Rotator Surgery Protocol GH/TB500/BPC157

[Smashshit]

I tore my rotator cuff completely torn supraspinatus back in July. I was scheduled for surgery in august some asshole wrecked me on my Harley the week before my surgery and I almost died. Had to be careflighted immediately to a major a trauma unit in another state. I went through surgery for a shattered wrist on my left hand and had plates and screws put in that will stay permanently. Had some major head trauma but thankfully it was all external with no cranial fractures or internal damage. I also separated my AC joint in my right shoulder ( same one as the rotator cuff tear ). This all postponed my shoulder surgery until October. I made it through surgery fine to repair the rotator cuff. I have been taking 2iu hgh in the shoulder daily to help with tissue repair and I’ve been waiting for my bpc/tb to arrive and they are supposed to be here tomorrow. Also been doing fasted cardio after taking the gh daily and leg workouts twice a week plus physical therapy. Therapy has been going very good and I’m far surpassed where they expect you to be at this point in recovery according to my therapist. So here’s my plan I’d like y’all’s thoughts on this. I’m currently also on 200mg trt weekly. I also have anavar on hand I could add in as well.

Hgh but up it to 3-4iu daily or should I stay at 2iu?
Starting on top of the gh with
BPC 500mcg am and pm for 6-8 weeks
Tb500 2.5mg twice a week for 6-8 weeks
Anavar 25mg daily 6 weeks maybe?

Appreciate any feedback

 

[JoeMama]

I wouldn’t add the Anavar unless on some form of test base. Crashing your estrogen from HPTA disruption is not good for tendon health. Testosterone is shown to decrease elasticity in skin and tendons as well so it’s 50/50 on recommending that as well. I’d stick with your HGH,TB and BPC protocol you have. Dose dependent on side effects you have to increase/decrease. Good luck!

Edit: I just saw you’re already on TRT to which I would say Anavar wouldn’t be an awful idea for collagen synthesis. I would definitely up your protein and collagen supplementation significantly to assist with recovery

 

[buck]

I had 2 rotator muscles re-attached after being torn from the bone and a ruptured biceps fixed in 1 surgery 25 years ago. Was natural and healed way faster then schedule. But i have found that schedules are geared towards your average sedentary, unhealthy noncompliant person.
11 years ago had my other shoulder replaced. healed way ahead of schedule. Was on TRT and 2 iu' of HGH.
Seems staying motivated, eating healthy, were the common denominator to good healing.
I always wonder if chemically induced fast healing is as good as natural healing .
I wouldn't do the anavar myself. I can see where the peptides may have some benefit. But wonder how effective they are for more traumatic surgeries/healing.Never had any noticeable results when i used them for more serious injuries.

 

[Smashshit]

I wouldn’t add the Anavar unless on some form of test base. Crashing your estrogen from HPTA disruption is not good for tendon health. Testosterone is shown to decrease elasticity in skin and tendons as well so it’s 50/50 on recommending that as well. I’d stick with your HGH,TB and BPC protocol you have. Dose dependent on side effects you have to increase/decrease. Good luck!

Edit: I just saw you’re already on TRT to which I would say Anavar wouldn’t be an awful idea for collagen synthesis. I would definitely up your protein and collagen supplementation significantly to assist with recovery

I eat at minimum 200g protein a day and I’m 212lbs. Any particular collagen supp you would recommend?

 

[Smashshit]

I had 2 rotator muscles re-attached after being torn from the bone and a ruptured biceps fixed in 1 surgery 25 years ago. Was natural and healed way faster then schedule. But i have found that schedules are geared towards your average sedentary, unhealthy noncompliant person.
11 years ago had my other shoulder replaced. healed way ahead of schedule. Was on TRT and 2 iu' of HGH.
Seems staying motivated, eating healthy, were the common denominator to good healing.
I always wonder if chemically induced fast healing is as good as natural healing .
I wouldn't do the anavar myself. I can see where the peptides may have some benefit. But wonder how effective they are for more traumatic surgeries/healing.Never had any noticeable results when i used them for more serious injuries.

