rehab cycle: test, deca, albuterol, gh

[flenser]

Preparing for shoulder surgery might be a weird time for a “cycle”, but I’ve been screwing around with different doses of different aas for a while and need to get things under control. My goal is fast recovery, minimal atrophy, and minimal fat gain.

Could definitely use some guidance, especially with the GH. I have a grocery list of nagging injuries, and I’m hoping 2iu ed combined with reduced load will be enough to clear most of them up.

6’ 195lbs, age 51.. %bf questionable
Currently on 500mg/500mg test/tren e per week. Have been on a serious cut for the last 10 weeks or so. Might be down to 12%-13% bf with some loose skin to confuse the measurements. This is my first experience with Tren, and I have to say I was blown away by how fast it consumed fat. Too bad it doesn’t also consume skin, but if I can stay under 15% through the surgery and rehab, I will be a happy man.

So here’s the plan.

Test E (MG), 125mg ew Week 1 – 12+ (TRT)
Deca (Astro), 125mg ew Week 1 – 12 (optional)
Albuterol (GWP) 10mg ed Week 1 – 10
Genotropin GH (Astro) 2 iu ed Week 1 – 24+
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Surgery, Week 2 (might be later depending on how obstructive my insurance company becomes)
Rehab, Week 2 – 10
Cardio ~60 min ed, Week 1 – 12 (minus time for surgery)

Cardio will be strictly bike riding - stationary, road or mountain bike depending on what the shoulder allows.
Rehab will be whatever the doc says it is.

I added albuterol because Spring is when I usually get bad cardio-limiting allergies. I want to see if it improves my breathing.
Thinking of adding the deca, because I will be spending so much time on a bike aggravating my arthritic knees. Not sure if I need it.

I have an on-going cutting diet that has served me pretty well, so far. It’s primarily raw veggies during the day and meat plus veggies and some olive oil dressing for the evening meal, with a once a week re-feed of the same plus bacon and eggs for breakfast. It has been worth 2 lbs a week with no strength loss (thanks tren). Couldn't guess on the calories or protein/fat ratios, though it's pretty much a keto diet. That's not intentional, just happens to be what I like to eat.

PCT – none. Plan on staying with TRT.

 

[fastasf]

After all the work flenser has done for this community with the Labmax stuff, someone very experienced should chime in here with some advice for the man. It's the least that can be done to compensate him. Come on fellas!

 

[flenser]

I got my surgery moved up to Wednesday. Wasn't expecting that at all. My last pin of 250 test e/250 tren e was last night. I guess 4000+ TT won't interfere with the surgery, heh. I sure didn't ask the surgeon about it.

Going to skip a week and drop to 125mg test e every Sunday after this, and follow the schedule from there. Have to bug Astro, too. I haven't ordered the Genotropin pins yet.

 

[flenser]

Out of surgery. Completely numb from my shoulder to my fingertips. Man, what weird feeling. Supposed to last 24 hours.

Both tears were "significantly worse" than the MRI showed, and I hane a ruptured biceps tendon - completely unattached. The doc said it won't affect my strength, though. I guess I'll find out.

Going to wait until Friday to start the Albuterol. The anesthesia is supposed to stay in my system for to to 48 hours. Not sure they would mix well.

Decided on 4iu/day on the Genotropin. Need to get an IGF-1baseline before I start, though. Maybe Friday on that as well.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Good luck flenser..

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

Damn I feel for you man..I like the stack but if it were me I would also add in some eq as well it's going to help keep the bf% down maintain more gains and help your joints.

Test 125mg
Deca 300mg
Eq 300mg
HGH 4iu
Albuterol 10mg

That stack will keep strength up and bf% down while aiding in your recovery process.

It seems you have a lot of disposable income so tb-500 might possibly be worth using as well. Not sure on its effectiveness or side effects but bill Roberts seems to recommend it. (I didn't read the whole article so don't quote me on this)


You could even add some Tren maybe just 200mg but then you would most likely need some caber with two 19nor probably at 1mg per week.

Anyway those are just my thoughts. Good luck man.

 

[flenser]

Like the EQ idea, especially since I have it on hand. I'm barely a week off the tren and I already want to eat everything in sight. Ate a whole bag of saltine crackers with tuna last night! Tren might be a bit much, since this is supposed to be the cruise phase.

I tried tb-500 before. Either I'm a non-responder or it was bunk. I figured this time I would go for the real thing..

 

[Voltrader]

Hope you have a great recovery. I will be watching this closely I have been putting going under the knife off for quite some time.

 

[flenser]

The "24 hour nerve block" wore off in about 8 hours. The doc prescribed a bunch of Demerol for all the pain I'm supposed to be in, but it hurts less now than before the surgery. I think I'll skip the pain meds.

I should have had this done a year ago instead of trying to follow all the crazy PT advise I found on the web. Damn, I can't wait to start benching again.

 

[flenser]

Summer schedule looks complicated on the weekends. If I stick to Sunday pinning, I'll need to fly with gear several times. I'll be home every Thursday but one, though. And hey, today happens to be Thursday

I settled on 150mg ew, test e, deca and eq. which is high for a cruise dose, but I'll probably take several weeks off with just test before I blast again anyway. Using MG test e, plus deca and eq that I got from MF for testing since it's already open. Bloods planned for the middle of May.

