Regaining ball size

[Chris U.]

Hi
I been on either TRT dose of 175-200 mg a week. (I'm avg 200# 5'9, 14% bf ). I been doing low to moderate dosage cycles, currently 200 mg mast + 250 test e / each per week + 5 mg mk677/day + just added 30 mg anavar. My highest use in past year has been 150 nan prop + 250 test e + 300 primo / week plus the 5 mg mk daily. I do about 250 iu hcg 3x week and 6.5 mg (25 mg pills cut in 1/4) 3-4 x a week. I always test high for estro every time it's randomly tested, so I keep that in my regimen. I might need even to go higher.
*My balls are less full usually (sometimes they are ok lol) than years ago before I did any peds. What can I do to bring them back? I've read threads where guys go for years doing maintenance HCG like I am and balls are fine. Do I need to up my dosse for a while, etc? They arent tiny, but are smaller and tighter :-/
TIA

 

[SonhoDourado]

Per my reproductive urologist:1500-2000I.U a week to maintain fertility and testicular size. No guarantees yet the old adage of 250 i.u 2x a week is very outdated per the dr.- especially as we get older/the longer you're on trt or gear.

After coming off for 7 months for fertility I went back on in May of this year. Have been using that protocol and they feel 75% of what they felt when I was off pushing clomid + 3300 i.u of hcg 3x a week. Definitely not as full and noticeable but not rasins either. Hope that helps a tad.

 

[Chris U.]

TY for that.. I wish I could afford that much hcg. $50 or more for 5,000 IU , 3300 a week is 10,000 iu, $100 a week at least, wow. The recommended you mentioned is $50 a week at least, $200 a month. I dont know if I value my balls THAT much :-D. . I guess I'll have to live with my tighter balls lol, it's mainly a tightness , the size is ok just 1/3 less or so than before ped use.

 

[HermesLabs]

Those are huge dosages... 500 iu helped me 3x a week for 4 weeks every time I blast. Basically 3 times a year

 

[Burly]

Up your dose HCG to 500iu EOD

 

[Gigantic]

I used 500 iu twice a week and mostly retained my balls while on 900mg of gear weekly.

After switching to 50mg/day of Clomid exclusively (with no exogenous test) for 6 months, my balls grew to 2x their normal size and my "natural" testosterone levels almost quadrupled. I love my balls. Not sure I'll need a cycle anymore.

 

[Chris U.]

Thanks Hermes, Burly and Gigantic. I'm going to do the 500 iu 3x a week

 

[Scruf]

I am on HRT and have found that enclopmiphine has been very effective for keeping my snoop dog nuts.

 

[Swedishsteel]

I used 500 iu twice a week and mostly retained my balls while on 900mg of gear weekly.

After switching to 50mg/day of Clomid exclusively (with no exogenous test) for 6 months, my balls grew to 2x their normal size and my "natural" testosterone levels almost quadrupled. I love my balls. Not sure I'll need a cycle anymore.

How long did you use clomid? the ball size dident return to baseline? so strange

 

[goonr]

I am on HRT and have found that enclopmiphine has been very effective for keeping my snoop dog nuts.

Are you on testosterone? What are your dosages for both test and enclo? Or are you doing enclo only?

 

[Scruf]

Are you on testosterone? What are your dosages for both test and enclo? Or are you doing enclo only?

200mg test cyp a week, anastrozol twice a week, 25mg enclo 4 times a week

 

[goonr]

200mg test cyp a week, anastrozol twice a week, 25mg enclo 4 times a week

200 mg a week and still big balls? Sounds interesting. Might try it on my next cruise.

 

[Gigantic]

How long did you use clomid? the ball size dident return to baseline? so strange

6 months is when it happened. I used it for a year.

No, they didn’t return to baseline. They got bigger. I love them!

Went from 194 ng/dL to 650-800 ng/dL. I’m getting more blood work done Monday, so we’ll see how that goes.

 

[Burly]

I used 500 iu twice a week and mostly retained my balls while on 900mg of gear weekly.

After switching to 50mg/day of Clomid exclusively (with no exogenous test) for 6 months, my balls grew to 2x their normal size and my "natural" testosterone levels almost quadrupled. I love my balls. Not sure I'll need a cycle anymore.

Everyone is different. 500iu HCG EOD is a normal dose during a cycle.

 

[Jin23]

Everyone is different. 500iu HCG EOD is a normal dose during a cycle.

