Second cycle with tren ace, test prop and dianabol, needs help!

[Manny]

Yest cyp 2xs week, 250mills each. Eq the last 6 weeks 1 g a week, dbol, I.m 45 day, last 4 weeks adrol, I.m 50 day. Had a month off in the beginning and around 3 weeks when major shit was going on.in between@tileguy123

 

[TommyVerce]

All right then, I'm gonna take that one easy for 8 weeks as hotdog23 suggested. I'm happy with slower gainz but I will save the idea of higher tren for the next time will see how it goes. So something like this: I' still not sure about how to implement Dbol in the whole thing, can someone help me with that?

Weeks 1-8 350 mg test prop and tren ace
Weeks 1-4 30 mg Dbol (or run it for longer?)
Weeks 2-8 hcg 250iu 2-3x per week
3 days after last pin pct
nolva 40/40/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/50

Amiridex, I'm gonna buy it and keep it handy If I see any symptoms, I will start taking it at 0.25 mg eod and adjust accordingly.

 

[stang4u2nv]

Good job this time around. I would suggest to "have" the adex on hand and not wait until something happens to start looking for it. Have it on hand and inject without worrying about it.

 

[TommyVerce]

Thanks stang4u2nv. I've been thinking about this again and researching again and I've got something like this. I just need the last touch from you guys. Again I'm starting this cycle around 8% body fat.

Weeks 1-3 weeks 450 mg a week of Sustanon 300 mg/ml 3 times a week
Weeks 1-3 weeks 300 mg a week of Deca 250mg/ml 3 times a week
Weeks 1-8 350 mg a week of test prop 100 mg/ml and tren ace 100 mg/ml ED 50 mg each
Weeks 1-6 20 mg Dbol ED 6th week 30 mg ED until run out
3 days after last pin pct
2-4 Weeks HCG 1000iu 2-3x per week
nolva 40/40/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/50

Amiridex, I'm gonna have it and use only when something starts to happen but I don't thinks so cos the previous time around I didn't have any gyno symptoms and I'm still just doing very small doses comparing to other people.

 

[hotdog23]

Thanks stang4u2nv. I've been thinking about this again and researching again and I've got something like this. I just need the last touch from you guys. Again I'm starting this cycle around 8% body fat.

Weeks 1-3 weeks 450 mg a week of Sustanon 300 mg/ml 3 times a week
Weeks 1-3 weeks 300 mg a week of Deca 250mg/ml 3 times a week
Weeks 1-8 350 mg a week of test prop 100 mg/ml and tren ace 100 mg/ml ED 50 mg each
Weeks 1-6 20 mg Dbol ED 6th week 30 mg ED until run out
3 days after last pin pct
2-4 Weeks HCG 1000iu 2-3x per week
nolva 40/40/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/50

Amiridex, I'm gonna have it and use only when something starts to happen but I don't thinks so cos the previous time around I didn't have any gyno symptoms and I'm still just doing very small doses comparing to other people.

Kick ass lil cycle IMO.

I would honestly frontload the sust and deca on day 1. ALL OF IT, IT WILL NOT HURT YOU, it will allow those long slow esters to build up quickly and be effective for you quickly. Use all the dbol up week 1-4. You wanna use the dbol with test and deca. Awesome synergy

Then do the rest as planned. The sust and deca will be slowly releasing for 5-6 weeks after that first pin. So just cause you aren't pinning for 3 weeks doesn't mean you don't have a good dose of hormones in your body waiting to be de-esterfied

You WILL need adex while running dbol. This i promise. Just make sure it's legit. It's not just for gyno. High estro is bad for many reasons. Control that shit.

Good luck tommy. Proud of u boy

 

[stang4u2nv]

@TommyVerce looks good. If it was me and i was only doing 8 weeks the sustanon would not be my first choice because of the long esters in it. By the time they start to kick in you'll be half way or so. The prop sure its fast which is the whole point of this cycle. Nonetheless tommy do it and report back to us. Thank you for doing your part and nothing personal brother.

