Throwback
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Maybe atlas could make a donation to anabolic labs and millard or whoever could get some product and test it....however that process works.
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insertnamehere
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Not trying to beat up on you but I just want to make a distinction on this post. AL isn't for hire as your post suggests. All the purchases are made anonymously and randomly (although coordinated). Making a donation will not "purchase" or otherwise secure an analysis through AL.
Atlas, or anyone else for that matter, can contact SIMEC directly to purchase analytical testing services.
insertnamehere
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Someone please get me up to speed here as I don't have the time to go through everything at the moment.
@vidocq had posted testing data on test-e raws he personally ordered and received directly from SIMEC and @grademan posted the exact same data (invoice number, etc) to provide evidence for the quality of Atlas products?
@vidocq had posted testing data on test-e raws he personally ordered and received directly from SIMEC and @grademan posted the exact same data (invoice number, etc) to provide evidence for the quality of Atlas products?
Roger rabbit
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@grademan wasn't showing evidence he was saying " is this what you want to see" as in giving a example.
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@grademan posted the exact same report that @vidocq had originally posted for raws he sent off personally. Grademan never specifically claimed they were from Atlas raws, he asked if that was the type of report we wanted to see. The part I find specifically odd is he claims that report came in an email from a "personal friend" that also brews and that he and Atlas use the same raw supplier.
Unless Vidocq is the personal friend why would they both have the EXACT same lab report?
They wouldn't. Unless of course we believe in lottery type odds of occurrence.
vidocq
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The person from whom I received the raw test enth IS apparently friends with grademan, and I obviously did share the simec test (with my name blacked out) with that source. So grademan could have gotten the simec test from that person.
My issue was only what was addressed above, that it sounded like grademan was trying to pass off my simec test as if it was a test of atlas labs raws. But it seems he has since clarified that it was NOT a test of atlas raws, it was simply being used as an example of what people here want to see.
My issue was only what was addressed above, that it sounded like grademan was trying to pass off my simec test as if it was a test of atlas labs raws. But it seems he has since clarified that it was NOT a test of atlas raws, it was simply being used as an example of what people here want to see.
Honestly didn't see that coming. Had no reason not to believe grademan but damn it's a small world.
Throwback
Well-known Member
Yeah but why would anyone trust atlas simec result....my point was that atlas should donate if they want to be active within this community as a source. How AL aqquires their product to test is irrelevent as long as it is an annonymous purchase and it is not something sent in by atlas.
That was what I meant.
So i agree with you 100%
insertnamehere
New Member
My point of saying atlas, or anyone else, purchasing services from SIMEC was not in reference to something atlas should do, only that it should be separate from AL. As you know, Al needs to maintain its integrity, which brings me to the statement in your post about atlas (sources) donating if they want to be active here.
Now while I do believe in AL and want to see it funded, the idea that sources need to pay to play here is not the case either, and furthermore, that ideal can undermine the integrity of Meso and AL. The sources here abuse the uncensored unmoderated format to sell their products, period. Having them donate seems like a great way for them to make up for this insult. However, if the solicitation for donation is marketed with a Meso stamp of approval, not only is the integrity of the program undermined but people that are new to sourcing AAS are more likely to perceive sources that donate as "Meso approved." IMO, this is not a good way promote donations.
I'm all for sources donating to AL but not with the promise or proclamation (implied or otherwise) of them being "Meso approved". These sources are only as good as their last batch, no matter how much they donate to AL. After all, donating, posting blood work, members blood work and/or anecdotal member reports all achieve the same purpose for he source - marketing and sales. No matter how much sources say they care about members, they only care about money. What other reason is there to risk so much to source in the open like this? There is no reason except money.
Got a little ranty there, I apologize. To sum it up: I agree with you too but with some slight distinctions.
Throwback
Well-known Member
Actually you make great points and i agree with all....i hereby appoint you to make the argument for a Clinton presidency......good luck!
Maktub
Well-known Member
Its been like 7 weeks since this guy showed up ;
and 6 weeks since the firsts "members started Placing orders.
Some supposedly were running this shits shit .
But no bloods to prove so far
Not a single one from a wkm or AM
and 6 weeks since the firsts "members started Placing orders.
Some supposedly were running this shits shit .
But no bloods to prove so far
Not a single one from a wkm or AM
Bakersbound
Member
Hey all I've been on the down low so far and just keeping up with all posts.reason I haven't ran bloods is I've stated before I was already running different gear which was biotech.and stated after that cycle I'd run before mid and after bloods on atlas product.yes I know it doesn't mean Shit right now but I'm still going to hold up to my word
Bakersbound
Member
And yesterday was my last pin which put me at a 10 week first cycle and still have to run my pct so it'll be a little while till I get bloods and results from atlas.I do in fact have enough of his gear just waiting for my next cycle though.
How long are you staying off after PCT?
Bakersbound
Member
What I've read for a 10 week cycle it's 4-6 weeks on pct right?and ibshould be able to start my next cycle?correct me if I'm wrong
Bakersbound
Member
That's what I have the wkm for!guidance and knowledge
I've been told time on equals time off. That's what I've been doing. But 12 weeks on and 12 weeks off takes forever
That's kinda what I thought I had seen you mention before. What's the point in PCT if you plan to jump right back on afterwards? Usually what I've seen reccomended is time on/including PCT = time off. So 10 weeks on + 2-4 weeks before starting PCT + 4 week PCT = 16-18 weeks off.
Disclaimer; I have no personal experience with this, just a lot of reading. Plus I'm on TRT so it's not really a concern of mine. I am positive if I'm off I will be corrected and rightfully so.
I do know @Eman & @CdnGuy were just discussing this the other day. Maybe they can assist.
Roger rabbit
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It should really be dictated by your bloods my man.
Get post cycle bloods.
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