Shipping to a post office

boomy123

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I currently am living on campus at college so shipping to my apartment building would be risky. Does it make sense to ship to my local usps with the “hold for pickup option”? I am worried that it might cause issues if the package isn’t fully discrete.
 
Sounds like a bad idea.

It would be a much better idea to hold off on self prescribing any sort of exogenous compound until your body is fully developed, you are more established, finished with your studies, and have your own place to send parcels to.

Now is the time to put in the work to learn how to train and diet right naturally. You can make significant progress this way and may even surprise your self.

I too found my self browsing this forum at 18 highly considering using PED's, but got some good advice to wait, and I'm sure glad I did. I would have really messed things up and caused permanent damage to my body.

Minimizing the risks of using AAS requires a lot of time and effort. Frequent labs and incorporating a slough of ancillaries to manage side effects. Better to start something like this when you have a stable career to fund the endeavor and have had the time to do the research required.

If you're going to ignore this any way, then I would say send to a trusted friends house or get a P.O. Box.

Best of luck
 
Sounds like a bad idea.

It would be a much better idea to hold off on self prescribing any sort of exogenous compound until your body is fully developed, you are more established, finished with your studies, and have your own place to send parcels to.

Now is the time to put in the work to learn how to train and diet right naturally. You can make significant progress this way and may even surprise your self.

I too found my self browsing this forum at 18 highly considering using PED's, but got some good advice to wait, and I'm sure glad I did. I would have really messed things up and caused permanent damage to my body.

Minimizing the risks of using AAS requires a lot of time and effort. Frequent labs and incorporating a slough of ancillaries to manage side effects. Better to start something like this when you have a stable career to fund the endeavor and have had the time to do the research required.

If you're going to ignore this any way, then I would say send to a trusted friends house or get a P.O. Box.

Best of luck
I really appreciate the comment. I don’t want to sound corny but I am truly at a point where my mental health is so bad that this is my last option. And I will probably get a P.O. Box now .
 
I really appreciate the comment. I don’t want to sound corny but I am truly at a point where my mental health is so bad that this is my last option. And I will probably get a P.O. Box now .
Abusing AAS will not make your mental health better, it will probably make it worse. Much worse.

I had a similar mindset to you on my first cycle, except luckily I waited until I was 25 to not damage my developing body's endocrine system. I was depressed and thought some high test would fix me right up. Sure, I got bigger and stronger, but I got terrible acne, bloated in my face, and my estradiol was out of wack. My mental health went of the deep end. I felt like shit. Acne was so bad I bled through shirts and it hurt to lay down. Ended up cutting it short because of how terrible the sides were. This was only on 400 test.

Something similar may be in store for you if you decide to go down this path. AAS are not the answer you're looking for.
 
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My rule of thumb is that most men should not dive in to the deep end before 30 years old. I started when I was 26 or so, because my endogenous test was almost non-existent (injury related).

OP didn't say he is 18 - but the context lends itself to assuming he is very close to 18.

OP - If your endogenous hormones are out of whack, I would put some effort in to figuring out why - before buying gear and starting down the road so early. That means do labs and learn what is your baseline, if you have not done so already. Then if the baseline is out of range, explore causes.

If all else fails, like what happened to me, then maybe there is enough reason to give it a try, something simple like a long ester test, just to get your levels in the normal range. Max out (diet, routine) before moving beyond baseline.

Just my two cents.
 
Regarding the original question - using a PO box or hold order. It sounds like you are in US&A... on a college campus. I haven't been on a college campus for a very long time, but I distinctly recall an abundance of local sources for damn near anything.

And if there isn't a local source, my understanding is that USPS is the preferred shipper (and not others like FedEX or UPS) because of a nuance related to legality of USPS searching packages.

How would you get normal mail on campus? Why not just use that normal method?
 
I currently am living on campus at college so shipping to my apartment building would be risky. Does it make sense to ship to my local usps with the “hold for pickup option”? I am worried that it might cause issues if the package isn’t fully discrete.

Perfectly safe.

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I really appreciate the comment. I don’t want to sound corny but I am truly at a point where my mental health is so bad that this is my last option. And I will probably get a P.O. Box now .

If you're getting a PO box I recommend getting UPS instead of USPS. Get the smallest size, anything that can't fit will just be held behind the counter.
 
My rule of thumb is that most men should not dive in to the deep end before 30 years old. I started when I was 26 or so, because my endogenous test was almost non-existent (injury related).

OP didn't say he is 18 - but the context lends itself to assuming he is very close to 18.

OP - If your endogenous hormones are out of whack, I would put some effort in to figuring out why - before buying gear and starting down the road so early. That means do labs and learn what is your baseline, if you have not done so already. Then if the baseline is out of range, explore causes.

If all else fails, like what happened to me, then maybe there is enough reason to give it a try, something simple like a long ester test, just to get your levels in the normal range. Max out (diet, routine) before moving beyond baseline.

