Second thoughts about my cycle.

MJM

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Hey guys I thought I had the best cycle possible for myself and my goals but one of my buddies is saying different.He is saying not to run Tren Enanthate because I won't feel like going to class and doing shit during the day.What do you think I should do?Here's what he says I should do for my cycle, let me know what you think.By the way I'm 5'8 155 and coming back from an injury about 4 months ago and am weak as hell right now benching 225, cleaning 135 and squatting 250.Thanks a lot.This is the weakest I have ever been, and I am ready to step it up.Thanks.

Week 1-5 Dianabol 40 MG/ED
Week 1-15 Omnadren 750 MG/WK
Week 1-15 Equipoise 1000 MG/WK
Week 1-8 Tren Enanthate 300 MG/WK

Here was my original cycle.

Week 1-5 Dianabol 40 MG/ED
Week 1-15 Omnadren 750 MG/WK
Week 1-15 Equipoise 500 MG/WK
Week 1-12 Tren Enanthate 500 MG/WK

He says that's way to heavy and I'll be soaked every night and have the worst case of insomnia ever fucking witnessed.He said to either drop the Tren dosage or drop it all the way.He said the Equipoise will give me good strength gains and will pack on solid mass that I'll keep for sure, and the vascularity at that dosage is second to none, and says because I'm 8% body fat I'll have veins everywhere and I'll like the way I look and feel better with this cycle rather than the other and it isn't worth the risk.What's your guys input on this?Thanks a lot.
 
What tren make you lazy? What about the weed you are obviosly smoking did he say anything about that, lol.

I think the revised cycle looks fine to me. You really don't need super high doses of tren enanthate. I'm using 250mg/week by itself and I'm 6' @255 and 23y/o. Gained about 20lb on this stuff.

But I'm so lazy to begin with I couldn't get any lazier. I'm a lazy bum and love it.
 
MJM said:
Hey guys I thought I had the best cycle possible for myself and my goals but one of my buddies is saying different.He is saying not to run Tren Enanthate because I won't feel like going to class and doing shit during the day.What do you think I should do?Here's what he says I should do for my cycle, let me know what you think.By the way I'm 5'8 155 and coming back from an injury about 4 months ago and am weak as hell right now benching 225, cleaning 135 and squatting 250.Thanks a lot.This is the weakest I have ever been, and I am ready to step it up.Thanks.

Week 1-5 Dianabol 40 MG/ED
Week 1-15 Omnadren 750 MG/WK
Week 1-15 Equipoise 1000 MG/WK
Week 1-8 Tren Enanthate 300 MG/WK

Here was my original cycle.

Week 1-5 Dianabol 40 MG/ED
Week 1-15 Omnadren 750 MG/WK
Week 1-15 Equipoise 500 MG/WK
Week 1-12 Tren Enanthate 500 MG/WK

He says that's way to heavy and I'll be soaked every night and have the worst case of insomnia ever fucking witnessed.He said to either drop the Tren dosage or drop it all the way.He said the Equipoise will give me good strength gains and will pack on solid mass that I'll keep for sure, and the vascularity at that dosage is second to none, and says because I'm 8% body fat I'll have veins everywhere and I'll like the way I look and feel better with this cycle rather than the other and it isn't worth the risk.What's your guys input on this?Thanks a lot.
shit thats alot of EQ bro,some might be wasted, I would lower to see how you feel then up the dose, as far as the tren goes, you could feel fine at 300, but I would lower the EQ keep it even with omnadren , you will have slow but very solid gaines from the EQ, I love EQ as I do Deca, shit I like all AAS my next cycle is almost same I just finished I am going to start it in about a week, I like to take only 4 weeks off, 50mg anadrol day first 14days then 100mg day next 14 days, 1000mg test eneth and 600mg deca week am will be running that for 14 - 15 weeks, then drop the deca last 2 weeks into cycle and put winny in at 50mg day for 3 weeks, my liver is going to take a beating, but I want to pack on all the weight I lost because of my fucking injuries I had early in the year
 
Well it is very important I do good in class as my father could stop paying for my tuition, etc.I am an average student normally and my friend says I will be so soaked up from using Tren I won't be able to sleep at night and won't feel like doing anything during the day.What do you guys think?I'm considering just using a shitload of Equipoise and a little bit of Tren, or do you think it is safe to use a lot of Tren?Do most of you bro's keep all the vascularity from EQ or Tren?Thanks.
 
