Readalots Enhanced Testing

[readalot]

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Very doubtful

Some of the biggest names still sell shit gear fairly well.

Domestic supply comes to mind

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It is unfortunate, some people may not see eye to eye on all matters but can respect their approach. I don't see much of any benefit of this in the long run.


Whenever we go to a doctors office and they perform a scan/test. A big question is, whatever this test will say, can we do anything about it?

Some of the additional testing on raws, if it is off? what are we going to do.

Heavy metals, API off in the raw ingredients? What are we gonna do? complain to the manufacturer about the process? Does China care? No. Then ultimately, what is the harm reduction? We aren't going to change anything.

If someone has floaters, bad testing, wrong drug mixed with, poor solvents. That is a different story. Could put the guy on blast, change vendors.

The guy's approach is spamming multiple sources asking the same question. He doesn't necessarily need to spam every source asking the same thing. linking to this thread.

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been talking so much shit this whole time and haven't spent any time formulating a plan for your own testing.

Easy to ask for things to be done when it isn't out of your own pocket

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I haven't seen many source telling him to fuck off other than QSC


Its not really the message, its the messenger.

To be frank, I think ultimately it was him being annoying since coming here, constantly linking his threads from t-nation or here.

Saying "Please read my thread"


If there are indeed heavy metals in the raw, I don't think we can do anything about it unless we go directly to the manufacturer(which we know they won't care)

I do agree with @SkankHunt , the only other option is pharma

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I think the problem is

-he is linking this to every source
-he doesn't even use UGL
-he was annoying to begin with

I just feel his motives aren't truly about harm reduction but just to be irritating

 

[readalot]

Heavy metals, API off in the raw ingredients? What are we gonna do? complain to the manufacturer about the process? Does China care? No. Then ultimately, what is the harm reduction? We aren't going to change anything.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Don't let the clowns who literally put zero effort into harm reduction dissuade you.

Being a know nothing stone thrower is effortless.

Your work is well intentioned and substantial. It's merely your approach to selling it that needs tweaking with a more nuanced approach, that's all.

Well intentioned, questionable.

Substantial? Just good for data collection. So far, it isn't changing anything.

I think you're basically saying you test your own raws and do your own brewing (so controlling what you can control?). Or maybe I'm reading too much into all of that.

What does being "very against testing for things you cannot do anything about" mean? Are you saying even if there is bacterial contamination, endotoxin detected to a significant level etc.,.it doesn't matter because we are powerless to change the process? (I'm not asking to be a smartass... legitimately trying to understand what you are objecting to... obvious you and Readalot have a history that I was not around for).

Do tests to where you can create an intervention to improve the process.

Let me ask you. What do you think can be done for this testing?
You think people will stop buying this cheap Chinese oil?

mostly borne from having to reply to being mocked incessantly). Again, I at least understand the nuance if you're just "over hearing it".

It's his method to deliver the message. Guy is a complete pain in the ass.

Now he is just putting himself on a pedestal on how much money he spent on testing.

depletes Stan's stock

Why keep buying from Stan? He isn't adhering to readalots guidelines for improved testing?

 

[BigNoOne]

edit: deleted.

Pointless effort now.

 

[readalot]

Now he is just putting himself on a pedestal on how much money he spent on testing.

Utter BS. You mocked me when I had not tested. Now you say I am bragging. Lol. Ain't no solution with you or the other fella.

Someone asked me how much. I answered. In the grand scheme it ain't alot.

 

[readalot]

Why keep buying from Stan? He isn't adhering to readalots guidelines for improved testing?

When/if he does some of those tests, whatcha gonna say then?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

When/if he does some of those tests, whatcha gonna say then?

What are you going to do if he doesn't?

 

[readalot]

What are you going to do if he doesn't?

Keep on truckin'.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Utter BS. You mocked me when I had not tested. Now you say I am bragging. Lol. Ain't no solution with you or the other fella.

Someone asked me how much. I answered. In the grand scheme it ain't alot.

That post was nearly a year ago.


Now you spent some money. I have seen you complain and bitch multiple times about how your money went to waste, etc.

You literally just put money in because you don't even order crap yourself.

This whole thing holds little to no value overall process improvement. LOL

 

[readalot]

Now you spent some money. I have seen you complain and bitch multiple times about how your money went to waste, etc.

Went to waste? Another hallucination. Maybe you confused that with a call to action to get people over their apathy.

You literally just put money in because you don't even order crap yourself.

What does this even mean? Huh?

When I find an appropriate vendor I'll take my place in line.

 

[readalot]

Easy to ask for things to be done when it isn't out of your own pocket

You literally just put money in because you don't even order crap yourself.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Went to waste? Another hallucination. Maybe you confused that with a call to action to get people over their apathy

Strange. I stepped up (with assistance of trusted collaborators) and spent my hard earned ~3000 USD to advance the mission. I don't make any money off this stuff. I lose money.

You can't use the same resource I did?

Post in thread 'Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)'

Jan 23, 2024

I’m not against adding more testing. My stance is that unfortunately I don’t think it’ll change anything. Let’s say a sample comes back with slight amounts of heavy metals, what are customers gunna do? There’s no other options besides going intl for pharma. Majority of guys don’t want do deal with customs which is why the UGL market is so big. You would think this would make guys second guess what they’re injecting but who knows. I’ve seen dudes buy vials of Tren from some guy brewing on a hot plate in a tent.

I tend to agree with you. But that does nothing to change the harm...

• Millard

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I fucked up everyone. Got confused somehow. Millard got in my head and messed me up good. I wish he would quit teasing us. Now I see how the error of my ways!

My apologies. I won't waste another second of anyone's time having to click past all my bullshit. What a fool to waste my money and time. Everything is just fine. First it was "shut up and spend your own money". Now it's "you spent your money and are wasting everyone's time".

Sorry everyone. My bad.

A really big apology to @Excel.exe... sorry bro, I am going to let you down.

If only that were true. After over a year here and about 3000 USD spent on lifting the skirt, the fact of the matter is very few care on here care about harm reduction.

People make time for what they deem important. The $3000 usd I recently spent on this is nothing compared to the time and opportunity cost I've spent here in the last 13 months.

It's going to take people's time and some money. What are you willing and able to contribute? Start there.

Now that reminds me I gotta make that appt at my local psych ward.

You are attempting to shift the burden onto the wrong party. It's not my job to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars yearly to find something concerning even though I did spend my 3000 USD to demonstrate the process and still I get shit.

It's the job of the community (if they deem worthwhile) to insist on surveillance to find stuff when it is present (just like HPLC today). I've already explained that but go ahead and continue being obtuse I guess.

Yep, way to ignore my comments again. Your motivations are getting clearer to me. At first I thought they might actually be constructive. But tonight showed me alot.

Spending 3000 USD on testing is now Folly here on Meso? Who do you work for?

Lol

 

[readalot]

Lol

LOL indeed.

You don't get sarcasm and debate very well, do you?

Here's where I struggle interacting with you:

Definition of GOOD FAITH

honesty or lawfulness of purpose… See the full definition

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good faith Definition, Meaning & Usage | Justia Legal Dictionary

good faith - A sincere intention to be fair, honest and lawful in one's actions or dealings, without any aim to deceive or cheat

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Regardless, I think our time would be better served working together supporting viable alternatives to QSC/gutter gear rather than this current trajectory.