That part about being sent another link, sounds like some type of spoofing attack, if more cases pop up, that would be one thing, otherwise it sounds like you were targeted somehow, possibly by malware, also there’s tons of malware that’s undetectable by malware scanners, there’s relatively simple ways to go about making something FUD(fully undetectable). Once again I have to say my best guess is a spoofing attack which maybe we’ll have more reports of come out soon, or malware on your end. I seen the backend of your account info, and the address is different than that which you provided, and I don’t see a reason for panda or the website guy to target your order specifically, and just your order, we will see if more reports come out, otherwise, I would be weary of something on your end, and when more samples of that malware are sent in and become detectable to your scanner, it would be found then.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Scammed by PurplePandaLabs for $900 - GG gaslighting
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No, you are not reading what I am writing.
I placed the order on the official PPL website - nothing was done via email.
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When going through checkout on the PPL website it will automatically forward you to the order page where it will display the BTC address and tell you there is a 2 hour window to make the payment.
Look at the first screenshot in the first post in this thread, that is the URL address that PPL's website forwarded me to along with the BTC address. It is not a fake website, it is PPLs domain.
The URL in the screenshot is
https://www.purplepandalabs.com/shop/payment?code=041026682648504so I went ahead and sent the money to the BTC address that was displayed on that page (in the first screenshot).
Minutes after sending the BTC, I received an email from the dodgy protonmail saying the payment was received.
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So to summarise, I did the entire order on the PPL website.
Instead of forwarding me to /shop/payment?code=210729020421630, I was forwarded to /shop/payment?code=041026682648504.
All of this is on PPLs domain, there is no fake website.
Yes, the BTC address tied to order 210729020421630 will be empty because I was given a different BTC address from the order URL page 041026682648504.
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So if PPL is unable to do segwit BTC addresses with their billing system that means it is not a bug or a simple software glitch of giving the incorrect order number.
Instead it means that someone purposefully forwarded me to that order number and then (for some weird reason) sent a fake confirmation email afterwards.
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So the question still remains, why has PPL or ollie not answered my questions from yesterday or given any proof that I have asked? Have they even looked into 041026682648504 order in the logs/database?
OllieJacobs
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I just want to make a final post here, i have shown irrefutable evidence to well respected members here that everything is clear from our side, this cant be changed and every single one of them agreed that this is clear from our side, if someone like @biggerben69 (which is probably one of the members i respect the most) wants to check it too, let be it, this is how this ends, as i told the other day we didnt mind as a source to show the evidence to Millard or respected members here, the OP can write big ass biblical messages, but the evidence was already shown and it’s impossible to supp
As @dennia has pointed out several times (i dont judge you since i personally attacked Panda when shit went down) our source has had some big screw ups in the past, and probably we will have some in the future, but Meso is about harm reduction and defending sources when it’s necessary and defending members where it’s necessary, this is a situation where the source was right, when we do a mistake i want us to be judged as it should, but when we are right this should be acknowledged.
I don’t believe the OP had any malware, or that the OP wanted money, he just wanted to cause some damage for whatever reason, there will always be people like this, a guy a few months ago started sending me Wickr messages with a dead dog pic after refusing to make a bigger discount to him, why? Because there are people like this in the world, if he had any kind if malware it’s a pity but it’s his fault, but i still don’t believe it, i just think it was a well built story with the objective of causing damage.
I think I handled this good as a rep, Panda too, i think that this is also a prove that since the past attacks we are taking security more seriously, short term benefit wouldn’t.
As @dennia has pointed out several times (i dont judge you since i personally attacked Panda when shit went down) our source has had some big screw ups in the past, and probably we will have some in the future, but Meso is about harm reduction and defending sources when it’s necessary and defending members where it’s necessary, this is a situation where the source was right, when we do a mistake i want us to be judged as it should, but when we are right this should be acknowledged.
I don’t believe the OP had any malware, or that the OP wanted money, he just wanted to cause some damage for whatever reason, there will always be people like this, a guy a few months ago started sending me Wickr messages with a dead dog pic after refusing to make a bigger discount to him, why? Because there are people like this in the world, if he had any kind if malware it’s a pity but it’s his fault, but i still don’t believe it, i just think it was a well built story with the objective of causing damage.
I think I handled this good as a rep, Panda too, i think that this is also a prove that since the past attacks we are taking security more seriously, short term benefit wouldn’t.
BK2THEFUTURE
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Also, is no one else concerned that this guys personal information has been widely shared now?