MJM said:
Well it is very important I do good in class as my father could stop paying for my tuition, etc.I am an average student normally and my friend says I will be so soaked up from using Tren I won't be able to sleep at night and won't feel like doing anything during the day.What do you guys think?I'm considering just using a shitload of Equipoise and a little bit of Tren, or do you think it is safe to use a lot of Tren?Do most of you bro's keep all the vascularity from EQ or Tren?Thanks.
you will keep most of your gaines from EQ I dont like tren because I get no sleep,
 
Yeah I may wait to take it, is it pretty easy to get those shitty side effects?My buddy says that's why everyone such an ass is because they are tired and irritable.What do you think?

ramboj70 said:
you will keep most of your gaines from EQ I dont like tren because I get no sleep,
 
MJM said:
Yeah I may wait to take it, is it pretty easy to get those shitty side effects?My buddy says that's why everyone such an ass is because they are tired and irritable.What do you think?

Haha I thought your friend meant that tren made you lazy. That is why you wouldn't want to do anything during the day. Tren slightly effects my sleep. I awaken more easily because of the sweating. So keep a fan on you. And you don't need 500mg of tren a week. It's a waste. Same with 1g of EQ/week waste for not much added benefit if any.
 
So you think I'll be okay if I keep a fan on me, it won't affect anything else such as school, etc?Thanks.

TheSpectre said:
Haha I thought your friend meant that tren made you lazy. That is why you wouldn't want to do anything during the day. Tren slightly effects my sleep. I awaken more easily because of the sweating. So keep a fan on you. And you don't need 500mg of tren a week. It's a waste. Same with 1g of EQ/week waste for not much added benefit if any.
 
MJM said:
So you think I'll be okay if I keep a fan on me, it won't affect anything else such as school, etc?Thanks.

Yeah I use a fan at night it really helps. But I am a sweaty pig and the bigger I get the worse it gets. So my face drips sweat walking through the grocery store. And fountains of sweat come off my face after I take a shower. Sweaty back, ass, and legs really are embarassing. I have prescription anti-perspirent but it isn't good enough. And I have to be honost the tren has made it a little worse since last summer. But then again I have gained a lot of muscle since then. Maybe I need to do some more cardio to make my heart more efficient.

Keep a sweat rag handy wherever you go.
 
Do you think it would be better to wait until winter to add Tren in then to experiment to how I react with it then?I'm normally pretty sweaty myself.Which I don't want to be a sweaty pig, how much better would my cycle be with Tren though?How much more body mass am I looking at, I think I may just run 1000 MG of Equipoise and drop the 500 MG Tren Enanthate.

TheSpectre said:
Yeah I use a fan at night it really helps. But I am a sweaty pig and the bigger I get the worse it gets. So my face drips sweat walking through the grocery store. And fountains of sweat come off my face after I take a shower. Sweaty back, ass, and legs really are embarassing. I have prescription anti-perspirent but it isn't good enough. And I have to be honost the tren has made it a little worse since last summer. But then again I have gained a lot of muscle since then. Maybe I need to do some more cardio to make my heart more efficient.

Keep a sweat rag handy wherever you go.
 
MJM said:
Do you think it would be better to wait until winter to add Tren in then to experiment to how I react with it then?I'm normally pretty sweaty myself.Which I don't want to be a sweaty pig, how much better would my cycle be with Tren though?How much more body mass am I looking at, I think I may just run 1000 MG of Equipoise and drop the 500 MG Tren Enanthate.

