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FACT is, it cannot be proven since we aren’t in any type of environment where nothingness exists. Fact would mean this has been proven beyond hypothesis and theory.
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Religion, science, or both... Where do you stand?
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maxx the dogg
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Read the articles and do some Googling on the subject. You obviously haven't read those articles. This is why I don't usually get into these discussions because no one is going to change their mind anyway and people get too defensive about their stances. At least the scientific side offer up some kind of explanations which sound plausible. The other side is based on faith. So you believe that a creator appeared out of nowhere (read "nothing") but when science mentions something out of nothing it's ludicrous? Makes total sense :^ /
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2013 - this article states that it’s a theory, not a fact and a very slim chance at that. So in 7 years it’s now been a proven fact? What Came Before the Big Bang?
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It’s actually more logical to believe there is a creator that has existed for eternity, without beginning and end than to believe all of this happened randomly. But hey, thanks for at least keeping things civil.
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Biggerarms22
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Maxx, I am an aitheist and I started this thread. I am willing to change my mind, I will become the hardest religious person out there if convinced. I just have not gathered enough certainty to form a religious belief yet. It's that simple.
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Biggerarms22
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You're correct. I would add amongst younger people, those with a religious background are already Less than half. The change is happening very fast. I can remember when I was a kid, everyone believed in God. Today I look around and those in their 20's and below, it's almost half and half.
This will result in half of a generation that hasn't indoctrinated their children into the church... Which will result in subsequent generations allowing their children to grow to an age that they can question what they're being taught.
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Both. Science explains what God has created. God transcends time, space, and matter which are things science tries to explain. Science cannot explain something outside of its boundaries.
Unfortunately, this logical concept is something most atheists ignore. They want science to explain everything which it cannot.
It’s best to study all the options and see what makes sense of it all as a whole. Too many on both sides of the debate come from a viewpoint that it’s an either-or type of explanation, but it isn’t.
Unfortunately, this logical concept is something most atheists ignore. They want science to explain everything which it cannot.
It’s best to study all the options and see what makes sense of it all as a whole. Too many on both sides of the debate come from a viewpoint that it’s an either-or type of explanation, but it isn’t.
RGL90
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I’ve seen miracles through out my life , as has the world , it builds my faith , I came into it with the what do I have to lose mindset? Instead of watching the history channel for the “ most intelligent “ people on the planet ( max claims ) I should believe them , bc it happened this many years ago, well I haven’t witnessed miracles in this aspect , just word of mouth my most likely atheist scientist.
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It doesn’t make since so they avail rely refuse to believe in nothing , “ ahhh I have to find a logical explanation to this! I’m a ducking scientist for Christ sake !”
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Well if you believe in the sacred book, it does mention towards the end of times these things would be fulfilled , take that for what it’s worth .....
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That’s in the western world. There are places like China where Christianity is exploding.
I'm not trying to insult you by saying that what you call a sacred book is, to me, akin to Grimm's fairy tales.
Every religion in the history of planet earth has had beliefs on the end of times. Even religions that are now essentially extinct. The "end of times" will come some day, even if it's just from the sun burning out... But it will have absolutely nothing to do with a "God".
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As well as Africa and Latin America. As for the first world countries, the assertion is true.
4Figgy
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Your last statement is complete nonsense. You have absolutely no way to come to that conclusion unless you know what will happen.
edit: This is also the mindset I described in my first comment here. I’m willing to consider all scientific options that could possibly prove my beliefs false. Most atheists refuse to even delve into religious philosophy due to this type of closed mindedness.
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RGL90
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Yea yours is a theory as is mine . Mine says when god has enough then it’s time to go, but that’s another debate . Again I have no proof brother , just faith , form living enticed to the magic side of things back to the faith of light and love . I haven’t been this way forever , but this is what I choose and believe today . One things for sure , we will all find out one day , life is very short ....
RGL90
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( do what thou wilt ) used to be my motto , even aleister Crowley acknowledges a god to his understanding . But hey whatever gets you through life happy and to the fullest , my soul is content and life is better for me when I acknowledge and believe someone out there has me in their best interest . I don’t feel so alone in this big nasty world .. good topic original post , every one keeping it civil , think I’ll fall back now and finish my work out , peace y’all
Well, you have absolutely no way to come to the conclusion that the end of the world WILL include God. The end of the world will absolutely come some day, or at least the life that inhabits it, but it would be a fallacy to say that a deity will play any part in it unless it's existence is provable.
RGL90
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To smart for your own good big guy. There is no logic in believe in a creator , duh it’s built on faith , that’s why no one wants to grasp it , it doesn’t make since , I dare you to question yourself someday
