REVERSE GYNO WITHOUT CRASHING ESTROGEN/KEEP THE DRUG USE LIMITED

[Wunderpus]

It's incorrect. Gyno's cause isn't 100% known but is theorized to be bc if high estrogen and/or an imbalance between T:E ratios.

And nolvadex is a much better option for treating gyno as evidenced by NUMEROUS studies and anecdotal experiences.

Raloxifene I have found to be MORE effective with even fibrous gyno (I had a bit, was tough, almost rubbery) and I brought it down by about 95% with 30mg's a day ralox for 60 days. Doc, you're the one who suggested ralox a while ago, I have really enjoyed it ever since. It's easy to come by, and seems to be as effective, if not more, than nolva for prevention/reduction.

 

[Dw725]

Ya i know that nolva is said to help break down tissue, but more than anything it just blocks off the receptor site. Gyno is a result of high e2 which is why we bring in the ai to get it down thus shrinking the gland. Or is my information incorrect?

Yes, nolva occupies the receptor and an ai prevents further conversion by aromatization. But I was more getting at the fact that the nolva protocol u posted wasn't ground breaking and didn't require the whole gift to the world style post. And since u think arimidex is so outdated, let me recomend u do some research on raloxifene, bc some would consider on cycle nolva use outdated by your standards. I personally see it as a choice of preference when it comes to ai use. They all do the same damn thing.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Another thing that i find works is eating the dorsel fin off a live whale at depths of up to 200 feet..

Latina pussy never fails and it's a lot more fun. Guaranteed to make a man out of you and shrink all but the most stubborn gyno.

 

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False

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[PONGGO]

It's incorrect. Gyno's cause isn't 100% known but is theorized to be bc if high estrogen and/or an imbalance between T:E ratios.

And nolvadex is a much better option for treating gyno as evidenced by NUMEROUS studies and anecdotal experiences.

Well what seems to be wrong with my protocol then? Should the aromasin stay at a regular dose plus the nolva? I figured lower e2 levels wouod greatly contribute to the reduction and prevention of the gland returning. And if arimdex doesnt cause estrogen rebound why was it that as soon as i, and my mate cut arimidex/letro we experienced all symptoms of high estrogen?

 

[PONGGO]

Raloxifene I have found to be MORE effective with even fibrous gyno (I had a bit, was tough, almost rubbery) and I brought it down by about 95% with 30mg's a day ralox for 60 days. Doc, you're the one who suggested ralox a while ago, I have really enjoyed it ever since. It's easy to come by, and seems to be as effective, if not more, than nolva for prevention/reduction.

I will totally have to give it a try if needed. (Hopefully i wont need it lol)

 

[Wunderpus]

Yes, nolva occupies the receptor and an ai prevents further conversion by aromatization. But I was more getting at the fact that the nolva protocol u posted wasn't ground breaking and didn't require the whole gift to the world style post. And since u think arimidex is so outdated, let me recomend u do some research on raloxifene, bc some would consider on cycle nolva use outdated by your standards. I personally see it as a choice of preference when it comes to ai use. They all do the same damn thing.

Kind of... But some are harsher and more aggressive than others... Some are more time tested than other, as well. Suicide inhibitors vs. AIs etc., there are differences brother. But, at the end of the day, yes, they more or less have the same effect, just different methods of action.

 

[PONGGO]

Latina pussy never fails and it's a lot more fun. Guaranteed to make a man out of you and shrink all but the most stubborn gyno.

Gotta say there is nothing quite like being called papi lmao

 

[Dw725]

Kind of... But some are harsher and more aggressive than others... Some are more time tested than other, as well. Suicide inhibitors vs. AIs etc., there are differences brother. But, at the end of the day, yes, they more or less have the same effect, just different methods of action.

Correct, I should have elaborated more. You also beat me to the ralox info as well. Really seems like the use of it is catching on like wildfire around here.

 

[Eman]

Guaranteed to make a man out of you and shrink all but the most stubborn gyno.

You're sure? I'm going downtown tonight then... think I've got a bit of a flare going on.

 

[PONGGO]

Yes, nolva occupies the receptor and an ai prevents further conversion by aromatization. But I was more getting at the fact that the nolva protocol u posted wasn't ground breaking and didn't require the whole gift to the world style post. And since u think arimidex is so outdated, let me recomend u do some research on raloxifene, bc some would consider on cycle nolva use outdated by your standards. I personally see it as a choice of preference when it comes to ai use. They all do the same damn thing.