 

[TommyVerce]

Thanks hotdog23, you da man! Your help is highly appreciated!
stang4u2nv, I'm using sus and deca cos they are leftovers from my previous cycle so I just thought why not to use it even that it's only 5 ml of each. I'm sure it won't go to waste. No worries man, no offense taken, I've learnt the rules of the game over here now And thanks for your advice too. I would like to do a longer cycle but my situation is quite unstable now I might stay where I am now or might move to another country in a few months and I don't wanna be caught up in the middle of a long cycle. My max was 12 weeks but I'm happy with 8, and it's my second cycle anyway.

So here I go. I'm gonna update my cycle so just someone hotdog23 or stang4u2nv can Ok me on that?

Day 1 5 ml of Sustanon 300 mg/ml
Day 1 5 ml of Deca 250mg/ml
Weeks 1-8 350 mg a week of test prop 100 mg/ml and tren ace 100 mg/ml ED 50 mg each
Weeks 1-4 (first 2 weeks of 30 mg Dbol ED) then (2 weeks of 40mg Dbol ED until run out)
3 days after last pin pct
2-4 Weeks hcg 1000iu 2-3x per week
nolva 40/40/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/50

Amiridex - I'm gonna use it as prescribed by hotdog23, will start with 0.25 mg ED and adjust as needed.

 

[stang4u2nv]

@TommyVerce , enjoy your gainz, watch your estrogen and enjoy.

 

[TommyVerce]

@TommyVerce , enjoy your gainz, watch your estrogen and enjoy.

All right then thanks, I will collect the missing ingredients cut down a little bit more and should be ready within 2 weeks I will also post a before pics and stats for anyone interested

 

[hotdog23]

Thanks hotdog23, you da man! Your help is highly appreciated!
stang4u2nv, I'm using sus and deca cos they are leftovers from my previous cycle so I just thought why not to use it even that it's only 5 ml of each. I'm sure it won't go to waste. No worries man, no offense taken, I've learnt the rules of the game over here now And thanks for your advice too. I would like to do a longer cycle but my situation is quite unstable now I might stay where I am now or might move to another country in a few months and I don't wanna be caught up in the middle of a long cycle. My max was 12 weeks but I'm happy with 8, and it's my second cycle anyway.

So here I go. I'm gonna update my cycle so just someone hotdog23 or stang4u2nv can Ok me on that?

Day 1 5 ml of Sustanon 300 mg/ml
Day 1 5 ml of Deca 250mg/ml
Weeks 1-8 350 mg a week of test prop 100 mg/ml and tren ace 100 mg/ml ED 50 mg each
Weeks 1-4 (first 2 weeks of 30 mg Dbol ED) then (2 weeks of 40mg Dbol ED until run out)
3 days after last pin pct
2-4 Weeks hcg 1000iu 2-3x per week
nolva 40/40/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/50

Amiridex - I'm gonna use it as prescribed by hotdog23, will start with 0.25 mg ED and adjust as needed.

Ok start adex .25 eod

Also hcg? Weeks 2-9 250iu 2x week
- if you wanna do a hcg blast in pct you run it 1000iu eod for ten days in pct along with SERMs

Just keep it simple and use hcg on cycle and ONLY first week of pct. You will not recover properly if you use it the whole pct

 

[TommyVerce]

Ok start adex .25 eod

Also hcg? Weeks 2-9 250iu 2x week
- if you wanna do a hcg blast in pct you run it 1000iu eod for ten days in pct along with SERMs

Just keep it simple and use hcg on cycle and ONLY first week of pct. You will not recover properly if you use it the whole pct

Then I think, I'm gonna run it only for 10 days along with my PCT like you said 1000iu's EOD. But I've done my research as well, anyway just look at this:



Especially the part about shooting test and hcg at the same time, I heard him saying that before and it makes sense to me. Let me know what you think.

Oh yeah, thanks for the advice on adex.

 

[hotdog23]

That's one way to do it tommy. Glad to see you doing research! Seems like u got it figured out

 

[TommyVerce]

You know I like to listen to everyone's opinion and then figure out things by myself. But your help hotdog23 was priceless here.

 

[TommyVerce]

Guys one more question about injecting prop and tren, I've already done my research but wanna know your opinion too. Does it make any difference if I inject 50 mg ED and 100mg EOD? I read that it's better to do it ED but EOD should be ok too since half lifes of those compunds are like 3 days?

 

[TommyVerce]

Ok nevermind, already found the answer