Bakersbound
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That's why I said 4-6 so yeah now maybe 6-8 weeks.also seen 2-4 weeks after last pin which was yesterday 7/27/16 and I'll wait 2 weeks then run some nolva for 4 weeks.and I should be able to just jump right back on a cycle right?
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I've included my Pct as time off. Not sure if that's ideal. But I have got my blood done to make sure I was back to my prebloods levels before I jumped back on the horse. But I've only completed two cycles. On my third now. I'm still a noobThat's kinda what I thought I had seen you mention before. What's the point in PCT if you plan to jump right back on afterwards? Usually what I've seen reccomended is time on/including PCT = time off. So 10 weeks on + 2-4 weeks before starting PCT + 4 week PCT = 16-18 weeks off.
Disclaimer; I have no personal experience with this, just a lot of reading. Plus I'm on TRT so it's not really a concern of mine. I am positive if I'm off I will be corrected and rightfully so.
Pct beginning time depends on what AAS and esters you are using. You my have already said what your running idk.That's why I said 4-6 so yeah now maybe 6-8 weeks.also seen 2-4 weeks after last pin which was yesterday 7/27/16 and I'll wait 2 weeks then run some nolva for 4 weeks.and I should be able to just jump right back on a cycle right?
That's why I said 4-6 so yeah now maybe 6-8 weeks.also seen 2-4 weeks after last pin which was yesterday 7/27/16 and I'll wait 2 weeks then run some nolva for 4 weeks.and I should be able to just jump right back on a cycle right?
And this was my first cycle.had no issues with puffy or swollen or painful nipples.no shrinkage of the sack.mybsex drive went up and gained noticeable size.but I do know a lot of it doesn't mean Shit without pre mid and after bloods.I want to do my remaning cycles the right way.thanks to Meso that's what I'll be doing
Actually until you are experienced enough to know your own body and how it reacts, mid cycle bloods are quite helpful. One thing it will show you is whether or not you need an ai or possibly adjust it up or down. Years of experience later probably isn't all that important but I think for non experienced people it is quite useful.In my opinion mid cycle bloods don't mean anything. Pre and post are the important ones.
Edit: unless you are just checking to see if your gear is doing its thing.
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Actually until you are experienced enough to know your own body and how it reacts, mid cycle bloods are quite helpful. One thing it will show you is whether or not you need an ai or possibly adjust it up or down. Years of experience later probably isn't all that important but I think for non experienced people it is quite useful.
Again, early on I find getting bloods mid cycle helps you understand how your body reacts to the compounds you are running. Perhaps you prefer guessing, I personally would not if I was a beginner. I don't personally do mid cycle bloods anymore but I did for a few years and I wouldn't discourage anyone from doing so.According to @drjim the e2 number is just a number. Unless you are experiencing symptoms then the e2 number doesn't mean anything.
Also high estrogen is beneficial in bodybuilding strength size etc come from this.
Itchy nipples etc is a clear sign that a ai could be needed. But being on a "bloat cycle" and getting some water retention isn't necessarily a sign to start taking a ai. IMO.
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Again, early on I find getting bloods mid cycle helps you understand how your body reacts to the compounds you are running. Perhaps you prefer guessing, I personally would not if I was a beginner. I don't personally do mid cycle bloods anymore but I did for a few years and I wouldn't discourage anyone from doing so.
Actually you make great points and i agree with all....i hereby appoint you to make the argument for a Clinton presidency......good luck!
Brothers, I apologize for not getting mid cycle bloods. I had debit card fraud a few weeks back and had to substitute Atlas test with some other test I had on hand for a couple weeks.
@Bakersbound follow this^That's kinda what I thought I had seen you mention before. What's the point in PCT if you plan to jump right back on afterwards? Usually what I've seen reccomended is time on/including PCT = time off. So 10 weeks on + 2-4 weeks before starting PCT + 4 week PCT = 16-18 weeks off.
Disclaimer; I have no personal experience with this, just a lot of reading. Plus I'm on TRT so it's not really a concern of mine. I am positive if I'm off I will be corrected and rightfully so.
I do know @Eman & @CdnGuy were just discussing this the other day. Maybe they can assist.
