Scared of gyno on TRT - so many questions

[Avarice911]

and so do I. But I don't know if an already existing gyno grows faster, than a complete new one.


no, the goal is to aim for the upper third of the reference range. From there we adjust the dose based on symptoms (or better: symptom relief).



My nipples don't feel sore, I feel a lump yes, but theoretically, I could pinch very hard without pain at all.
This post is mainly, because I don't know what to expect if things go wrong. Does everybody feel when he gets gyno? Or are people out there, wo never noticed anything until it was clearly visible? So I'm more scared of, that the gyno sneaks up on me.

You’ll feel your chest itching and an aching pain when the gyno flares up. You’ll def know when it’s trying to grow

 

[Inspired]

Good morning,

I already developed a gyno in puberty - but only on the left side I think, because there is and always was a lump. The other side doesn't feel different from other areas of the chest - but the nipple is still puffy. I'm diagnosed with primary hypogonadism, my Test levels pre TRT were sitting at around 250, my E2 was already at 37pg/mL (reference range is 15-43). I was at 181lbs (5'10") now I'm at 172lbs, so now I'm visible leaner than pre TRT.
Since oktober first I inject e2d for a total of 135mg/week. However I'm scared my already existing gyno starts to grow again.
So I got a few questions:

1. Does it make any sense to draw blood next week and see where my E2 and test levels are? According to steroidplotter I should've reached steady levels at the 30day mark. My idea now was to draw blood next week, if my test and E2 is already high, I would like to reduce the dose to 120 or 100mg.

2. Is there a rough estimate in days or weeks of how quickly a gyno develops? Does it matters whether one is in a caloric deficit or surplus?

3. Is the growth of a gyno always noticeable for everyone? So does everyone get itchy/hurting nips? If not - are there any other indicators?

4. Until I got labs back, I don't want to use an AI, because I want to see where my E2 goes without intervention. Is it safe (only if I get definite symptoms) to introduce 10 or 20mg Tamox per day? Here is a paper, showing tamox can increase E2 values in elderly women with breast cancer after years of treatment: Changes in serum estrogen levels in women during tamoxifen therapy - PubMed Assuming I draw blood next week, does tamox already increases estrogen in a matter of days?

I know most answers are highly individual, but I hope someone can calm me down a little bit. Thank you!

1. It's good to know your E2 but it doesn't matter so much, because some people are extemely gyno sensitive no matter their E2 number.
2. Gyno can slowly develop or come on quickly. For example, old men slowly develop gyno and it will slowly develop for you too if you don't control it.
3. Gyno can be unnoticeable until you feel around one day or look in the mirror one day, and to your surprise, you notice something. It doesn't require sensation to develop.
4. Use Tamoxifen or Raloxifene. Then use a AI after you do blood work. Later on, explore masteron, or primo etc.

I wouldn't be afraid of gyno. You can use any or all of the above to prevent and reduce gyno.
You should not be afraid to increase your testosterone because gyno can be controlled. Just have these ancillaries on hand and you'll sleep easy at night knowing that you can fix the problem on your own should it arise.

 

[Titan18]

1. It's good to know your E2 but it doesn't matter so much, because some people are extemely gyno sensitive no matter their E2 number.
2. Gyno can slowly develop or come on quickly. For example, old men slowly develop gyno and it will slowly develop for you too if you don't control it.
3. Gyno can be unnoticeable until you feel around one day or look in the mirror one day, and to your surprise, you notice something. It doesn't require sensation to develop.
4. Use Tamoxifen or Raloxifene. Then use a AI after you do blood work. Later on, explore masteron, or primo etc.

I wouldn't be afraid of gyno. You can use any or all of the above to prevent and reduce gyno.
You should not be afraid to increase your testosterone because gyno can be controlled. Just have these ancillaries on hand and you'll sleep easy at night knowing that you can fix the problem on your own should it arise.

listen to this guy. This is all you need to know. Quit playing with your tittys it's gonna be ok bro.

 

[strangegenericguy]

1. It's good to know your E2 but it doesn't matter so much, because some people are extemely gyno sensitive no matter their E2 number.
2. Gyno can slowly develop or come on quickly. For example, old men slowly develop gyno and it will slowly develop for you too if you don't control it.
3. Gyno can be unnoticeable until you feel around one day or look in the mirror one day, and to your surprise, you notice something. It doesn't require sensation to develop.
4. Use Tamoxifen or Raloxifene. Then use a AI after you do blood work. Later on, explore masteron, or primo etc.

I wouldn't be afraid of gyno. You can use any or all of the above to prevent and reduce gyno.
You should not be afraid to increase your testosterone because gyno can be controlled. Just have these ancillaries on hand and you'll sleep easy at night knowing that you can fix the problem on your own should it arise.

That Is super right, you can control the gyno in every way that you want, from arimidex to letrozole...and even others, i wouldn't be scared too

 

[CoachTnasty]

If you're afraid of side effects from gear, don't use gear.

Dude really? You ever experience being hypogonadal? OP is talking about running 100mg a week of trt.

Here’s my experience man. Anything over 150mg and my gyno will get irritated.

Have some exemestane on hand to control estro. I usually find that 12mg on injection days does the trick and I seem to feel better on that then arimidex.

Raloxifene worked like gangbusters for shrinking my gyno but it scared me since I have a Vericose which can increase my chances of clots. Consider getting your D-diner checked before using.

Currently going to experiment with low does primo and the mast alongside my trt to see how that works.

 

[strangegenericguy]

Dude really? You ever experience being hypogonadal? OP is talking about running 100mg a week of trt.

Here’s my experience man. Anything over 150mg and my gyno will get irritated.

Have some exemestane on hand to control estro. I usually find that 12mg on injection days does the trick and I seem to feel better on that then arimidex.

Raloxifene worked like gangbusters for shrinking my gyno but it scared me since I have a Vericose which can increase my chances of clots. Consider getting your D-diner checked before using.

Currently going to experiment with low does primo and the mast alongside my trt to see how that works.

do it step by step...keep on look on exemestane...arimidex, you can arrive until letrozole, don't warry!

 

[GoldenTable]

1. It's good to know your E2 but it doesn't matter so much, because some people are extemely gyno sensitive no matter their E2 number.
2. Gyno can slowly develop or come on quickly. For example, old men slowly develop gyno and it will slowly develop for you too if you don't control it.
3. Gyno can be unnoticeable until you feel around one day or look in the mirror one day, and to your surprise, you notice something. It doesn't require sensation to develop.
4. Use Tamoxifen or Raloxifene. Then use a AI after you do blood work. Later on, explore masteron, or primo etc.

I wouldn't be afraid of gyno. You can use any or all of the above to prevent and reduce gyno.
You should not be afraid to increase your testosterone because gyno can be controlled. Just have these ancillaries on hand and you'll sleep easy at night knowing that you can fix the problem on your own should it arise.

Thank you for your kind words!
I already have everything at hand (tamox, exe and even some mast), however I want to get bloodwork done before I throw in additional stuff without knowing my values first. I've read enough posts here where one expected to have high e2 (oftentimes because of one symptom only), but in reality the e2 wasn't the issue. So I certainly would like to avoid this behaviour. And this is why I posted this question here. Basically I wanted to know whether the 5-6weeks on TRT (until the first labs are done) are enough time to grow my gyno.

Thanks again