Safest receiving address for shipping?

[FRT1]

How do you safely get packages delivered?

Are there any safeguards that can be put in place?

 

[RunTrenFcukTens]

Domestic is usually safe. At least in Canada not sure about our neighbours to the south. I assume as long as you’re not ordering across an international border you should be all right. I know USPS sometimes catches on to illicit drugs and will do controlled deliveries, not sure if that’s the case with steroids down there though. If you’re ordering international depending on the amount, you will probably just get a love letter from customs seizing your shit. That address is burnt then. I would not order again to it, but that’s just me. In Canada steroids are schedule IV so you can’t even get charged with possession when you have truly personal amounts on you. If you have a shit ton you’ll probably get possession, possession for the purpose of trafficking, or trafficking. I don’t know the American judicial system sorry.

 

[Canine]

Don't use a fake name, post office knows who's name gets sent where, order as if you would any other package.

Don't order to an abandoned property or house. Mailman also knows that its an empty house too.

Order from a reputable source.

If asked to sign for a package when not expecting having to, don't.

Those are the basics,

You can start getting really paranoid, and let the package sit untouched for a few days, in case you somehow managed to rack up enough attention for the police to want to raid your house for drugs. Then you can claim you never ordered the package, hence you didn't open, but I'm not a lawyer, and who knows if this shit actually works.

The larger the amount you order, if caught, will likely be worse, but small personal amounts I doubt are gonna get you a death penalty.

Again if the law wants to take you out, they will do it regardless, but follow those basics, and you should be better off.

You're not ordering fentanyl, meth, or weapons grade uranium, but don't be an idiot nevertheless.

 

[FRT1]

Domestic is usually safe. At least in Canada not sure about our neighbours to the south. I assume as long as you’re not ordering across an international border you should be all right. I know USPS sometimes catches on to illicit drugs and will do controlled deliveries, not sure if that’s the case with steroids down there though.

Yes. I am south of you, and I have heard the laws can get stretched like we usually do.

Do you have any info on how USPS does these controlled drops?

And thank you for taking the time to answer my first question!

 

[FRT1]

Don't use a fake name, post office knows who's name gets sent where, order as if you would any other package.

Don't order to an abandoned property or house. Mailman also knows that its an empty house too.

Order from a reputable source.

If asked to sign for a package when not expecting having to, don't.

Those are the basics,

You can start getting really paranoid, and let the package sit untouched for a few days, in case you somehow managed to rack up enough attention for the police to want to raid your house for drugs. Then you can claim you never ordered the package, hence you didn't open, but I'm not a lawyer, and who knows if this shit actually works.

The larger the amount you order, if caught, will likely be worse, but small personal amounts I doubt are gonna get you a death penalty.

Again if the law wants to take you out, they will do it regardless, but follow those basics, and you should be better off.

You're not ordering fentanyl, meth, or weapons grade uranium, but don't be an idiot nevertheless.

I have a source in the states but sent some products for testing and dosage was off so I am looking but that seems to be a another big deal. Man why can't people just be straight forward like you said I am not getting meth lol. So you recommend using my actual address? Any safety issue having a source have that info? Sorry I am new as I am sure that was very clear. I do want to order Raws from out of the country any advice on that?

Thank you for the detailed answer to my first question. I appreciate the advice.

 

[RunTrenFcukTens]

Yes. I am south of you, and I have heard the laws can get stretched like we usually do.

Do you have any info on how USPS does these controlled drops?

And thank you for taking the time to answer my first question!

I’ve only read about that happening with people who are shipping fentanyl and shit across the USA. Someone will OD they will find the packaging and then trace it back to the supplier and raid him which can in turn lead to client shipping addresses being found out and they may come knocking on buyers doors or even take over the operation and ship packages out to bust buyers. They will come dressed in USPS uniform, but they will ring the doorbell and try and get you to sign for the package and take the package inside. Once you do that they will arrest you. Sometimes they will wait in order to make sure you’ve actually opened the package. The best thing to do when you aren’t expecting something with a signature or it’s not your regular mailman is simply say no one by that name lives here.

I’m not trying to scare you as I think it should be alright down there with just domestic shipping. Maybe try a PO Box if you don’t want to order to your house.

Here’s some more info on controlled deliveries:

Organized Crime Module 8 Key Issues: Special Investigative Techniques - Controlled Deliveries

Doha Declaration - Education for Justice (UNODC)

www.unodc.org

 

[SenorSuperdrol]

I think most guys just ship it to their house and don’t lose sleep over it. US domestic is pretty safe, I’m much more worried about bunk gear the LE.

 

[Tenderloin]

Don't use a fake name, post office knows who's name gets sent where, order as if you would any other package.

Don't order to an abandoned property or house. Mailman also knows that its an empty house too.

Order from a reputable source.

If asked to sign for a package when not expecting having to, don't.

Those are the basics,

You can start getting really paranoid, and let the package sit untouched for a few days, in case you somehow managed to rack up enough attention for the police to want to raid your house for drugs. Then you can claim you never ordered the package, hence you didn't open, but I'm not a lawyer, and who knows if this shit actually works.

The larger the amount you order, if caught, will likely be worse, but small personal amounts I doubt are gonna get you a death penalty.

