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Should I back load my slin pins for my tb500 and bpc157 run?
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ironwill1951
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i order slin pins with changeable needles, draw with a 20 ga, and use whatever size you prefer to inject.
I will remember that for the next time. For now, I already have a box of 100 w/ permanently attached 29ga needles. That was the only style they had where I ordered them from.
I think I am going to back load them, it is going to be a little tedious as I need to do ~25 for the bpc157 but I like knowing that the needle is as sharp as it can be, and I wonder how the stopper will fare w/ 25 pokes in it.
I think I am going to back load them, it is going to be a little tedious as I need to do ~25 for the bpc157 but I like knowing that the needle is as sharp as it can be, and I wonder how the stopper will fare w/ 25 pokes in it.
ironwill1951
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draw out 3 cc at a time to fill your pinz
That's what I was thinking as well. I went to the local pharmacy and got a 3ml syringe for this purpose. I also wish I would have known that the BPC comes in such a small vial. It looks like at most I could put 3ml of bac water into it. Had I known, I'd have ordered a 10ml sterile vial so I could dilute it just a touch more. Not a big deal though.
Jay Munoz
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By backloading do you mean poping the back and filling them that way? If so NEVER do that, very easy to possibly contaminate and get infection
Yes, that is what I mean. I do agree that the risk of contamination is there, but back loading seems to be a common practice with insulin syringes. I don't plan on pulling the plunger and setting it down on my desk or anything. Either hold it in my fingers like a cigarette or place it down on a alcohol swab.
Jay Munoz
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In my opinion 100% not worth the risk. What about drawing and loading an IM pin same as normally, then replacing the tip with a 29g needle (I believe BD makes them), or if can't be located, 27g are common
That is a possibility, but I already have these pins and they are all I have. I understand what you're saying, and I appreciate the concern. But like I said, this seems to be a common thing. I've read quite a few threads of people doing this with hcg as well.
Also another concern is that I would be piercing the stopper over 20 times if I were to draw/switch or just draw/shoot w/ the insulin syringes that I have. I'd think that if it were a normal 10ml vial that has more area to stick the pin into, that it'd be ok, but these vials are very small and I'm not sure if poking it 20+ times if it would still seal properly.
Also another concern is that I would be piercing the stopper over 20 times if I were to draw/switch or just draw/shoot w/ the insulin syringes that I have. I'd think that if it were a normal 10ml vial that has more area to stick the pin into, that it'd be ok, but these vials are very small and I'm not sure if poking it 20+ times if it would still seal properly.
naturalkon
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The seal will be fine. Not saying it's the safest way but I backload for my peps cause I draw from two vials. With the seros I just draw and stick. No backload. If I'm only drawing from one vial it's dull but not too bad. Plus that shits expensive. Don't want to wast one drop
Right now I'm looking at two options.
1. since I am only using 1 peptide per pin, just draw/stick with the same needle. I don't really want to do this since it'll be "dull" and I want the easiest pin possible.
2. be "risky" and back load the pins like I originally planned. I'd load a weeks worth at a time doing it this way. I'm confident that even though there is an increased risk of contamination with this method, that as long as I pay attention and don't let the plunger of the pin I'm filling touch anything, I'll be safe.
I think that for me #2 is how I'm gonna go.
I'm just going to throw this question out there as well. Will there be any negative effects to storing a weeks worth of pre loaded syringes in the fridge, as opposed to back loading each one when it is time to inject? It won't degrade the peptide being outside of the vial will it? Maybe a stupid question but better safe than sorry.
Damn, I wish I could edit. I feel like I am being a post whore here lol.
Ok, I have changed my mind. I am going to do a shot tomorrow and see how draw/pin goes w/ the same needle. If I don't like it, I will back load but I won't do it in advance, I will load each pin when it comes time to do it.
Sorry for the rambling bros!
Ok, I have changed my mind. I am going to do a shot tomorrow and see how draw/pin goes w/ the same needle. If I don't like it, I will back load but I won't do it in advance, I will load each pin when it comes time to do it.
Sorry for the rambling bros!
naturalkon
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If your only using one pep I would just preload a bunch at a time. The only reason you wouldn't do that is if you had two and then you wouldn't want to keep them mixed.
No worries of the peptide degrading once it is outside the vial? Just curious since the syringe isn't air tight.
naturalkon
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Didn't think about that. I'm sure it would be fine. I haven't ever done it but I know there are a lot of guys who do it. Maybe just load a handful of syringes. Keep us updated on the bpc 157 run. I'm curious about it. Thinking about getting some for my girlfriend. She has a torn rotator cuff. Where did you get it from?
Maxim peptide.
I'll update how it goes. I don't have all that much pain from the injury right now so it'll be hard to say if the peptide was worth it for me or not. When I got hurt, I couldn't bench 35lb db's without a little pain. I took a week off lifting and did cardio and rehab work for that shoulder, and the following week I did 135 bench press and 45lb incline db's with minor discomfort so it is healing alright on it's own.
I do however have elbow tendinitis bothering me in my left arm, and my knees are always off and on with pain (noticeably worse in the fall/winter). I am hoping that the tb500 and or bpc could help with that as well.
I'll update how it goes. I don't have all that much pain from the injury right now so it'll be hard to say if the peptide was worth it for me or not. When I got hurt, I couldn't bench 35lb db's without a little pain. I took a week off lifting and did cardio and rehab work for that shoulder, and the following week I did 135 bench press and 45lb incline db's with minor discomfort so it is healing alright on it's own.
I do however have elbow tendinitis bothering me in my left arm, and my knees are always off and on with pain (noticeably worse in the fall/winter). I am hoping that the tb500 and or bpc could help with that as well.
naturalkon
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Are you doing site injections?
Negative. Both sub q. Tb500 rotating inject sites and bpc157 all injects will be in the "tricep" of the injured arm.
From what I've read, sub q is fine for both, as long as you inject the bpc157 close to where the injury is.
The main injury that I am using the bpc157 for is not actually a shoulder injury per se, I was told by the doctor/surgeon when I hurt it before that it is my coracobrachialis. Pain starts on inside of arm ~3/4 of the way to the armpit, and into the front delt/pec area. Actually if you type in "coracobrachialis starting strength" into google and look at the images, the first one that pops up shows where the pain is.
I am going to shoot the bpc sub q on the back side of the arm opposite where the pain is. mostly because that's a pretty tender area to do it on the inside of the arm, and there is no way in hell I'd actually be able to hit it IM anyway.
naturalkon
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Good luck man
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