Well i sir am someone speaking from my own experiences. It was very hard finding info online about proper protocols in case of a major emergency like gyno, so all i was doing was making one that i knew would spark a lot of feedback and will hopefully be easier for inexperienced aas users to find online in order to possibly save themselves! Sorry if my lack of knowledge offended u!

 

[PONGGO]

Yes, nolva occupies the receptor and an ai prevents further conversion by aromatization. But I was more getting at the fact that the nolva protocol u posted wasn't ground breaking and didn't require the whole gift to the world style post. And since u think arimidex is so outdated, let me recomend u do some research on raloxifene, bc some would consider on cycle nolva use outdated by your standards. I personally see it as a choice of preference when it comes to ai use. They all do the same damn thing.

Sorry didnt see he commented already on the ais being different i deleted my post lol.

 

[Docd187123]

Well what seems to be wrong with my protocol then? Should the aromasin stay at a regular dose plus the nolva? I figured lower e2 levels wouod greatly contribute to the reduction and prevention of the gland returning. And if arimdex doesnt cause estrogen rebound why was it that as soon as i, and my mate cut arimidex/letro we experienced all symptoms of high estrogen?

If you're only trying to treat gyno then nolvadex or raloxifene will be enough for most cases. Some will require surgery. You don't need aromasin for reversing gyno. Dr. Scally uses a castle analogy that makes sense: if you had a castle to protect from intruders, would you rather kill 50-80% of the intruders (use an AI) or would you rather protect all the gates to the castle (use Nolva or ralox)?

You got the symptoms of high estrogen when you came off adex bc your estrogen levels returned to homeostasis for your hormonal levels. A rebound would be where estrogen levels came back higher than they initially are at homeostasis and this just doesn't physiologically happen.

 

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You're sure? I'm going downtown tonight then... think I've got a bit of a flare going on.

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That's a tough case...not gonna lie. Still worth a shot though. Godspeed, Eman!

 

[Eman]

That's a tough case...not gonna lie. Still worth a shot though. Godspeed, Eman!

I'll pick up 3 Latinas for good measure then... kill the gyno and catch a case of the Brazilian drip.

 

[mands]

If you're only trying to treat gyno then nolvadex or raloxifene will be enough for most cases. Some will require surgery. You don't need aromasin for reversing gyno. Dr. Scally uses a castle analogy that makes sense: if you had a castle to protect from intruders, would you rather kill 50-80% of the intruders (use an AI) or would you rather protect all the gates to the castle (use Nolva or ralox)?

You got the symptoms of high estrogen when you came off adex bc your estrogen levels returned to homeostasis for your hormonal levels. A rebound would be where estrogen levels came back higher than they initially are at homeostasis and this just doesn't physiologically happen.

Just to add to Docd's post is that most all cases will require surgery if you have full blown gyno and you don't want it to return when cycling again.

mands

 

[PONGGO]

If you're only trying to treat gyno then nolvadex or raloxifene will be enough for most cases. Some will require surgery. You don't need aromasin for reversing gyno. Dr. Scally uses a castle analogy that makes sense: if you had a castle to protect from intruders, would you rather kill 50-80% of the intruders (use an AI) or would you rather protect all the gates to the castle (use Nolva or ralox)?

You got the symptoms of high estrogen when you came off adex bc your estrogen levels returned to homeostasis for your hormonal levels. A rebound would be where estrogen levels came back higher than they initially are at homeostasis and this just doesn't physiologically happen.

Hey thanks a ton for the great explanation that helps a lot! I presume then that the sides i experienced were due to my system being shocked that i returned to homeostasis levels?

 

[Docd187123]

Hey thanks a ton for the great explanation that helps a lot! I presume then that the sides i experienced were due to my system being shocked that i returned to homeostasis levels?

You're welcome.

Not necessarily shocked but the homeostasis at that point, elevated testosterone levels, elevated estradiol levels, etc provided an environment that gave you sides.

 

[PONGGO]

You're welcome.

Not necessarily shocked but the homeostasis at that point, elevated testosterone levels, elevated estradiol levels, etc provided an environment that gave you sides.

Ok that defintitely makes sense! Ya hormones are a tricky game indeed especially when it comes to the boobies i tell ya what. You guys all taught me a lot and i hope others see this convo and learn as much! Sorry for the slight arrogance! Its hard to completely rid yourself of it when the juices are flowing lol. Thanks a ton guys! Defintely the most helpful forum responses ive recieved!

 

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I'll pick up 3 Latinas for good measure then

You couldn't handle 3. No one could.