Serum HGH test results

MANDS your earlier suggestion regarding IGF is interesting but although GH certainly stimulates the IGF production I don't believe the converse is true. I don't recall a negative feedback mechanism for IGF effecting GH production (much like the gonadal - HTPA). There are ways to lower and increase GH levels prior to testing however. One just has to be patient, innovative and insightful to discover their usefulness!


Chapman IM, Hartman ML, Pieper KS, et al. Recovery of Growth Hormone Release from Suppression by Exogenous Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I): Evidence for a Suppressive Action of Free Rather Than Bound IGF-I. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 1998;83(8):2836-42. Recovery of Growth Hormone Release from Suppression by Exogenous Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I): Evidence for a Suppressive Action of Free Rather Than Bound IGF-I

To determine the time course of recovery of GH release from insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) suppression, 11 healthy adults (18–29 yr) received, in randomized order, 4-h iv infusions of recombinant human IGF-I (rhIGF-I; 3 ?g/kg•h) or saline (control) from 25.5–29.5 h of a 47.5-h fast. Serum GH was maximally suppressed within 2 h and remained suppressed for 2 h after the rhIGF-I infusion; during this 4-h period, GH concentrations were approximately 25% of control day levels [median (interquartile range), 1.2 (0.4–4.0) vs. 4.8 (2.8–7.9) ?g/L; P < 0.05]. A rebound increase in GH concentrations occurred 5–7 h after the end of rhIGF-I infusion [7.6 (4.6–11.7) vs. 4.3 (2.5–6.0) ?g/L; P < 0.05]. Thereafter, serum GH concentrations were similar on both days. Total IGF-I concentrations peaked at the end of the rhIGF-I infusion (432 ± 43 vs. 263 ± 44 ?g/L; P < 0.0001) and remained elevated 18 h after the rhIGF-I infusion (360 ± 36 vs. 202 ± 23 ?g/L; P = 0.001). Free IGF-I concentrations were approximately 140% above control day values at the end of the infusion (2.1 ± 0.4 vs. 0.88 ± 0.3 ?g/L; P = 0.001), but declined to baseline within 2 h after the infusion. The close temporal association between the resolution of GH suppression and the fall of free IGF-I concentrations, and the lack of any association with total IGF-I concentrations suggest that unbound (free), not protein-bound, IGF-I is the major IGF-I component responsible for this suppression. The rebound increase in GH concentrations after the end of rhIGF-I infusion is consistent with cessation of an inhibitory effect of free IGF-I on GH release.


Yuen K, Frystyk J, Umpleby M, Fryklund L, Dunger D. Changes in Free Rather Than Total Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I Enhance Insulin Sensitivity and Suppress Endogenous Peak Growth Hormone (GH) Release following Short-Term Low-Dose GH Administration in Young Healthy Adults. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 2004;89(8):3956-64. Changes in Free Rather Than Total Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I Enhance Insulin Sensitivity and Suppress Endogenous Peak Growth Hormone (GH) Release following Short-Term Low-Dose GH Administration in Young Healthy Adults

High-dose GH administration is commonly associated with impaired insulin sensitivity (SI) in humans. Paradoxically we have shown that low-dose GH (1.7 ?g/kg•d) administration enhances ?-cell function in young healthy adults. In the present double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over study, we explored the physiological effects of this low GH dose on glucose metabolism in 12 young healthy adults (seven males, 19–29 yr). At pretreatment and after each 14-d treatment block, overnight metabolic profiles were assessed followed by a hyperinsulinemic euglycemic clamp, whereas fasting blood samples were collected weekly.

In subjects treated with GH first (group A, n = 6), GH treatment increased total IGF-I (P < 0.05) and IGF binding protein-3 (P < 0.01) after 7 d, but these levels subsequently returned to pretreatment levels after 14 d. In contrast, free IGF-I increased (P < 0.05), and overnight GH pulse peak amplitude decreased (P < 0.01) after 14 d. In subjects treated with placebo first (group B, n = 6), all biochemical parameters were unchanged after placebo treatment, whereas the changes in free and total IGF-I were similar to those of group A after GH treatment. Combined clamp data from both groups A and B (n = 12) showed that 14-d GH treatment decreased overnight plasma insulin levels (P < 0.02) and hepatic glucose appearance (P < 0.05) and increased SI (P < 0.01). Of note, the GH-induced changes in SI positively correlated with the changes in free IGF-I (r = 0.72, P < 0.01).

In conclusion, low-dose GH administration enhanced SI and suppressed endogenous peak GH release, and we hypothesize that these effects are the direct result of increased serum levels of free IGF-I.


Chen J-W, Hojlund K, Beck-Nielsen H, Sandahl Christiansen J, Orskov H, Frystyk J. Free Rather than Total Circulating Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I Determines the Feedback on Growth Hormone Release in Normal Subjects. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 2005;90(1):366-71. Free Rather than Total Circulating Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I Determines the Feedback on Growth Hormone Release in Normal Subjects

Pituitary GH secretion is feedback regulated by circulating IGF-I. However, it remains to be determined whether the feedback control is mediated through circulating free or total IGF-I. To study this, we compared the temporal changes in circulating levels of GH vs. free and total IGF-I during fasting.

