the same fate at least twice...when Nebucanezer of Babylon destroyed Jerusalem in 700ish BC and killed nearly everyone and carried the rest off to become slaves in modern day Iraq...Then again in 70AD when Rome laid siege to Jerusalem destroying the temple and killing everyone in sight.
Both were due to the people living lives contrary to the commands of God according to the Bible.
But God also gave them and the earlier peoples time to change their ways and many warnings in many ways.
A classic example is the story of Jonah...not the belly of the fish part but the reason Jonah attempted to run from God was that God had ordered him to go to Ninevah...north east Iraq and walk thru the city announcing that God was unhappy with the people (Assyrians)and their lifestyle as a whole. If they would not repent and ask for his forgiveness then God would destroy them.
Jonah eventually did just this and the King of Assyeria( who happened to be a very well educated guy that could read and understand even the sumerian cunneiform texts that were already thousands of years old...this is according to archeological finds at the kings library in Ninevah) the king then commanded his people to repent and the city was spared for generations.
So the old testament and judaism both teach that God will give ample time to repent of behavior prior to punishment.
Christianity is different than the old testament and the teachings of judaism.
John the Baptist who foreshadowed the ministry of Jesus and Christs own message was one of repentance for falling short in day to day life individually.
The grace of God was extended to all that believed in the gospel of Christ and in his death and ressurection.
Op...this is just to clarify what is actually taught by the bible....not what is necessarily exhibited by the followers of jesus.
You had a bad experience with a very close minded professing christian...not all are wired that way.
The fact that christians in the name of christianity have carried out many of the most horrific events in human history doesnt negate the true message of the gospel as recorded in the bible.
It does however show you how sick and evil human beings can be.
 
@hurricane haha typical, its always the god believer that gets all personal and triggered.

Adults are discussing adult things so run along before you get triggermaxed.
Hurricane is just giving his point of view and it's valid. He's not trying to force his beliefs on you. No need to be an ass.
 
That's the thing about religion. The texts written are up for so much interpretation.
Honestly... I feel like this was done in purpose. Christmas and easter were combined with paegan holidays so the switch from the old religion to Christianity would jive better. I can see the same thing being done to the Bible. Being written in a way that is quite vague so people from all different regions and religions can kind of morph things to fit their lifestyles. Additionally, the Catholic Church was huge into the repentance saying that they could pay to reserve their spot in heaven. So I feel like a lot of things have been twisted to help people profit off of something that could have once been a great book about life's teachings.

Just like someone already stated on this thread. Money. It's really what everything comes down too.
With the Catholic Church I completely agree.
Hurricane is just giving his point of view and it's valid. He's not trying to force his beliefs on you. No need to be an ass.
Appreciate that bro. Thanks for the support. Much respect.
 
I'm just trying to bring a little levity into the thread. These religion threads always seem to lack it.

For the record, I'm a Southern Baptist.
I thought you had stated you were a Baptist before. Your a good dude @Kinetic. You seem like you have a really good head on your shoulders. I always like your input.
 
I thought you had stated you were a Baptist before. Your a good dude @Kinetic. You seem like you have a really good head on your shoulders. I always like your input.

Likewise, brother.

I also value the input of the atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, etc., especially those that frequent this board, which is why I find these kind of threads counterproductive and generally try to avoid them.

Every once in a while, I feel the need to chime in with a Rodney King quote or goofy meme just to try and calm tensions. Lots of good folks here. Hate to see them at each other's throats.
 
Likewise, brother.

I also value the input of the atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, etc., especially those that frequent this board, which is why I find these kind of threads counterproductive and generally try to avoid them.

Every once in a while, I feel the need to chime in with a Rodney King quote or goofy meme just to try and calm tensions. Lots of good folks here. Hate to see them at each other's throats.
Couldn't agree more. My emotions on this topic get me very heated. Which is why I should of avoided it. The funny thing is my brother is an atheist but we can talk for hours on the subject of religion because we respect each others opinions. That's what it comes down to for me. I may not agree with your opinion but I'm not going to rip you for it. All I ask is for others to respect mine. I don't think that's asking to much.
 
The old testament is still the same god. God not only condones slavery he/it gives detailed instructions on how to beat them and ownership rules etc.