Yeah that’s what I wondering too if just physically being in good shape before hand doesn’t drastically lower your healing time compared to your average slightly or more overweight daily slug.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Looks like a solid plan but drop the var. I guess it wouldn't be terrible for muscle retention.

 

[Smashshit]

Looks like a solid plan but drop the var. I guess it wouldn't be terrible for muscle retention.

Ok I thought the var might be overkill I’ll save it for my next cycle even though I’ve got enough for a few cycles of it. Would you recommend staying at 2iu gh or up it to 3-4?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If it was me, I would do 4, but I don't really get sides lol

 

[jonesy291]

Following this closely as I'm scheduled for rotator cuff surgery in 4 weeks. I'm actually on almost the exact same protocol as you described right now leading up to surgery so that my body is primed and ready to go. I do TRT already and just added 2 iu HGH, BPC-157 and TB-500 at the same dose as you, but also include GHK-Cu for its collagen synthesis properties. I'm also considering adding low dosage of Primo right after surgery to assist with muscle retention since I'll be immobile for a while.

Besides your leg workouts, have you worked out upper body at all? Do you worry about losing muscle while you recover, or do you think your TRT dose will protect some of that?

 

[Smashshit]

Following this closely as I'm scheduled for rotator cuff surgery in 4 weeks. I'm actually on almost the exact same protocol as you described right now leading up to surgery so that my body is primed and ready to go. I do TRT already and just added 2 iu HGH, BPC-157 and TB-500 at the same dose as you, but also include GHK-Cu for its collagen synthesis properties. I'm also considering adding low dosage of Primo right after surgery to assist with muscle retention since I'll be immobile for a while.

Besides your leg workouts, have you worked out upper body at all? Do you worry about losing muscle while you recover, or do you think your TRT dose will protect some of that?

I definitely lost muscle and size but I haven’t been able to lift since July. Just started resistance band training at PT last week and have been moved from 0 up to a 10lb restriction so I’m going to start doing very light dumbbell routines soon. Whatever you do follow there instructions to the T and keep up your test dose. I know without a doubt it’s helped me heal quicker. It will Help some with muscle
Retention it you’re gonna lose some. It’s 8-12 months total recovery they say so I’m hoping to cut that down to 6 months and be able to get back at it and build it back up before summer gets here which I believe I will be able to thanks to muscle
Memory

 

[Smashshit]

If it was me, I would do 4, but I don't really get sides lol

I may bump it to 3 for a while and see then go to 4 if still no sides. I haven’t had any yet so I’ll probably be ok going up to 4 but I’ll do it slowly. Also thinking about adding mk677 at night since I’m doing my gh to n the morning. I want to heal as quickly as possible but I’m doing my best to
Be patient

 

[jJjburton]

Following this closely as I'm scheduled for rotator cuff surgery in 4 weeks. I'm actually on almost the exact same protocol as you described right now leading up to surgery so that my body is primed and ready to go. I do TRT already and just added 2 iu HGH, BPC-157 and TB-500 at the same dose as you, but also include GHK-Cu for its collagen synthesis properties. I'm also considering adding low dosage of Primo right after surgery to assist with muscle retention since I'll be immobile for a while.

Besides your leg workouts, have you worked out upper body at all? Do you worry about losing muscle while you recover, or do you think your TRT dose will protect some of that?

Look up Cross Education in Exercise…. You train uninjured side which keeps strength and muscle in surgical side.

 

[jJjburton]

I definitely lost muscle and size but I haven’t been able to lift since July. Just started resistance band training at PT last week and have been moved from 0 up to a 10lb restriction so I’m going to start doing very light dumbbell routines soon. Whatever you do follow there instructions to the T and keep up your test dose. I know without a doubt it’s helped me heal quicker. It will Help some with muscle
Retention it you’re gonna lose some. It’s 8-12 months total recovery they say so I’m hoping to cut that down to 6 months and be able to get back at it and build it back up before summer gets here which I believe I will be able to thanks to muscle
Memory

I have pectoralis major tendon repair surgery jan 3. I have borderline regained all my side back besides chest and delts. As i am still working up to full capacity safely.

I was 245 at time injury and dropped to 210, now i am back to 250.