Just my two cents.
My baseline test was at 685 off of three hours sleep. All my other bloodwork was solid as well (never tested for igf1 itself). My poor physique is a result of my bad frame, I have wide clavicles and great chest genetics but extremely small wrist so much so that after 3 years of training I look like I have never lifted and look weird in a shirt cause of my chest. I’m probably gonna run an hgh only cycle.
 
Why ups over usps? The local usps office offers the same service you mentioned.

longer opening hours
you'll most slightly have to queue up to collect every pack (they wont fit the PO box), usps has horrible queue times
less lost packs
easier to ship to (some carriers wont ship to PO box)
 
Why ups over usps? The local usps office offers the same service you mentioned.
Ah I see. You are a BP'd lookmaxxer being influenced by Clavicular. Should probably start with bone smashing and putting makeup on first to see where that gets you.

As far as your natty IGF-1:
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(I saw this shared by another user, which I think is very helpful, but I couldn't find his post)

You have some of the highest levels you will ever have right now and exogenous hgh will likely be a waste of time and money. Shutting down your natural production for no good reason.

Word around the street is most of the High Tier Normies+ are staying natural until their bodies are fully developed for optimal Looksmaxxing.

TL;DR; You using HGH is cope.
 
Ah I see. You are a BP'd lookmaxxer being influenced by Clavicular. Should probably start with bone smashing and putting makeup on first to see where that gets you.

As far as your natty IGF-1:
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(I saw this shared by another user, which I think is very helpful, but I couldn't find his post)

You have some of the highest levels you will ever have right now and exogenous hgh will likely be a waste of time and money. Shutting down your natural production for no good reason.

Word around the street is most of the High Tier Normies+ are staying natural until their bodies are fully developed for optimal Looksmaxxing.

TL;DR; You using HGH is cope.
Ok bro XD
 
I think you may have fallen for TRT clinic marketing.

They love saying "being on testosterone improves mood and mental health" but that really only applies to guys with low hormone levels.

Your testosterone levels are fine and any standard GH dose would probably have your igf-1 levels lower than they are naturally because you are so young.

What does your workout plan look like?Drug/alcohol use? Nutrition/Macros? Body fat percentage?

If you want to hop on gear go for it - but you may realize after spending a bunch of money on drugs/blood work, stressing about sticking needles in your ass, dealing with PIP, growing man boobs, that the extra stress actually made your mental health worse.
 
Ah I see. You are a BP'd lookmaxxer being influenced by Clavicular. Should probably start with bone smashing and putting makeup on first to see where that gets you.

As far as your natty IGF-1:
View attachment 365012
(I saw this shared by another user, which I think is very helpful, but I couldn't find his post)

You have some of the highest levels you will ever have right now and exogenous hgh will likely be a waste of time and money. Shutting down your natural production for no good reason.

Word around the street is most of the High Tier Normies+ are staying natural until their bodies are fully developed for optimal Looksmaxxing.

TL;DR; You using HGH is cope.
So if I get a blood test done and my igf1 levels are within reference range, using exogenous gh will be useless outside of really high doses since it shuts down natural production? Is there really no solution to my small bones then ?
 
So if I get a blood test done and my igf1 levels are within reference range, using exogenous gh will be useless outside of really high doses since it shuts down natural production?

Yes

Is there really no solution to my small bones then ?

You can't really control bone growth sites.
What if your jaw starts growing in a weird direction?
Do you have money for surgery to fix it?
 
Yes



You can't really control bone growth sites.
What if your jaw starts growing in a weird direction?
Do you have money for surgery to fix it?
I kind of assumed I was deficient since I have small wrist/stature and my face is chubby. What type of igf1 levels would justify gh at my age do you think?
 
I kind of assumed I was deficient since I have small wrist/stature and my face is chubby. What type of igf1 levels would justify gh at my age do you think?
Get IGF-1 levels ...with z score. (Just make sure that is an option in the rest you picked... probably costs a little bit extra but whatever...I don't pay attention to cost when picking the test)

This will give you the exact answer.

As to time of day and such, I imagine factors will influence this...but I usually get lab work done fasted for 12 hours and about mid-day 1 pm-ish.

I'm sure that is not a 100% correct answer...but I definitely would not make the assumptions you are making.

You would be safer blasting Test than you would HGH...most of this post is my opinion but also probably correct. I don't know why I always feel compelled to respond to these "18 years old ....HGH is gonna fix my probs" posts.

I'm not mocking you. I just have zero clue where this info comes about HGH. It is incredibly subtle and is like the last seasoning added to the dish in a massive Thanksgiving feast.... you're only gonna notice it if everything else is just right...and definitely not gonna notice it quickly.

If your mental health is shit, start with talking to a (good?) counselor. Hell, start journaling....CBT....a lot of other choices to pursue that will only help in other areas of life AND help you make a better informed decision with regards to peptides and AAS.

You got good advice already (including the UPS store vs. USPS box advice). Good luck with what ever you choose.
 

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