And mr. Fortune Wheeler strikes again. Who will be the next lucky beneficiary of his dubious advice? Stay tuned and find out!

@Chris U. "Normal" hcg dose is 250 IU eod. People follow that dosing regime as it's the dose that's been proven to bring up ITT levels up to around baseline. The alternative dosing schedule is 500 IU's 2 x week and there are arguments why this is potentially a better option.

This is the study that's seldom cited: Low-Dose Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Maintains Intratesticular Testosterone in Normal Men with Testosterone-Induced Gonadotropin Suppression Anybody who's half read upon "aas literature" knows of this study.

500 IU eod will be too much for most, bringing in hard to control E2 sides and also in some individuals might stimulate excess adrenal steroid production.

However, hcg has some quality issues and you might find yourself with a half bunk product. In those cases you'd want to increase the dosage. But also keep in mind that compounds being run also effect your testes function.

Just don't listen to mr. Fortune Wheeler there, he doesn't have any idea what he's talking about.

 

[Burly]

And mr. Fortune Wheeler strikes again. Who will be the next lucky beneficiary of his dubious advice? Stay tuned and find out!

@Chris U. "Normal" hcg dose is 250 IU eod. People follow that dosing regime as it's the dose that's been proven to bring up ITT levels up to around baseline. The alternative dosing schedule is 500 IU's 2 x week and there are arguments why this is potentially a better option.

This is the study that's seldom cited: Low-Dose Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Maintains Intratesticular Testosterone in Normal Men with Testosterone-Induced Gonadotropin Suppression Anybody who's half read upon "aas literature" knows of this study.

500 IU eod will be too much for most, bringing in hard to control E2 sides and also in some individuals might stimulate excess adrenal steroid production.

However, hcg has some quality issues and you might find yourself with a half bunk product. In those cases you'd want to increase the dosage. But also keep in mind that compounds being run also effect your testes function.

Just don't listen mr. Fortune Wheeler there, he doesn't have any idea what he's talking about.

You must be the greatest idiot around here. I get medical advice of my Endo.
Even in the latest Harlem study shows 250iu EOD is to low for users. More clinics of TRT advice it for fertility TRT & Fertility - Microdosing Testosterone & HCG - The Men's Health Clinic
Also not to forget the dose Pharma Grade and uGL use !!

The Harlem study was done on roid users. Member @PeterBond was also involved

 

[Jin23]

You must be the greatest idiot around here. I get medical advice of my Endo.
Even in the latest Harlem study shows 250iu EOD is to low for users. More clinics of TRT advice it for fertility TRT & Fertility - Microdosing Testosterone & HCG - The Men's Health Clinic
Also not to forget the dose Pharma Grade and uGL use !!

The Harlem study was done on roid users. Member @PeterBond was also involved

The Men's health clinic, wow, at least we've graduated from Dutch drug leaflets.

Congratulations, your daftness and comprehension skill's are still par to none. I'm actually surprised you're willing to argue with that IQ level of yours. Really, more power to you, don't let you disabilities define you!

 

[Burly]

I know off more people 500iu was not even enough to maintain fertile. They needed after blasting a higher dose HCG and even add hMG into.

 

[Burly]

The Men's health clinic, wow, at least we've graduated from Dutch drug leaflets.

Congratulations, your daftness and comprehension skill's are still par to none. I'm actually surprised you're willing to argue with that IQ level of yours. Really, more power to you, don't let you disabilities define you!

Stop harassing people, take your meds and move out of your grandma's basement

 

[lundgren]

Everyone is different. 500iu HCG EOD is a normal dose during a cycle.

If i have well understand all depend what compound used during of after the HCG.

For exemple from my side when i used 200mg Deca / week, the HCG have 0 effect, 1500 ui's from script, started at 500, 750, 900 etc ... I need to stop Deca around 3/4 weeks minimum.

The body fat have a high impact on the dosage if i have well understand, and yes pharma grade are the best way if it's possible.

It's interesting because if the dose are to much elevated that's don't help the recovery and give only side effect like excessive water retention, gyno etc ...

The best way are to start at low dose and see how the user react and gradually adapted the dosage, 500 ui's are a good spot to start i think.

TRT + HCG are awesome for well-being and if we have the money low dose of rHGH all pharma grade, but it's little bit expensive.

HMG are amazing too, surely one of the best compound for boost LH & FSH => testicles and test endo , i feel like teenager with this stuff 75ui's 3 x / week