 

[buck]

Yeah that’s what I wondering too if just physically being in good shape before hand doesn’t drastically lower your healing time compared to your average slightly or more overweight daily slug.

Dr.s have patients that smoke, drink to much, are over weight, have other health issues other than just being overweight. And there plan takes that all in. They don't have a different plan for each patient. And when many/most of their patients then heal faster than predicted it is good news. Which is better than telling people you are healing much slower than usual. Dr's job is to make people feel better. And that doesn't always mean just physically better.

 

[buck]

Look up Cross Education in Exercise…. You train uninjured side which keeps strength and muscle in surgical side.

I have trained every uninjured body part within days after every surgery i have had from shoulder rebuild, replacement and spine surgery. And lost little muscle in the process. Those surgeries include natural and enhanced. Working one side causes nerves to still get stimulation on the other side from my reading and from the orthos i have talked with.

 

[Smashshit]

Dr.s have patients that smoke, drink to much, are over weight, have other health issues other than just being overweight. And there plan takes that all in. They don't have a different plan for each patient. And when many/most of their patients then heal faster than predicted it is good news. Which is better than telling people you are healing much slower than usual. Dr's job is to make people feel better. And that doesn't always mean just physically better.

I fully understand that but most people didn’t almost die 8 weeks before they had the surgery and their body already been through major trauma and other surgeries either. I get your point, it’s just not always that cut and dry either.

 

[buck]

I fully understand that but most people didn’t almost die 8 weeks before they had the surgery and their body already been through major trauma and other surgeries either. I get your point, it’s just not always that cut and dry either.

No i didn't and i never made it a comparison. I just gave my experience that i have used multiple times for people to take what they may want or not. Sporry things happened to you. I have been in cars that rolled at over 100mph after havening the dump driver of the car i was ridding in go head on into a concrete wall at 40mph 3 months earlier. but those accidents were what lead to my surgeries years later. My big lesson i learned is to not ride with anyone that may be an idiot.

 

[Smashshit]

No i didn't and i never made it a comparison. I just gave my experience that i have used multiple times for people to take what they may want or not. Sporry things happened to you. I have been in cars that rolled at over 100mph after havening the dump driver of the car i was ridding in go head on into a concrete wall at 40mph 3 months earlier. but those accidents were what lead to my surgeries years later. My big lesson i learned is to not ride with anyone that may be an idiot.

Yeah I appreciate your experience with it. Eh shit happens I’m just happy to be alive because honestly I shouldn’t be but here I am and if you saw me in person you’d never even know I was in an accident now. It’s pretty amazing honestly and I’m just trying to recover as quickly but safely as possible. I hear you in not riding with idiots lol. Unfortunately for me I was riding my Harley and a motherfucker flat out wrecked me intentionally ( witness saw the whole thing ) but he was too far a way to get a plate number or anything so they got away with no repercussions. But I’m a firm believer in what goes around comes around and one day they’ll get theirs.

 

[audiopeptide]

I did something similar recently. Tore my bicep tendon at the elbow in mid/late August, had the repair surgery the day after Labor Day.

Did a TRT test dose + Var, TB500 and BPC157. I don’t have anything to compare it to (maybe tear the other side and rawdog the recovery lol) but I’ve healed beautifully with my doctor commenting on how much faster/better it’s healed compared to other patients. Only ran the var for 30 days.

Then again, the whole thing could be placebo. I’m someone who is in good shape lifting and doing cardio daily, with outdoor/athletic hobbies. Most of his patients who tear their bicep moving a couch or something are overweight sedentary people.

 

[laclark89]

I eat at minimum 200g protein a day and I’m 212lbs. Any particular collagen supp you would recommend?

Everyone and their surgeries right now, geez I guess its that time of year. I'm about to get a herniated disc fixed up hopefully by mid January.

I'm just on 200 test 3iu gh and eating good. I have some anavar on hand also probably wont use untill fully recovered or very close to it, dont think I wana mess up my lipids any worse while healing. I've always wondered about peptides.

I asked a surgeon about peptides, he says that it's not really fully proven in humans. But I can give it a shot. That's basically all the confirmation I need to try.


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