@hurricane did not just give his opinion he wants god to put us in heaven so he can fight me, lol, lol. He also the only one stooping to calling people dicklickers etc and calling people a sinner according to bible gay hate.


In fact I had no clue what his beliefs were, so how the fuck did I attack him for them. Makes no sense, @hurricane is extremely triggered by shit where he wasn't even mentioned.

Proving god doesn't exist is trying to prove a negative, which is illogical. You can't prove invisible pink uniforms don't exist. Does that mean they exist? Basic logic.

Its about supporting claims with evidence, that's what grown men interested in truth do.

I can support my claims with evidence. I have only made claims about what the bible actually says.
 
Couldn't agree more. My emotions on this topic get me very heated. Which is why I should of avoided it. The funny thing is my brother is an atheist but we can talk for hours on the subject of religion because we respect each others opinions. That's what it comes down to for me. I may not agree with your opinion but I'm not going to rip you for it. All I ask is for others to respect mine. I don't think that's asking to much.
There's Ways to discuss things without acting like a jack wagon.
 
The actual events you are referring to are old testament...hebrew texts.
They have for the most part proven to be a reliable history of the jews and the struggles that they encountered as they worked their way north from the sinai pennisula to the crossing of the jordan river near the city of Jerhico.
According to the bible God told the Israelites to utterly destroy these cultures as they moved thru the area to the lands that were promised to them earlier.
The reasons given are due to the people of the land living wild promiscuous lives...idol worship and the worship of false gods in addition to human sacrifice (typically children)
The reasoning as to why kill everyone is clear. That their would be no remaining opposition or future repercussions as the children grew up and sought revenge. Much like kids in the middle east today being trained to retaliate for the deaths of their parents..relatives etc.
There is also the doctrine that these children that have not yet reached an age of reasoning would therefore be allowed access to heaven and the presence of God.
The Jews themselves were subjected to the same fate at least twice...when Nebucanezer of Babylon destroyed Jerusalem in 700ish BC and killed nearly everyone and carried the rest off to become slaves in modern day Iraq...Then again in 70AD when Rome laid siege to Jerusalem destroying the temple and killing everyone in sight.
Both were due to the people living lives contrary to the commands of God according to the Bible.
But God also gave them and the earlier peoples time to change their ways and many warnings in many ways.
A classic example is the story of Jonah...not the belly of the fish part but the reason Jonah attempted to run from God was that God had ordered him to go to Ninevah...north east Iraq and walk thru the city announcing that God was unhappy with the people (Assyrians)and their lifestyle as a whole. If they would not repent and ask for his forgiveness then God would destroy them.
Jonah eventually did just this and the King of Assyeria( who happened to be a very well educated guy that could read and understand even the sumerian cunneiform texts that were already thousands of years old...this is according to archeological finds at the kings library in Ninevah) the king then commanded his people to repent and the city was spared for generations.
So the old testament and judaism both teach that God will give ample time to repent of behavior prior to punishment.
Christianity is different than the old testament and the teachings of judaism.
John the Baptist who foreshadowed the ministry of Jesus and Christs own message was one of repentance for falling short in day to day life individually.
The grace of God was extended to all that believed in the gospel of Christ and in his death and ressurection.
Op...this is just to clarify what is actually taught by the bible....not what is necessarily exhibited by the followers of jesus.
You had a bad experience with a very close minded professing christian...not all are wired that way.
The fact that christians in the name of christianity have carried out many of the most horrific events in human history doesnt negate the true message of the gospel as recorded in the bible.
It does however show you how sick and evil human beings can be.

Good post - and I'm agnostic (not to be confused with blockhead atheists).
 
Yes I am a religious man. I love my savior Jesus Christ. But I would never tell you or anyone they're going to burn in hell or that they're a bad person. I'm not Catholic but an Anglican(church of England). What I do find offensive and I guess funny is that @Leancuisine has the courtesy to say he won't bash religion or peoples opinion, but many others posted about how Christianity is stupid, believing in God is worthless and so on. I'm not pushing my agenda on anyone nor would I. But to bash Christianity isn't needed. A simple I don't believe would be adequate. And yes the woman on the boat was out of line. I would never do that. Believe or don't believe. But whatever side you fall on there is no need to bash each others beliefs or opinions.

Amen to that brother!

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