Second cycle critique

[amindzeye]

I keep thinking of different ways to try maximizing the cycle. Based on thoughts of my first cycle. I don't want to front load, and burn out my receptors, but I would like to utilize the first 5-6weeks better. I had pretty bad, almost crippling pip at certain times throughout the first cycle. I'm not sure if I'm sensitive to the ester or carrier oil. During my first cycle I was using Test E (MCT oil) 300mg/ml.

So with all this in mind how ridiculous does this plan seem?

12 week cycle
weeks 1-6
Test P (Peach) - 50mg/ 3xweek
Test C (GSO) - 100mg/3xweek
Mast P(MCT) - 100mg/ 3xweek
Mast E (GSO) -100mg/ 3xweek

Total Test - 450mg/week
Total Mast - 450mg/week

For the first 6 weeks use prop esters for mast and test, to see full effect sooner, and utilize that time better until the long esters kick in. During this time I wouldn't be injecting any more than 1ml of any carrier oil, minimizing pip that may be associated. No more than 1.5ml of any ester.

During this time no Test E, so if I don't get any pip, I'll know that's what I am sensitive to. I will have blood work done by this time to know how well I'm controlling my e2. I will administer 25mg/2xweek of aromasin which should drop e2 down 80 points, putting somewhere around 80-90. With the addition of mast, I would hope this will prevent any sides related to high e2 from manifesting.

weeks 7-12
Test C (GSO) - 200mg/ 2xweek
Mast E (GSO) - 200mg/2xweek

At this point I will have no Test E or MCT oil. If I have slight pip in the first 6 weeks, but not as bad as the first cycle, I'll suspect it's the mct oil. If I don't have any pip weeks 7-12 it'll be confirmed. Dropping total mg per week by 100 due to the addition of orals.

Anadrol 50mg/day weeks 6-9
Anavar 50mg/day weeks 10-12

Split the orals up with anadrol only being run for 4 weeks, then switching to anavar for the last 3 weeks reducing some stress on the organs, and to dry up towards the end of the cycle.

I'm not set on this, but just proposing it to see what flaws there are.

I started ^^^ Cycle today. I know I'm a high aromatizer.
My question is: Since I've added 150mg/week of Test P and 150mg/week of Mast P, should I introduce an AI sooner that I otherwise would have? Which would have been at week 3 due to adding HCG, which coverts to e2 also.

 

[MrGTO]

I started ^^^ Cycle today. I know I'm a high aromatizer.
My question is: Since I've added 150mg/week of Test P and 150mg/week of Mast P, should I introduce an AI sooner that I otherwise would have? Which would have been at week 3 due to adding HCG, which coverts to e2 also.

Dont add drugs just because. Your second cycle may go different. If you gets sides use AI or get bloodwork then adjust with AI if your high. I would not assume anything.

 

[HKOX]

Masteron and Primo really bring down my bloat to zero on 600mg test, so wait and see how you respond to the Masteron.

 

[amindzeye]

On 500mg test, my e2 was 190 with 12.5mg/week of exemestane. Increasing to 25mg/week lowered it to 153. So I'm pretty sure that even though I'm' using masteron, I'll still have to use asin. Luckily I'm not gyno prone. Though being that bloated affected my breathing.

 

[amindzeye]

@Mac11wildcat I seen you mentioned in another thread, most people introduce ancillaries nilly willy. What's your opinion on:

I started ^^^ Cycle today. I know I'm a high aromatizer.
My question is: Since I've added 150mg/week of Test P and 150mg/week of Mast P, should I introduce an AI sooner that I otherwise would have? Which would have been at week 3 due to adding HCG, which coverts to e2 also.

On 500mg test, my e2 was 190 with 12.5mg/week of exemestane. Increasing to 25mg/week lowered it to 153. So I'm pretty sure that even though I'm' using masteron, I'll still have to use asin. Luckily I'm not gyno prone. Though being that bloated affected my breathing.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

That is absolutely absurd aromatization…

At that point I’d be looking at exploring the cruise/TRT test and getting my oomph from other anabolics that’s don’t aromatize like test does. There’s a limit to the “if it isn’t causing side effects, elevated isn’t bad,” and I can’t tell you where that line is but 7-10x normal range is def it lol.

You’re looking at 50-60mg of aromasin or more just to get near range. Only other thought is seeing how arimidex or possibly even letro works.

TLDR: don’t force square pegs into round holes

 

[amindzeye]

That is absolutely absurd aromatization…

At that point I’d be looking at exploring the cruise/TRT test and getting my oomph from other anabolics that’s don’t aromatize like test does. There’s a limit to the “if it isn’t causing side effects, elevated isn’t bad,” and I can’t tell you where that line is but 7-10x normal range is def it lol.

You’re looking at 50-60mg of aromasin or more just to get near range. Only other thought is seeing how arimidex or possibly even letro works.

TLDR: don’t force square pegs into round holes

Yeah I was thinking the same thing... 50mg of asin should put my e2 around 80. I'm going to try this out, and see if it's accurate. I do use HCG throughout the cycle. I figured that was a good part of the aromatization. Do you think I should start dosing the aromasin before I start HCG at week 3 due to using shorter ester Test Prop as well as Cyp?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing... 50mg of asin should put my e2 around 80. I'm going to try this out, and see if it's accurate. I do use HCG throughout the cycle. I figured that was a good part of the aromatization. Do you think I should start dosing the aromasin before I start HCG at week 3 due to using shorter ester Test Prop as well as Cyp?

Im not part of the hcg during cycle camp so you’d be better asking someone else on that, but yes, prop will raise T and e2 sooner than cyp.

 

[amindzeye]

Im not part of the hcg during cycle camp so you’d be better asking someone else on that, but yes, prop will raise T and e2 sooner than cyp.

Really? What are you thoughts on hcg during cycle. I take what you say with more than a grain of salt, so I'd like your opinion on that.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Really? What are you thoughts on hcg during cycle. I take what you say with more than a grain of salt, so I'd like your opinion on that.

It never aligned with my goals. I know I’d be blasting and cruising and the impacts from it are superficial on cycle, to the best of my knowledge, so I never did it. If you PCT, I get it completely.