Seventeen healthy normal-weight subjects (body mass index 23.4 ± 0.6 kg/m2) were studied during 80 h of fasting. Serum was assayed for GH every 3 h; total, free, and bioactive IGF-I, IGF binding protein (IGFBP)-1, -2, and -3 as well as IGFBP-1 bound IGF-I were assayed every morning.

During fasting, mean 24-h GH levels increased from 1.41 ± 0.20 to 3.01 ± 0.46 and 2.09 ± 0.30 ?g/liter (d 1 vs. d 2 and 3; P < 0.03). After 24 h of fasting, free and bioactive IGF-I had decreased by 40 ± 5 and 17 ± 5%, respectively (P < 0.02), and both concentrations remained suppressed for the rest of the study. In contrast, total IGF-I remained unchanged until the end of d 3, at which levels were slightly reduced (P < 0.007). IGFBP-1 increased from 38 ± 2 to 137 ± 24, 212 ± 32, and 214 ± 22 ?g/liter (d 1 vs. d 2, d 3, and end of d 3; P < 0.0001), and these changes closely paralleled those of IGFBP-1-bound IGF-I (P < 0.0001). IGFBP-2 increased only transiently at d 2 (P < 0.05), and IGFBP-3 remained unchanged. The increase in mean 24-h GH levels from d 1 to d 2 correlated inversely with the relative reduction in free IGF-I from d 1 to d 2 (r = ?0.51; P = 0.04), i.e. the larger the reduction in free IGF-I, the larger the increase in GH. None of the other IGF-related parameters correlated with GH.

In conclusion, the temporal relationship between the increase in GH and the reduction in free IGF-I supports the hypothesis that circulating free IGF-I mediates the feedback regulation of GH secretion.
 
The high end studied "pediatric" dose use for growth hormone replacement approximates .057/mg/kg/day, thus a 70kg males (which your probably not) upper level insurance approval would approximate 4mg or 12IU per day, providing you were deemed growth deficient, below the 10th percentile for either height or weight.
However if you were an primary (low GH) hypogonadal adult male with infertility issues yet whose height and weight were above the 10th percentile most insurance companies would rarely approve, and pay for, a dose exceeding 0.02mg/kg/day or
1.4mg/day (4 IU/day).
Your growth hormone level once measured "113", what are the units being used?
What are the study lab norms for GH?
Did you follow their suggested protocol, should one exist?
Could you post the actual lab slip or a complete reproduction of it?

My base line growth hormone serum level is <0.1 ng/dl
The test I am refering to today was 10 iu's or 3.3 mg of Riptropin. I have posted the test results eariler in the thread. I can forward you all the test results along with complete blood work tomorrow. The test result was growth hormone serum level. I injected 10 iu's IM at 11:15 am and had blood drawn at 2:15 pm. I had not eaten since 7:00 am before the test. No other r-hgh had been used for 3 weeks prior. Normal daily doseage is 4 IU's per day now. Will increase that doseage up to 6 iu's on Monday. I am 6'4" 290 lbs 52 years old body fat in the 25% range +- 2%
 
Based on the article cited by Dr S and others I reviewed,
a GH level of 113ng/ml is entirely inconsistent with the known pharmokinetics of rHGH administration. For example the subjects in the article cited by Dr. S had a mean body weight of 80kg and were given roughly THREE mg of rGH. The peak level of between 10-20 ng/ml was reached approximately 4.5 hours with the needle and syringe method. This waiting period is consistent with your time interval from administration to lab testing. Thus your values are between 5-10 times HIGHER than would be expected. I really don't know of anything which may account for the difference except a much higher concentrate of rGH which you used.
I wonder if all of the vials are superconcentrated or are some considerably under dosed. I guess only time or repeat testing will tell.
 
I will do another test next week on a differant kit. But they are all the same lot number and manu date. Won't 10 iu's covert to 3.3 mg's? Will update when results are in. I can tell you that my blood glucose levels are through the roof and 30 ius of humlin r won't bring them down much under 200. I had the very same problem with a russian made growth back in the 90's. That stuff was so strong I had to quit using it
 
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Dr.S, thanks for the IGF refresher IGF articles I believe I had an apoplectic fugue when I made that comment.!
 
bump for results. Ive been on ProM for 8 years and am new to GH but not impressed by what im seeing. Was going to place another order but want to hold off for a bit.
 
I just ordered some generic blue tops from new source so far seem good I haven't checked gh levels but have regular sign swollen hands and sleeping like a champ. But I have been burnt before I just need to get a gh serum test just being lazy to go and spend the money too. I think thought for $160 a kit not too bad also had igf1lr3 decent price too $99 for 10 vials of .01mg I thought was decent if it's receptor grade I'll keep you posted first time using igf cycle well see how well it works for me I know peptides are a 50/50 works for some and not for others.
 
I have my test results again from Labcorp. The protocal was the same as last time. I even went as far to call Labcorp and ask them specificly what test they were running for me, they replied "growth hormone serum level, not IGF1" I guess i could have them verify the test results but I fear the results would be the same, just like last time. So here is the number..... 376.0. Now I know I will get flamed for posting that number. Anyone have any thoughts on how this number could be so high?
 

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