PONGGO
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Alright ya'll this is for the kids that fuck themselves up and get cold shouldered as to what's right and wrong. Also, there seems to be a large amount of problmes in the AAS community due to the fact that many popular protocols are written and used by athletes using ridiculous/unneccessary amounts of drugs in their cycles. Im sure everyone has at one point or another googled "how to reverse gyno", to which you will see all over the place C-Bino's gyno reversal protocol, in which one is told to use crazy amounts of LETRO the most radical fuckin AI said to suppress 98% of estrogen. Pls kids, men, anyone using not ridiculous amounts of gear, dont go down the letro path. U will crash the fuark outta ur estro levels, ur joints will be wantin to blow out, and more than likely u will have the gnarliest estrogen rebound of ur life and u will feel it/look it. Ive had one tiny rebound from adex and i swore i wasnt lettin that shit ever happen again. Last cycle, me and my buddy ran identical cycles (he used higher doses of everything, hes more the lazy type, would rather let the drugs do the work than eat and train like a beast) on our cycles (16 weekers) we kick started with dbol. By the end of dbol, we had both formed some solid lumps behind only the left nip in both of us. He immediately became concerned (his was far larger than man damn near a small grape in size) i didnt care to much, i know my body and i knew it would eventaully shrink up once i backed off to a cruise dose (we were both using aromasin at 25mgs e3d) but as the cycle of test prop and mast prop continued, the lump kept getting more and more solid, not bigger but solid, same with my buddies. So after awhile he came up to me and said, "yo bro im gonna run this letro protocol i found online to reverse this" i immediately told him it was a terrible fucking idea, but (like every steroid user fuckin ever lol) he wouldnt have any other way. Needless to say when he finished the protocol, his lump had become marginally smaller and less fibrous (not gone however and still about the size of a pea). However, he was soon after welcomed with a crazy estrogen rebound even though he tapered all according to the protocol. His acne spouted, gland flared back to previous size, started acting like a little bitch, and couldnt bust his nut let alone hold a boner for more than a few minutes (his girl trains with us and she told us all first hand lmao). At this point i was about 10 weeks into my cycle and i figured fuck it why not figure out a protocol to reverse gyno on cycle without tanking estro. This is what i did:
Week 1: nolva 40mgs ED (took 80 mgs the first day) 12.5mgs aromasin ED
Week 2: nolva 40mgs ED, aromasin 12.5mg ED
Week 3: nolva 20mgs ED aromasin 10mgs ED
Week 4: nolva 20 mgs ED aromasin 12.5mgs EOD
After that i kept aromasin at 12.5mgs EOD till the end of cycle.
Result: within the first week, the gland became less fibrous but not smaller. The second week the gland had shrunk down to about the size of a metal bead. Week three and four gland was barely feelable (you must accept that unless u go under the knife, gyno will never completely dissappear but even at the level of shred i was at, it could not be noticed) i noticed very little differnece when following this protocol. Yes, by the third week my joints were definitely drier than usual(i usually never experienced joint pain on cycle due to limited ai use) so this was expected, other wise, nothing. Gland never swelled up, no estrogen rebound (gotta love that asin is a suicide agent, for real guys fuck adex its a drug of the past) and then i went right into cruise no problem, still crusing 7 weeks later and the gland is just as was after finishing this protocl. Now, is this gonna work for everyone? Fuck no these are fuckin hormones guys, no person has same levels/ratios/responses. However, the science behind this method is there. Look at the nolvadex as a spartan warrior shielding off all the estro coming for the titties, and aromasin as the little worker, lowering estro shrinking up the gland without coming anywhere close to tanking E as well as zero rebound. For anybody using reasonable dosages when cycling ex: 500mgs test or less a week (u seriously dont need more mates my god the average adolescent male is said to release about 42mg of testosterone per week. U guys dont need more) i would highly reccommend this protocol over the far more extreme methods. Also, believe it or not guys but what u eat also plays a large level in hormone levels. However, i am not going to state what foods affect me in what way becasue we are all different. Eat good, pay attention to your body, and focus on the things that matter. Only use the amount u need to make the progress, and for the love of everything that is good in this world. Stay the fuck away from tren. The greats didnt need it, why the fuck do u? Oh wait ur more aesthetic than they are? No ur not so dont fuckin go there. Use minimal dosages on everything only upping doses when u are BUSTING YOUR FUCKING ASS, DIETING PRECISE, and THEN hit a plateu. Never resort to more drugs to get the desired physique kids u will regret it. I have ran an 8 week blast in which i only used 175mgs test E pinned monday/thursday. 350mgs a week was more than enough to make serious gains. Only difference i noticed from a 600mg a week blast of test e to a 350mg a week was elevated sides. Stay safe, and more importantly, stay aesthetic.