OllieJacobs
Subscriber
Because you are a scammer trying to do time, we already proved how the addresses looked from our backend and even from inside your account, @Cashton @FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR and @MindlessWork looked at this, they have seen the real QR code and the real BTC addy that was giving to him as a client and the address and QR code we have on our backend.
Sorry your story won’t work anymore buddy
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No. We are use for this to happen when you deal with Panda
OllieJacobs
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1) The only way of proving that we were not hacked or scamming him was showing the real info that he got, same as our backend info, it has not been widely shared, it’s against Meso rules as he knows and probably he was trying to get some of the info on the open to get us a ban or playing innocent.
2)The information was just shared with some reputable members to check the veracity of the information instead of putting it out in the open, as you might comprehend it was the only way we could probe it, as someone said yesterday neither we or the OP scammer have proved anything, the only way of proving it was this way.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
Member
Widely… 3 people.. and none of those 3 has any willing to fuck with useless stuff…
You literally did not provide any proof or evidence - you did not answer the questions I asked yesterday.
You are simply spoon-feeding videos to members on this forum that do not address my questions and asking them to vouch for you.
@FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR does not even understand what is going on yet has somehow vouched for your "proof".
As I have said already, the legit BTC address provided for the order is going to be empty because I was forwarded to a different one on PPL's website.
Maybe you or PPL know what has actually happened and have dug yourself a hole that you can't lie yourself out of.
You have been caught once lying when you claimed I had sent emails to Melody a day after ordering but won't admit to that one. You sent the actual proof yourself.
Yeah I am concerned. There was absolutely no reason to share my personal information as that does not prove or disprove anything - but here we are.
Again, sharing my personal information does nothing to help either of us except as a way to punish me for coming forward with this.
If you think 1.5 year old accounts on this forum are reputable then you are a very trusting individual.
3 people that we know of. One of them openly offering to share it to others on the forum - I wonder how many people have my information now.
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Once more i'd like PPL or ollie to answer the questions that I asked yesterday and to provide (non-doxxing) evidence via screenshots.
If you want to do some digging see that Dragon has a problem few months ago that when a customer made a order they received a email with what product they ordered and a btc address and that address was not from Dragon. They paid and nothing was send to them.
Panda and Dragon are cousins so maybe that's leading to something
OllieJacobs
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Dennia the information i have given about this guy to the members is totally framing him, i acknowledged we have had problems in the past, hence why you hate us, but honestly, giving ideas to a scammer is not a good idea.
How long after you placed your order did you send the BTC?
I don't hate you I don't give a fuck about you or any sources. If I am a customer I expect something from a source if they don't deliver they can go to hell
Market don't lack raw sources they lack some simple things that a sources must respect
You think an 8 figure operation gives a fuck about 900 dollars? Literally it's set up to run itself. To selectively scam 900 dollars here and there is peanuts. Especially if it has to be manually done to override the automatic wallets and transactions. Why would someone risk their operation for that.
OllieJacobs
Subscriber
Oooh poor baby scammer, he got butt hurt and now you are going to start acting like a victim.
No worries, your less than a 2 weeks account has more than than a member that has been here since 2010, i loved how you cherry picked the account that was the newest one.
Yeah, @MindlessWork is a monster just for wanting to show that you were full of shit and not knowing if showing that could go against the rules, you are starting to show your true colors.
The only way of proving it is with a video, raw and non edited, even loading the website as we did and sent to some members via DM, proof is as irrefutable as 1+1=2 so be it, I already know that you are one of those nutjobs that will keep going and going because you have something personal against us.
Sure. But how do you know every one of them will not do anything with that info? Seriously?
Because if both 3 of you and Panda know each other personally then one could say you can be biased/ conspired together. (Not saying at all this happened!)
On the other hand if you don't know each other its certainly no good to have this level of trust from Panda's or your side in some anonym person on an internet forum.
I am open to it being Malware on my end but why would they go to such extremes as to alter my URL address bar, create an email address, send me an email etc? That doesn't really make sense imo.
If you can send me that same evidence via email that would be great.
Less than 20 minutes I believe.
I agree which is why I want them to look into what happened but instead they haven't provided any evidence and just labelled me a scammer from the get-go.
Those questions are still unanswered.
OllieJacobs
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Im going to explain this with an example, if the police has evidence that a guy is a thief, and the evidence totally proves it, the evidence can be shown on the newspapers since it has been proved.
This totally proves this guy was a scammer, it was the only way of proving it and he knew about it, we could have posted about it on the open forum but I preferred to send it to some guys instead, why? Because ven tho he’s a scammer i need to follow the rules.
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