Again if the law wants to take you out, they will do it regardless, but follow those basics, and you should be better off.

You're not ordering fentanyl, meth, or weapons grade uranium, but don't be an idiot nevertheless.

Well said. If you’re paranoid: Take every precaution you can with regards to keeping your house completely clean of incriminating substances and paraphernalia, using secure emails, and having a clean computer(s) and cell phone leading up to the delivery and taking possession of the package.

Like canine said, if they have a person targeted, they will get them. 99.4% of the time it’s just not worth it to go through the sheer amount of mail or the packaging and stealth is so egregious that there is little doubt as to what the package contains. It’s an occupational hazard. Getting burned is always a possibility when working in a kitchen, but you can minimize the probability with common sense and discipline.

 

[Canine]

Any safety issue having a source have that info?

Well to put it simply, yeah. If your source gets raided, then your info is potentially in LE's hands, or your source could even blackmail you (has happened), or seek retribution if you speak poorly of them, hence why you want to order from someone who has a good reputation and is theoretically deleting customer info after shipment, and why you shouldn't provide any info to your source that would allow them to link your handle on the forum to your emails and order history. However with all of this, risk is involved in basically every aspect, you are just trying to minimize it, and it will never be zero.

However once reputable sources can always go off the deep end, and end up becoming malicious.

Sorry I am new as I am sure that was very clear. I do want to order Raws from out of the country any advice on that?

If it gets seized, and you get a letter, ignore it. If you're not ordering kilos, most likely, no one will come knocking. However once you have a seizure, you are most likely thrown on a list, and will have your future packages scrutinized to a greater extent.

Some international sources offer for an extra fee or just from the beginning do a domestic reship, meaning they send the package to a middleman that resides within your country, and then reship it domestically to you, avoiding that first problem I mentioned.

However you really need to do your homework here, and really dig deep into whoever you are thinking of ordering from. One quite popular (which they shouldn't be) international source on who is on this forum straight up admitted to not deleting customer info and storing it in a database indefinitely, not only making themselves a target for LE, but hackers as well, this is very bad, and issues like this should be avoided at all costs.

Again, read some, and read some more, really make sure you have a decent idea of the risks of who you are ordering from, you will never be certain, but you will be better informed to make a smarter decision.

 

[FRT1]

Well said. If you’re paranoid: Take every precaution you can with regards to keeping your house completely clean of incriminating substances and paraphernalia, using secure emails, and having a clean computer(s) and cell phone leading up to the delivery and taking possession of the package.

Like canine said, if they have a person targeted, they will get them. 99.4% of the time it’s just not worth it to go through the sheer amount of mail or the packaging and stealth is so egregious that there is little doubt as to what the package contains. It’s an occupational hazard. Getting burned is always a possibility when working in a kitchen, but you can minimize the probability with common sense and discipline.

I was able to get into TRT thank you sarms lol. So, I do have a script and labels transfer a few times well before becoming obvious. Great stress reliever when I travel.

Thank you I defiantly shouldn't have more on hand than what my script is for, really stupid oversight on my end. I appreciate your input!

 

[FRT1]

Well to put it simply, yeah. If your source gets raided, then your info is potentially in LE's hands, or your source could even blackmail you (has happened), or seek retribution if you speak poorly of them, hence why you want to order from someone who has a good reputation and is theoretically deleting customer info after shipment, and why you shouldn't provide any info to your source that would allow them to link your handle on the forum to your emails and order history. However with all of this, risk is involved in basically every aspect, you are just trying to minimize it, and it will never be zero.

However once reputable sources can always go off the deep end, and end up becoming malicious.


If it gets seized, and you get a letter, ignore it. If you're not ordering kilos, most likely, no one will come knocking. However once you have a seizure, you are most likely thrown on a list, and will have your future packages scrutinized to a greater extent.

Some international sources offer for an extra fee or just from the beginning do a domestic reship, meaning they send the package to a middleman that resides within your country, and then reship it domestically to you, avoiding that first problem I mentioned.

However you really need to do your homework here, and really dig deep into whoever you are thinking of ordering from. One quite popular (which they shouldn't be) international source on who is on this forum straight up admitted to not deleting customer info and storing it in a database indefinitely, not only making themselves a target for LE, but hackers as well, this is very bad, and issues like this should be avoided at all costs.

Again, read some, and read some more, really make sure you have a decent idea of the risks of who you are ordering from, you will never be certain, but you will be better informed to make a smarter decision.

Fucking awesome Canine! This is why I joined this forum. I really appreciate the info and advice. Any source vetting tips you can give me? Forgive my ignorance please but does it mean anything when a "source" Is MESO sponsored? All I can see so far is sources getting destroyed upon arrival LMFAO.

 

[Canine]

All I can see so far is sources getting destroyed upon arrival LMFAO.

Well you're looking in the right spot, read those threads and read some more, look at the intros, and see how people react, you'll quickly get an idea how meso operates, especially what people look for. That will be the best way to learn and to find someone reliable. Don't just skim a few pages of a source, read deep.

Also having the same amount on hand you have a script for isn't gonna save you if you get caught. Save your script vials for when you travel, buy some personal amounts, have enough to last you a year or so / a few cycles, but no need to go the extreme of only buying 1 or 2 vials at a time.