P.S. to all the vets that may get ass hurt over this, i dont know who u are u dont know who i am dont start those dumbass little kid keyboard warrior fights. I am only trying to help the younger generation in a far better less ignorant manner. Kids are going to use if they fuckin want, is it good to start early? No. Is it good to start ever? NO. A drug is a drug. So rather than making them feel like shit like and telling them to kiss ur shoes, fucking help them the best u can or gtfo off these forums and go yell at a wall u angry kunt. For all the vets that have helped many, including myself, we thank you and wish their were more kind hearted brothers like u. Lets restore the golden age of bodybuilding! No more bros dieing from drug use lets push eachother in the right ways!!!
Week 1: nolva 40mgs ED (took 80 mgs the first day) 12.5mgs aromasin ED
Week 2: nolva 40mgs ED, aromasin 12.5mg ED
Week 3: nolva 20mgs ED aromasin 10mgs ED
Week 4: nolva 20 mgs ED aromasin 12.5mgs EOD
After that i kept aromasin at 12.5mgs EOD till the end of cycle.
Result: within the first week, the gland became less fibrous but not smaller. The second week the gland had shrunk down to about the size of a metal bead. Week three and four gland was barely feelable (you must accept that unless u go under the knife, gyno will never completely dissappear but even at the level of shred i was at, it could not be noticed) i noticed very little differnece when following this protocol. Yes, by the third week my joints were definitely drier than usual(i usually never experienced joint pain on cycle due to limited ai use) so this was expected, other wise, nothing. Gland never swelled up, no estrogen rebound (gotta love that asin is a suicide agent, for real guys fuck adex its a drug of the past) and then i went right into cruise no problem, still crusing 7 weeks later and the gland is just as was after finishing this protocl. Now, is this gonna work for everyone? Fuck no these are fuckin hormones guys, no person has same levels/ratios/responses. However, the science behind this method is there. Look at the nolvadex as a spartan warrior shielding off all the estro coming for the titties, and aromasin as the little worker, lowering estro shrinking up the gland without coming anywhere close to tanking E as well as zero rebound. For anybody using reasonable dosages when cycling ex: 500mgs test or less a week (u seriously dont need more mates my god the average adolescent male is said to release about 42mg of testosterone per week. U guys dont need more) i would highly reccommend this protocol over the far more extreme methods. Also, believe it or not guys but what u eat also plays a large level in hormone levels. However, i am not going to state what foods affect me in what way becasue we are all different. Eat good, pay attention to your body, and focus on the things that matter. Only use the amount u need to make the progress, and for the love of everything that is good in this world. Stay the fuck away from tren. The greats didnt need it, why the fuck do u? Oh wait ur more aesthetic than they are? No ur not so dont fuckin go there. Use minimal dosages on everything only upping doses when u are BUSTING YOUR FUCKING ASS, DIETING PRECISE, and THEN hit a plateu. Never resort to more drugs to get the desired physique kids u will regret it. I have ran an 8 week blast in which i only used 175mgs test E pinned monday/thursday. 350mgs a week was more than enough to make serious gains. Only difference i noticed from a 600mg a week blast of test e to a 350mg a week was elevated sides. Stay safe, and more importantly, stay aesthetic.
P.S. to all the vets that may get ass hurt over this, i dont know who u are u dont know who i am dont start those dumbass little kid keyboard warrior fights. I am only trying to help the younger generation in a far better less ignorant manner. Kids are going to use if they fuckin want, is it good to start early? No. Is it good to start ever? NO. A drug is a drug. So rather than making them feel like shit like and telling them to kiss ur shoes, fucking help them the best u can or gtfo off these forums and go yell at a wall u angry kunt. For all the vets that have helped many, including myself, we thank you and wish their were more kind hearted brothers like u. Lets restore the golden age of bodybuilding! No more bros dieing from drug use lets push eachother in the right ways!!!
everybody different lmao but i say lets just eliminate any opportunity for estro rebound. Same sides as my lad, glands flared up, felt like ass, super bloated, elevated blood pressure, etc. I threw in asin to fix it and all went well
