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[Deepwaters1987]

Atleast we know it's not bunk. And if under dosed it is by what 20%

Thats what im thinking too. Im thinking instead of 600mg i might run 750mg. I'll know for sure after my test next week. If it is 20% underdosed I should come in high 500's.

Edit: One of these days when i stop being a hoarder with my pharma I'll run a blast on it. Then I'll know exactly where i should be at that dose. My wife always makes fun of me because i wont inject my pharma exept 3-4 weeks before labs cause i want to stock it up.

 

[legendary]

You're good bro, I agree everyone does metabolize testosterone differently. However, in my opinion we're not that different. Majority of the members who pin 500mg per week split dose, range in the 3000~4000ng/dl. The red flag I call underdose was throwback was on 750mg for several weeks, came off, went
to 500mg and then he drew 26 hrs after pin. It should be higher.

When I was using pharm grade test, brand is Sun Pharma from CVS. 200mg per week only. I Pinned only once per week not split dose. Here are some labs. First labs are 3 days after pin.


Second set of labs are 7 Days AFTER pin

You wanna hear something crazy. My cvs uses Watson. They switch to sun pharma. I get halfway thru the bottle it crashed I feel like shit. I go get bloods. Test comes in at 299

 

[legendary]

What dosing protocol are these numbers based on? When was blood drawn relative to last pin?

The best method to determine product concentration, other than analytical testing, is to have an established dose to response history with prescription testosterone. But absent of that, it can be difficult to determine how the product is dosed when the numbers come back within a range seen posted by many users.

For me, I need to see my dose response near 10x. This is based on established blood work with prescription test. Additionally, I use the same exact dosing and blood draw protocol so I'm comparing apples to apples the best I can.

I believe I remember you stating you have established blood work?

I'm never near 10x on trt pharm

 

[penche]

You wanna hear something crazy. My cvs uses Watson. They switch to sun pharma. I get halfway thru the bottle it crashed I feel like shit. I go get bloods. Test comes in at 299

Damn never heard of that. I go through compound pharmacy now.

 

[insertnamehere]

I'm never near 10x on trt pharm

Yeah, it seems like I'm more of an outlier compared to other numbers I've seen reported.

A point of consideration to my numbers, however, is that I take HCG too. I've never independently tested the effect of HCG on my numbers so when I say x10, it includes whatever effect the HCG is giving me about 48hrs after injection, 36hrs after test injection.

 

[legendary]

I stopped using hcg.

 

[legendary]

Damn never heard of that. I go through compound pharmacy now.

I think I have a pic somewhere.

 

[insertnamehere]

I stopped using hcg.

Why?

I like having normal sized balls and the ability to rival a porn star status finish haha. But, I do think it contributes (anecdotally) to E2 management issues.

 

[Oak707]

Those are great numbers for sure. I know my TRT at 250, 2x week pin I come in at 800. However, I have absorption rate issues, so I can't use my results to compare.

Mine was Watson

When I started I got sun pharmacies test c and was only prescribed 100mg every other week. Got blood drawn in between shots and was a little over 300. I think around 330. I started at 260. Told my doc I'm not sticking myself with needless to be in the 300'secondary. He bumped it up to 200 every two weeks. I took it upon myself to pin 100mg every week I stead of 200 every 2 weeks. My last bloodwork was 520 at 100mg a week. @penche is getting way better than me. Id rather be at the top of normal but my docotor thinks im right where "we" want to be..lol.

 

[Geterdun]

When I started I got sun pharmacies test c and was only prescribed 100mg every other week. Got blood drawn in between shots and was a little over 300. I think around 330. I started at 260. Told my doc I'm not sticking myself with needless to be in the 300'secondary. He bumped it up to 200 every two weeks. I took it upon myself to pin 100mg every week I stead of 200 every 2 weeks. My last bloodwork was 520 at 100mg a week. @penche is getting way better than me. Id rather be at the top of normal but my docotor thinks im right where "we" want to be..lol.

My Doc is my best friend, so I definitely have benefits most don't.

 

[legendary]

Why?

I like having normal sized balls and the ability to rival a porn star status finish haha. But, I do think it contributes (anecdotally) to E2 management issues.

Idk just lazy I guess. And when I start using it my balls hurt way too bad.

 

[legendary]

My Doc is my best friend, so I definitely have benefits most don't.

Fucker!

 

[Deepwaters1987]

Idk just lazy I guess. And when I start using it my balls hurt way too bad.

Thats how I am. Ive got 4 or 5 hcg kits saved up now. My wife can't keep up when I use it and my balls start hurting bad. I turn into a different person cause I get feelings of being overwhelmed and balls feeling like someone kicked me until I get off.

 

[Throwback]

@Throwback have you ran 500mg a week before and been tested? If so, Where were you at with your test levels? I test in the mid 500's on Watson prescription at 100 MG a week. So about 5.5x on prescription trt. That looks like where you are at. I've also tested around during 4700 on about 620 of 24k test c. But we all know he was overdosed.

I dont have the paperwork but early on using 24k test e at 500mg weekly they came back at 3490 or 3590. ...

 

[Geterdun]

I dont have the paperwork but early on using 24k test e at 500mg weekly they came back at 3490 or 3590. ...

How many of us are kicking our own asses for not stocking up on 24K before he closed! SMFH

 

[Deepwaters1987]

How many of us are kicking our own asses for not stocking up on 24K before he closed! SMFH

When i joined meso i read through a ton of the 24k thread. I thought man this guy sounds solid. I skipped to the end to see current situation with the ugl. He had just shut down shop. My heart broke a little lol

 

[johnnydoe]

When i joined meso i read through a ton of the 24k thread. I thought man this guy sounds solid. I skipped to the end to see current situation with the ugl. He had just shut down shop. My heart broke a little lol

I have 2ml of test E from him left. It will be gone in a few days......sad stuff. Wish he was still around.

 

[Heynow]

@grademan can you shed some light on this number?

Does anyone still have an unopened vial of the Test E?

I have 5 unopened. Received a few weeks ago.

 

[Geterdun]

I have 5 unopened. Received a few weeks ago.

Interested in getting one tested? Maybe we can get Atlas and Grademan to reimburse you the vial and cost? Won't be completely anonymous, but it will be something I guess.

 

[legendary]

I dont have the paperwork but early on using 24k test e at 500mg weekly they came back at 3490 or 3590. ...

And didn't most people report 24k overdosed?