RSOC's DRY SUST!!!

[gravey]

Way ta go Phil!! Great product at great $$! Does this belong in classifieds?

 

[hugewood]

I agree awesome product. It saves me money on anti-e and when you have little cash flow any corner cutting is great. His eq and nan blend are awesome too.

John

 

[ozzyoil]

WTF is Dry Sust ?

 

[tonyton]

WTF is Dry Sust ?

sust that doesnt cause bloat

 

[einstein1905]

sust that doesnt cause bloat

Better than sust though....just two esters. He should do the same with just plain test E or test Cyp...hint hint, Phil
Test E plus anastrazole would be ideal.

 

[Bob Smith]

WTF is Dry Sust ?

A 2 ester test blend with arimidex in it.

 

[jagers]

so what were your results and how dry were you during the cycle
later
jagers

 

[einstein1905]

so what were your results and how dry were you during the cycle
later
jagers

It's testosterone, buddy. Test is test. This stuff just happens to have Adex in it too. One test isn't better than another test.

 

[adjutant]

It's testosterone, buddy. Test is test. This stuff just happens to have Adex in it too. One test isn't better than another test.

Man, no offense, but I hate when people say that. Do you mean to tell me that you react the same to all different esters? YOu'd be the only person in history.
For me,
Test susp: fast, big gains, no sides
Test prop: good gains, no sides
Test E: itchy nips, bloat, MILD acne (2-3 on the shoulders post cycle)
Test Cyp: small red bumps on arms. bloat
Sustanon: Blow the fuck up, moderate acne post cycle


Saying test is test is incredibly misleading

 

[Bob Smith]

Technically, test is test. You are referring to differences between esters.

 

[thefallguy]

Technically, test is test. You are referring to differences between esters.

RSOC's current version in 50mg Prop, 200mg Cyp & 0.67mg of A-dex per cc. And it rocks! He's sold out until the next list which is supposed to be a new version....not sure of the esters though.

 

[einstein1905]

Man, no offense, but I hate when people say that. Do you mean to tell me that you react the same to all different esters? YOu'd be the only person in history.
For me,
Test susp: fast, big gains, no sides
Test prop: good gains, no sides
Test E: itchy nips, bloat, MILD acne (2-3 on the shoulders post cycle)
Test Cyp: small red bumps on arms. bloat
Sustanon: Blow the fuck up, moderate acne post cycle


Saying test is test is incredibly misleading

You don't react to the ester at all. The ester simply controls the rate of the test's bioavailability. The reason you gain faster on prop, is because you have test sooner....it's simple.
All the other "variations" people claim are simply not dependent on the ester. Do you realize how many cycles you'd have to do with each estered test to draw any reasonable conclusion as to whether or not an effect is dependent upon the particular test ester?
Test is test...that's it.

 

[thefallguy]

You don't react to the ester at all.
Test is test...that's it.

Thats my opinion.

 

[FearMy6Pak]

TEST is TEST and the RSOC DRY TEST does rock!!

This stuff is painless and helping me pack on the LEAN POUNDS! I am up 17 pounds in 6 weeks and still showing a VERY (and i do mean very) mild 6pack.

(Yes I do realize there is no more reason to fear a 6pack that hardly exists.....) haha

 

[dumbbellpress]

Anyone that claims "well I get better gains from Cypionate than Enanthate" is very very wrong. Not even open to debate you are WWRROONNGG.

As long as you are comparing apples to apples....

The molecular weights of the most common Testosterones are:
Test suspension (unesterfied)=288
Test propionate=344 so Prop is 83.72% pure test
Test enanthate=400 so Enan is 72.00% pure test
Test cypionate=412 so Cypionate is 69.90% pure test.

So: (.8372)(Propmg) = (.72)(Enanmg)

Take 200mg/cc Prop
200mg/cc Prop = 232.6mg/cc Enan
100mg/cc Prop = 116.3mg/cc Enan

So let's compare running a 12 week cycle of Enanthate to a 12 week cycle of Cypionate.

(.7200)(Enan mg) = (.6990)(Cypionate mg)

let's say you want to run Enanthate at 1000mg/week.
(.7200)(1000mg Enan) = (.6990)(Xmg Cypionate)

1000mg of Enanthate contains the same amount of pure test as 1030.0 mg of Cypionate.

Therefore, and DON'T ARGUE WITH ME BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IT IS!!!....
If you run 1000 mg of Enanthate per week this is EXACTLY EQUAL to running 1030.0 mg of Cypionate per week (PROVIDED THEY ARE BOTH ACCURATELY DOSED).

As my good brother Einstein has already told you in this thread, TEST IS TEST!! Say that one more time......TEST IS TEST!!!

There is not a snowball's chance in hell that there will be a statistically significant difference in gains between running 1000mg/week of Enanthate and
1030.0 mg/ week of Cypionate - (PROVIDED THEY ARE BOTH ACCURATELY DOSED!! If they are underdosed or overdosed then all bets are off and of course there very easily good be differences in gains realized). Further, there is not a snowball's chance in hell there will be a statistically significant difference in gains between running 1000mg of Enathate per week and 1000mg of Cypionate per week. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS SO DON"T ARGUE WITH ME. YOU ARE WRONG. EINSTEIN AND I ARE RIGHT, PERIOD.

The only explanation that is even possible that would explain why all these guys are saying "Cypionate is better than enanthate. It gives me more of a kick and I get bigger and stronger with it" is that the Cypionate they used was accurately dosed whereas the Enanthate they used was underdosed. FINISHED. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. NOT OPEN TO DEBATE OR INTERPRETATION. That is the ONLY explanation possible as to why all these guys are saying they like Cypionate better than Enanthate.

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

 

[dumbbellpress]

This topic has been around ever since I joined Meso in April of 2001.

Once again...................Test is Test....................Test is Test....................Test is Test....................Test is Test..................Test is Test..............Test is Test................Test is Test................Test is Test...

Provided you are injecting at each ester's optimal frequency (ie Prop ED injections) (Sustanon atleast EOD injections and preferably ED injections) (Cyp and Enan twice weekly injections) and you are injecting equivalent amounts of PURE TEST ie 1000mg of Enanthate is equal to 1030.0 mg of Cypionate........then AGAIN TEST IS TEST IS TEST IS TEST IS TEST..........

There is no difference between ANY of the esters!!!!!!!!! That is the way it is, PERIOD. No more bullshit about one ester being any better than any other ester. They are the same. PERIOD! STOP THE BULLSHIT NOW!!

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

 

[nick e. guns]

LMAO at DP. That was the funniest (albeit most convincing) post on the test is test debate I've seen here.

 

[anapolan50]

i have much respect for redstar.

but why go UG given that pharmaceutical sustanon is so cheap???

 

[crewboss]

2 ester sus. prop & cyp or prop & enth. sounds just like IP sus.

 

[scrappy]

I like phil's tests because they're dosed good, have arim in them and because if you get a bunch on them they are gram for gram the cheapest test going.