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[legendary]

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370

 

[Geterdun]

I guess I don't know what your comparing his number to saying it seems under dosed. I know there was a blood test recently from a different source that came back at 1700 and there wasn't to many people saying under dosed. I think it all is related to the individual persons chemistry. If he dropped to 500mgs 2 weeks prior to his test, and the study says 600mgs should be around 2370, isn't that inline?

 

[legendary]

I say it's on point. 2 weeks out of 750 and at 500

 

[Geterdun]

I say it's on point. 2 weeks out of 750 and at 500

I agree brother, 100%! Again, I'm not saying to use this source. I would never give the go ahead with any source. It's everyone's choice to make.

@Throwback thank you sir for your contribution. Please keep everyone informed of when you pay for the other members bloods. The more the better. Now if we could get some Simec testing done on a regular basis...

 

[penche]

Thanks for the BW. 500mg should net you a little over 3000ng/dl. He was at 750mg then dropped it 2 weeks ago hormone should still linger for 21 days or so. Then he was pinning the 500mg On top of the lingering high dose. Yes that's underdosed in my opinion. This is on 480mg test spit dose. 48hrs after draw.



His was 26hrs after draw. That number should be in the upper 3000ng/dl

 

[insertnamehere]

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370

What dosing protocol are these numbers based on? When was blood drawn relative to last pin?

The best method to determine product concentration, other than analytical testing, is to have an established dose to response history with prescription testosterone. But absent of that, it can be difficult to determine how the product is dosed when the numbers come back within a range seen posted by many users.

For me, I need to see my dose response near 10x. This is based on established blood work with prescription test. Additionally, I use the same exact dosing and blood draw protocol so I'm comparing apples to apples the best I can.

I believe I remember you stating you have established blood work?

 

[Geterdun]

@penche I'm not being a dick asking you this brother... Just curious of your opinion on this question.

Do you feel everyone will get the same results on the same dose? If your test come back at 3552, mine should be the same taking the same dose? I would say within a certain average, but what that average is, I can't answer...

 

[Throwback]

Thanks for the BW. 500mg should net you a little over 3000ng/dl. He was at 750mg then dropped it 2 weeks ago hormone should still linger for 21 days or so. Then he was pinning the 500mg On top of the lingering high dose. Yes that's underdosed in my opinion. This is on 480mg test spit dose. 48hrs after draw.



His was 26hrs after draw. That number should be in the upper 3000ng/dl

I agree....if you look back on this thread you will see that i have questioned this test e dosing since i began running it.
It could be merely underdosed raws....or for all u conspracy theorists something more sinister.
Its not real bad but imo not quite where i hoped it would be. Maybe i expected too much...
Anyway...im running his tren a....happy with it and i have some sust to try out next.
So....the saga continues.

 

[insertnamehere]

And yeah, based on the info provided, I say it's under dosed.

 

[Geterdun]

@grademan can you shed some light on this number?

Does anyone still have an unopened vial of the Test E?

 

[TrySepts]

I fail to see how a conclusion of underdosed can be reached without first considering that each individual will process AAS differently. I don't see any merit in the conclusory statement that a certain dosage of test will result in a particular level of test in every individual's body. If that were the case, then TRT doses of pharma grade Test would all be standardized to a single amount - which they are not. Some guys take 75mg a week to reach particular mark and others take 150mg or more to reach that same mark.

The gear may very well be underdosed for all I know, but when reviewing these labs I think we need to account for individual differences in processing AAS as well before jumping to conclusions.

 

[legendary]

Thanks for the BW. 500mg should net you a little over 3000ng/dl. He was at 750mg then dropped it 2 weeks ago hormone should still linger for 21 days or so. Then he was pinning the 500mg On top of the lingering high dose. Yes that's underdosed in my opinion. This is on 480mg test spit dose. 48hrs after draw.



His was 26hrs after draw. That number should be in the upper 3000ng/dl

I'm not sticking up for the lab. But I haven't seen 500ml give well over 3k

 

[legendary]

@grademan can you shed some light on this number?

Does anyone still have an unopened vial of the Test E?

I have test C not E

 

[penche]

@penche I'm not being a dick asking you this brother... Just curious of your opinion on this question.

Do you feel everyone will get the same results on the same dose? If your test come back at 3552, mine should be the same taking the same dose? I would say within a certain average, but what that average is, I can't answer...

You're good bro, I agree everyone does metabolize testosterone differently. However, in my opinion we're not that different. Majority of the members who pin 500mg per week split dose, range in the 3000~4000ng/dl. The red flag I call underdose was throwback was on 750mg for several weeks, came off, went
to 500mg and then he drew 26 hrs after pin. It should be higher.

When I was using pharm grade test, brand is Sun Pharma from CVS. 200mg per week only. I Pinned only once per week not split dose. Here are some labs. First labs are 3 days after pin.


Second set of labs are 7 Days AFTER pin

 

[Oak707]

@Throwback have you ran 500mg a week before and been tested? If so, Where were you at with your test levels? I test in the mid 500's on Watson prescription at 100 MG a week. So about 5.5x on prescription trt. That looks like where you are at. I've also tested around during 4700 on about 620 of 24k test c. But we all know he was overdosed.

 

[legendary]

You're good bro, I agree everyone does metabolize testosterone differently. However, in my opinion we're not that different. Majority of the members who pin 500mg per week split dose, range in the 3000~4000ng/dl. The red flag I call underdose was throwback was on 750mg for several weeks, came off, went
to 500mg and then he drew 26 hrs after pin. It should be higher.

When I was using pharm grade test, brand is Sun Pharma from CVS. 200mg per week only. I Pinned only once per week not split dose. Here are some labs. First labs are 3 days after pin.


Second set of labs are 7 Days AFTER pin

You were over 1500 with 200? Dam I'm at like 800 with 200

 

[Deepwaters1987]

I agree were all differrent too. Part of what i based my opinion on was i thought @Throwback said he usually came in at mid 3000 range. I take 150 mg a week to come in at where @legendary comes in at 200mg. And i know majority of guys only need 100mg a week for those same results. So ultimately my opinion is just that an opinion. @Throwback can you shed some light on where your labs usually fall with this dose and drawing schedule?

 

[legendary]

Atleast we know it's not bunk. And if under dosed it is by what 20%

 

[Oak707]

You're good bro, I agree everyone does metabolize testosterone differently. However, in my opinion we're not that different. Majority of the members who pin 500mg per week split dose, range in the 3000~4000ng/dl. The red flag I call underdose was throwback was on 750mg for several weeks, came off, went
to 500mg and then he drew 26 hrs after pin. It should be higher.

When I was using pharm grade test, brand is Sun Pharma from CVS. 200mg per week only. I Pinned only once per week not split dose. Here are some labs. First labs are 3 days after pin.


Second set of labs are 7 Days AFTER pin

I got my bloodwork off Watson 100mg 4 days after I pinned and I was mid 500. You were about 7x I'm about 5x on prescription ription. That can be a big difference once you bump up the dosage. You could be well over 4,000 off 600mg and I would be around 3,000. So it can vary. Still I was hoping to see higher numbers. Either way I may bump up from 600 to 750.

 

[Geterdun]

Those are great numbers for sure. I know my TRT at 250, 2x week pin I come in at 800. However, I have absorption rate issues, so I can't use my results to compare.

Mine was Watson