No, only thing I would save for the winter would be DNP if I ever did that again. Tren is king. It's effects are so powerful you are actually wasting the EQ by using it. Personally I would run it just as planned (the revamped one) but take out the EQ and save it for later or for a long taper with lots of clomid starting towards the end of the few weeks of the Omna/Tren.
 
Do you keep most of the strength from Tren though after you're off and mosto f the gains?I've heard you do but I never do from any other drugs.I guess I will give it a shot.How good is vascularity with it, as good as Equipoise?Do you usually keep most of the vascularity from Tren and/or Equipoise?Thanks.

TheSpectre said:
No, only thing I would save for the winter would be DNP if I ever did that again. Tren is king. It's effects are so powerful you are actually wasting the EQ by using it. Personally I would run it just as planned (the revamped one) but take out the EQ and save it for later or for a long taper with lots of clomid starting towards the end of the few weeks of the Omna/Tren.
 
bro why not just run tren acetate at say 75mg/EOD, just to see how your body responds to tren..you said you were doing a 15 weeker so if you can handle the tren acetate ok, just start the tren enan. at week 2 or 3

I have a buddy who takes 112.5mg/tren ED and doesnt get any insomnia from it...I tried it at 75mg/EOD and couldnt get to sleep before 2 or 3 am everyone is different
 
MJM said:
Do you keep most of the strength from Tren though after you're off and mosto f the gains?I've heard you do but I never do from any other drugs.I guess I will give it a shot.How good is vascularity with it, as good as Equipoise?Do you usually keep most of the vascularity from Tren and/or Equipoise?Thanks.

I don't keep much of the strength but the weight I do. But I use a lot of clomid and never really get off steroids just go from tren to test to winny to anadrol to d-bol to test back to tren & then start over again. The vascularity for me, at least, is better with tren as is everything except my weiner and my mood. The vascularity cannot really be kept as it's a higher concentration of red blood cells from the steroids causing it.
 
Well i need to keep my shit, any advice?what about IGF-1 once off?Or just that Primobolan at 200 MG/WK?I need something to keep everything, and I need something as an appetite stimulant if possible, that's the reason I can't keep my gains.

TheSpectre said:
I don't keep much of the strength but the weight I do. But I use a lot of clomid and never really get off steroids just go from tren to test to winny to anadrol to d-bol to test back to tren & then start over again. The vascularity for me, at least, is better with tren as is everything except my weiner and my mood. The vascularity cannot really be kept as it's a higher concentration of red blood cells from the steroids causing it.
 
MJM said:
Well i need to keep my shit, any advice?what about IGF-1 once off?Or just that Primobolan at 200 MG/WK?I need something to keep everything, and I need something as an appetite stimulant if possible, that's the reason I can't keep my gains.

Primo is too pricey, unless you are rich??? Same with GH or IGF-1. EQ makes me hungry as hell why not 500 or 600mg/week during your 'off' times?
 
That's exactly what I was thinking but everyone says I won't be able to get a boner or anything.I already have 200 MG/ML 20 ML Primbolan which should last me 20 weeks.

TheSpectre said:
Primo is too pricey, unless you are rich??? Same with GH or IGF-1. EQ makes me hungry as hell why not 500 or 600mg/week during your 'off' times?
 
MJM said:
That's exactly what I was thinking but everyone says I won't be able to get a boner or anything.I already have 200 MG/ML 20 ML Primbolan which should last me 20 weeks.

You will be able to if you take plenty of clomid towards the end of the tren/omna cycle and keep taking it at least 50mg EOD after that during the EQ. But I always have cialis on hand for that problem anyways.
 
Do you usually keep all of your gains from that cycle then with that type of bridge strength/mass/vascularity?I'm thinking I will try it.Thanks again.Do you still get hungry as fuck which causes you to eat more keeping your gains, possibly even gaining more?Thanks.

TheSpectre said:
You will be able to if you take plenty of clomid towards the end of the tren/omna cycle and keep taking it at least 50mg EOD after that during the EQ. But I always have cialis on hand for that problem anyways.
 
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