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RekTest
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This is getting on the verge of weird now. Not sure Im following…
readalot
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A final comment tonight...
You'll notice the sterility test was not included in my updated list earlier today. There has been some robust discussion on this here in the thread. I'll comment more later.
You'll notice the sterility test was not included in my updated list earlier today. There has been some robust discussion on this here in the thread. I'll comment more later.
readalot
Member
No worries. We were already there. Peace Brother.
iris
Well-known Member
I have no idea.
Maybe you can tell him this was not a conversation we had about this specifically/exclusively, only that this was something we ended up writing about, amongst other things, which included you telling me you are going to filter what you use.
Maybe now it will make a bit more sense.
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
I can tell you a lot of them in the US don't have that equipment
To order such large piece of equipment WILL RAISE red flags.
YOU are definitely in the wrong train of thought to be asking such a thing.
Asking a source to reveal information about equipment he uses? (Yes I know you are a customer). but it is violating his OPSEC that if he or he does not use that heavy machinery.
Spend some time trying to understand practice of brewing and achieving sterility.
I am not trying to sound like a dick but this is very basic knowledge and its something you will need to spend some time reading.
iris
Well-known Member
It was asked but then accepted that revealing what exactly is used is a no.
I am saying he is not in the wrong train of thought to consider asking the source's opinion and stance on this and how it reflects on his practices.
That is all.
The same way you and others have discussed the merits of this testing protocol for ugl.
In the end, for me, it boils down to this.
To the actual reality and practicalities that were pointed out by you and others.
Do we want to know the details?
No. [Edit: yes, I would, just to put it all into perspective. But if it is not possible, so be it].
Do we want to know if and how this is relevant to what Stan does (since he was asked, specifically)?
Yes
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Ateam2023
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narta
Member
True sterility needs a HEPA filtered, positive pressure clean room, with a disinfecting cage before entering said room, that has been under air circulation at least 1h before starting any operations. On top of that, any exposed to the air transfers need to be done under a TRUE flow hood.
I bet my left raisin sized nut NO domestic ugl has those facilities in place and maybe a few large scale operations abroad have them. And that's a maybe
Edit: @iris liter thinks because I posted ONE goggle transalted Chinese post in qsc thread that I am a chinaman operative. Read too because I stated the obvious, that qsc is on par with any ugl out there. They are fixated in their view and you or anyone can't change that. Waste of energy, if you ask me.
I bet my left raisin sized nut NO domestic ugl has those facilities in place and maybe a few large scale operations abroad have them. And that's a maybe
Edit: @iris liter thinks because I posted ONE goggle transalted Chinese post in qsc thread that I am a chinaman operative. Read too because I stated the obvious, that qsc is on par with any ugl out there. They are fixated in their view and you or anyone can't change that. Waste of energy, if you ask me.
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RekTest
Member
It is absolutely crazy you think qsc is on par with other ugls
Get tracy out your mouth, or stay on your knees for him i dont really care
Get tracy out your mouth, or stay on your knees for him i dont really care
narta
Member
Oh man, you reckt me with that comment. I am going to eat some tacos, chicken wings, drink a few diet cokes and blast huge amounts of gear to compensate.
narta
Member
Kido, go speak to someone on the street like that and you will have your face rearranged. We are neck full with keyboard g's that end up everyone's bitch in the joint
RekTest
Member
Ill say the same thing straight to your face, you aint tough your pussu on his knees for qsc, ABSOLUTELY the worst source here
Edit: i cant get banned for reasons so must make this edit to remove words but dms are open
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RekTest
Member
Well tried to clean up my post and it got auto mod, i didnt delete anything so you know
iris
Well-known Member
You guuuuuuuys.....
Right.
I think it's established this stuff is fanciful.
Also, we were informed that the sterility requirement was removed from the list of tests.
Minus 1.
So, aside from purity, which is already standard requirement, let's see how the other ones fare.
Qsc posted results, earlier, that included metal testing, I think.
What do you think about that?
Do you think it is useful, for orals?
(Please don't bring up the Matrix accident, that's another thing).
I thought you said almond, not raisin, some time ago.
I must have missed recent developments.
Well, Chinese ones, it's likely you are right.
In a way or another we see them all mess up, in similar ways.
Domestic (US) not quite, I think.
Sure, if you throw someone as crap as Axle in the mix then it makes sense.
But there are superior alternatives for the guys in the US.
Assuming they want better things for themselves.
If not, we all know where they go.
And I have to say that, at this point, I am like ok, your choice.
You know what the deal is.
Is that good enough for you?
If nobody is prepared to fight battles for their own interest, if all you get back is insults and sarcasm, farewell. You do you.
Right.
I think it's established this stuff is fanciful.
Also, we were informed that the sterility requirement was removed from the list of tests.
Minus 1.
So, aside from purity, which is already standard requirement, let's see how the other ones fare.
Qsc posted results, earlier, that included metal testing, I think.
What do you think about that?
Do you think it is useful, for orals?
(Please don't bring up the Matrix accident, that's another thing).
I thought you said almond, not raisin, some time ago.
I must have missed recent developments.
Well, Chinese ones, it's likely you are right.
In a way or another we see them all mess up, in similar ways.
Domestic (US) not quite, I think.
Sure, if you throw someone as crap as Axle in the mix then it makes sense.
But there are superior alternatives for the guys in the US.
Assuming they want better things for themselves.
If not, we all know where they go.
And I have to say that, at this point, I am like ok, your choice.
You know what the deal is.
Is that good enough for you?
If nobody is prepared to fight battles for their own interest, if all you get back is insults and sarcasm, farewell. You do you.
narta
Member
Orals need magnetic sieves and proper excipients and binders. Stomach acid naturalizes everything else.
Commercial? Doubt. Most of them use top bottle filters. Few use inline and that's a whole different beast. I would trust someone that is a meticulous homebrewer more than a commercial ugl. Does that mean I would use qsc finished oils? Nope, not without filtering to sterile vials again.
I have debated again and again that extended testing (that matters and it's in the realm of possibility) can't be standardized, simply because you don't have a UGL FDA equivalent authority. Why does pharma gear cost more even at cheap places that are readily available without a prescription i.e. Thailand? Because they need to operate with pharma standards. Their raws are probably a whole lot cheaper than any ugl due to volume so what drives the cost even with the obscene production volume? Standards that are ENFORCED. We CAN'T enforce shit on UGLs, period.
narta
Member
k mate.
Apocalypzz
New Member
It’s a thread with good intentions, but the tests were conducted by Jano, who was exposed a while ago, making them pretty much worthless
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