Astro's Genotropin supplier is toast it seems. I bought all Astro's remaining 36iu pens, and will probably take his 16iu pens as well if I can find more fridge space the missus won't see before someone else buys them. I should have my original order by Tuesday or Wednesday, and will start on the 4iu ed when they show.

Going to do 5 days on and 2 days off, just because I won't have to fly with the things very often that way. I'm more worried about TSA fucking with them and giving me AIDS than arresting me, though.

 

[flenser]

Started the albuterol yesterday morning – 10mg 2X ed, and dropped my calories back to maintenance. Still want to overeat, but I’m resisting it now. I’ll have to plan this better the next time I run tren. The down swing turns me into the cookie monster!

It’s hard to believe, but range of motion on the shoulder is almost 100%. Unweighted lateral raises are a bit painful, but overall movement is less painful than before surgery. At this rate it’s going to be hard to stay out of the gym during PT. I feel like I could handle back squats right now with no issues. Dead lifts might be pushing it, heh.

 

[flenser]

The first two Genotropin pens (cartridges, actually) showed up, so I started with 2iu tonight. Mixing looked complicated, but turned out to be pretty simple. And I learned the 36iu cartridges actually have 41iu.

Sitting around with nothing to do is making me stir crazy. I've been posting just for something to do. My mtn bike club is having a free ride clinic today which I almost attended, but regained sanity only after having trouble getting my bike in the rack with one hand. I'm thinking alcohol abuse is in my immediate future.

 

[flenser]

First doc’s apt this morning since surgery. The doc told me the labrum tears were much worse than the MRI had shown. Suggested I limit the range on certain lifts pretty much forever. I will probably take her advice.

I got the stiches out and had my first day of PT. It wasn’t much of a workout. Lots of assorted rows, rotations and raises all using the equivalent of a rubber band I could have broken with one finger. But the stretching was paradise, indescribable really. That will keep me going back as often as I’m allowed. Range of motion is at least as good as before the surgery, maybe a little better. It’s hard to tell because stretching to a limit was rather painful before surgery, and now it just feels good.

Two more weeks and I should be doing light upper body lifts. Going to try to squat tomorrow, but not sure if I can hold the bar properly yet. If not, there’s always the leg press. I’ve been neglecting abs lately too, so I guess this is a good time to hit them hard.

 

[flenser]

Made it to the gym for the first time in almost 2 weeks. I was hoping to do back squat. I can hook 2 fingers on the bar a little outside the rings with the bar in place, but it felt unstable. I had this image in my head of the bar slipping at just the wrong time and screwing up my other shoulder. So I just worked the leg press for 40 minutes. It seemed like a super light workout, but I probably won't be able to walk tomorrow.

I repeated the PT they gave me at the doc's. It's so light I can probably get away with doing it twice a day. Then I was conveniently out of time and had to skip abs.

Also, I weighed myself this morning and learned I'm up 13 lbs since the day before surgery. I wasn't expecting that, even though I can see the expanded love handles. I decided to add 70mcg T3. I hate t3, but not as much as I hate fat - or clen. I already have a low grade headache from the stuff.

 

[dnoyez]

Just wanted to say congratulations on the ongoing fat loss and good luck with the rehab phase.

 

[flenser]

Thanks, the rehab is turning out to be sort of entertaining. The pain and range of motion are both improving so fast I get measurable progress every day. Never got daily strength gains, even on tren, heh.

edit...
It just occurred to me what that 13 lb gain did to me. If I was at 12% at 195 - which was a bit of a stretch when I said it, then I'm now at:

(195 * .12 + 13 ) / (195 * (1 - .12)) = 21%

In less than 2 weeks...

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

Thanks, the rehab is turning out to be sort of entertaining. The pain and range of motion are both improving so fast I get measurable progress every day. Never got daily strength gains, even on tren, heh.

Good stuff man hope you recover quickly. This is the first time I've had to deal with an injury. It blows not being able to hit the gym like you need to.

 

[flenser]

Good stuff man hope you recover quickly. This is the first time I've had to deal with an injury. It blows not being able to hit the gym like you need to.

Not sure which one of us got the worse deal. You can still work upper body, but it's going to take a while for that wrist to heal. I should be back sooner, but I can't do anything but legs and abs while I'm waiting.

 

[flenser]

At PT this morning on a hand operated stationary bike I noticed both wrists and elbows were hurting. My knees hurt after using the leg press too, and I stayed 300lbs below normal working weight. I guess that's sides from the GH? I have quite a bit of arthritis, but this felt different.

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

At PT this morning on a hand operated stationary bike I noticed both wrists and elbows were hurting. My knees hurt after using the leg press too, and I stayed 300lbs below normal working weight. I guess that's sides from the GH? I have quite a bit of arthritis, but this felt different.

Could be the GH...when the joints proliferate too quickly sometimes the nerves become impinged with movement.

Basically the nerves have nowhere to go and they are being pinched by the now larger moving joint.